Official Samsung UN75ES9000 Thread - Page 5

Does the 75" panel have any vertical banding issues ?

I am currently planning to upgrade my aging 65" plasma TV to a brand new larger LED TV and I have my choices narrow down to either the Samsung 75" ES900 or the Sharp 80" LC80LE940X. Both are 3D capable TVs and basic specs are similar though the Samsung have more secondary features ( internet connectivity skype/youtube, build in browser, multimedia streaming etc.. but not that important to me,picture quality is number one ). At first glance, the picture on the Samsung looks better, perhaps due to the perceived higher resolution but the Sharp looks more cinematic ( yes, the extra 5" makes a difference especially when viewed from a distance ). Looks wise the Samsung is definitely slimmer and nicer. The Sharp is available for a slightly lower price but as expected of these giant TVs, both will still cost a fortune.

I will appreciate any inputs from owners of both TVs to help me with my decision. Thanks.

badboi - did you get your UN75ES9000 calibrated? would you be kind enough to tell me your settings? would be very appreciated.

Hi guys,

I am a owner of this great tv set from germany and I have a question to the owners. I have the set now for 2 ½ weeks.

First of all, I came from a 64” D Series Plasma and I really like the PQ of the 75inch. Even if you look in a dark room. The local dimming does a great job.

But I suffer from this problem:

If you divide the picture in 3 parts: Left, middle and right; In my set the picture in the middle is a little bit “darker” than left or right.

This is visible when it comes to movement from left to right and right to left when bright col-ours are involved (esp. tones of grey, blue and green). In this situation you can see a kind of “Line” or “cloud” from top to the middle in the right part of the screen. When there’s no movement, you can see nothing of this.

In 3D I can see nothing of this. And in my opinion the effect became less according to panel usage?! But I can be wrong.

Has anyone of the owners in this forum the same “problems” with his set? Can there anything done to avoid or minimize the effect? Or: Do you know what I mean and do you also see this?

My settings:

Mode: Film
Backlight: 7
Contrast: 80
Brightness: 45
Sharpness: 20
Colour: 45

All other settings: “off”, except Smart LED “standard” and Cinema Black “on”. If you change the settings of the dimming to “off”, this has no effect to the described “effect”.

It is no banding (I think so), because the uniformity of the backlight with still test pictures is really great.

Thanks for your answers.

I saw the UN75ES9000 yesterday, right next to an 70 inch Elite at Best Buy.

Both were playing The Avengers Blu-ray, I was suprised-

Side-by-side I actually like the Samsung's Picture Quality better.

This was in a bright room with both HDTV's store settings.

Hi Olli,

My first post here. Just got mine a few days back nad still playing around with setting et all.

However I have not seen the effect you describe. It did some funny things and had to change the HDMI cable. After that no problem.

Not sure if swithing all settings to off is the best alternative or may have something to do. I get good quality overall, but think it can get better with correct settings. Hoping people here share these and specially if pro calibrated.

Motion plus or even motion control is bad with movies. Makes them look like tv shows. With sports and regular TV work s very good though. So I use to different settings for movies HD and the rest.

Not sure how to help you. Screen seems to get better whith some use. Try also turning of all saving energy features and see if that helps.

Also check for firmware upgrades...

If I see something else will let you know.

Hi Eelii08,

thanks for your answer.

Due to your answer, I disconnected all cables. Only Sat-Cable left. But the Problem remains.

All energy saving functions are “off”. For the german model (till now) no FW upgrades are available.

Yesterday evening the described effect was more visible than the evenings before.

Best visible for example when watching European Soccer (Football) on green grass as background. Then there is a vertical “line” which seperates the right part of the screen which is “lighter” than the middle part of the screen, which is darker.

Don`t know what to do. Called the service. They are looking for it next Thursday.

I surely dont get those when watching footbal. In HD is very very good, although these days only UK games going on they look fantastic.

I do see large differences between channels depending on the quality of the signal and the program. If you get those in all channels and also sources, like BD, have it checked.

You could restore original settings and see if they remain. To be sure it has nothing to do with the configuration. If the effect gets better or worse on different moments, it may habe to do with signal...

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They look fantastic. Alxmero. What ssettings are you using?

I took pictures of this tv at Best Buy. I haven't personally bought one yet.

I have been searching the web for a while now, before actually buying this set, and after to look for settings advise or suggestions.

As people mentioned, it is estrange that there are no real hands on reviews out there other than the one at Trusted Reviews. Which gives the TV a recommended and 9/10 score. Also gives good hints on some of the settings.

Other than this one, the rest are just previews that don't go into any details from real tests, or plainly copy paste from samsung web page articles.

Unless I am missing anyone out there, but if so it is surely hard to find.

