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I was able to "attend" the Samsung presentation event via skype at Video and Audio Center in Santa Monica, CA.
Being in Los Angeles on 8/17, I went to the store to look at their display model. The off angle viewing seemed fine. Unfortunately my salesperson did not know as much as I did about this model.
2D movie "Hugo" was the blu ray showing. The PQ was the best I have ever seen.. It was hard to discern black levels, because the set was not in a low light level environment. SD channels on Direct t.v. looked perfectly acceptable.
I purchased it from Amazon.com a few days ago.

Nice to hear Remlee. Sounds like you'll get your ES9000 before I do. Please let us know how it looks in your house and post any pictures of that sexy beast smile.gif Congrats!
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Hey Guys. I called the freight company handling the shipping of my Samsung UN75ES9000 this morning. They told me I would get a call later today to setup delivery for Wdnesday or Thursday. I told the lady I was speaking with that