Performance wise, so far I am quite happy. Coming from a 6090H Kuro. The blacks are not quite the same with the Samsung, although they are not bad at all, and in some cases much better than I actually expected (maybe my expectations were too low at this...). In other areas like detail, definition and others, in normal lighting scenes, it is better. And the extra 15 inches show off. The downside of those extra 15 inches in my case is with SD TV channels. THe quality there is quite bad. I guess too big of a screen for SD low quality broadcasting. With HD channels it is excellent though.

Coming back to blacks, the only thing I would like to see improved is when you get an all black screen, with some white or very light text in the middle. Like when the credits at the end of a movie. You can see how the black at the screen gets lighter whenever the text starts flowing. I guess this can be fixed, or at least to some extend bringing the backlight to a lower setting like 7 or 8 that some people here are suggesting. Nothing too dramatic, but the Kuro didn't do it. And you really have to look for it. I haven't noticed this in normal viewing of dark scenes most of the times. I have to try with the backlight at a lower level as suggested and see how it helps solve this.

One ting that is good in this regard though, is when there is a change is scenes or similar and the screen goes all black for a couple of secs. In these cases it really seems the TV has gone off. I think it actually does, since the back there is... black, period.

So overall I am quite happy.

The panel also seems to improve slightly as time on it passes.

We will see.

Isn't this the same TV as the ES8000 series, only with a larger screen and a two extra features that were in the D8000 series? Oh, and of course it's triple the price of the ES8000 series 65" screen. Not trolling here, just asking based on the research I've done on this one. Can't see why I"d buy this for 10 grand when I could get the 65" version for 3500 (or the Panny 65VT50 for 3 grand - even better )

I dont know if it is the same or not. Thankfully you don't have to buy it if you dont want. It is, mostly, a free world.

Considering the low activity of this thread, many others probably think like you. Me, as an owner would love to see more feedback and info from other users / owners of the set, sprecialy on pic settings.

When I was Abt the other day, the salesperson told me that Samsung has officially fixed the clouding issues on this set, and that the newest runs are problem free. Can anyone confirm this?

I don't know about any "fix" for this problem. Why? Because the set I purchased nearly two months ago has NEVER exhibited problems with clouding.

I know this set doesn't come cheap. However, I don't believe I've ever made a more satisfying electronics purchase than the 75ES9000, and I've bought way more TV's in my past than most.

In my opinion, this set gives the best picture of any 65in+ on the market. The problem is, it doesn't run cheap!

Same here. Mine did not have clouding either.

There is a new firmware version available in the tv menu. i am downloading now. Habe not seen a list of improvements or whta it does.

Do these suffer from the same vertical banding issues as the 65ES8000?

Congratulations to the owners of this magnificent TV.
I wonder if you keep the depth of blacks by changing the viewing angle.

Thanks and sorry for my bad inglish.

I have never witnessed vertical banding on my set.

I just recently bought this TV (and replacing my months old 64E8000 plasma) after reading three tests in swedish magazines, which of two are considered as professional.

This TV came out with absolute top scores with regards to almost everything but especially the pic-quality. They conclude the test with stating that the picture quality is definitely on par with the plasmas Sammy 64e8000 and the Pana 65VT50 and way better than the LED ES8000 series etc. However the picture is dependent on how you sit as the contrast washes out a bit when you see the screen from an off-angle, whereas the plasmas are not sensitive to that.

I find the picture tremendous after adjusting the movie mode and turning of all stuff except for smartLED and cinema-black functions. I also decreased the backlight to 9-12 and the sharpness a bit and the picture came out very stable, close to a plasma in character.

Why does this dude from cnet say that the F8000 series only goes up to 65 inches?

http://cnettv.cnet.com/samsung-microdimming-f8000-led/9742-1_53-50138439.html

I'm hoping he is mistaken.

Another review btw:
http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/article/exclusive-samsung-ue75es9000-review/13556

and from the swedish site...:
http://m3.idg.se/2.1022/1.477500/samsung-ue75es9005-koloss-pa-besok

Thanks for the link! So then it's safe to assume that the UE75F8000 will be officially replacing the UN75es9000?

I'm not entirely sure, but I believe it would be the successor to the current 8000 series, not the 9000 series.

It should be interesting to see if a new 75 in. 9000 series is announced and what differences there may be.

That's the way Samsung is marketing them. What's interesting, however, is if you look at the specs and the overall design of the new F8000's, they seem closer related to the 9000 series, not the 8000 series. They appear to offer the same advanced micro dimming as the 9000, and they even have a similar gold toned bezel. In fact, I'm hard pressed to come up with any feature that the current 75 incher has that the new F8000's don't. If this is the case, the UE75F8000 will surely make the UN75ES9000 obsolete.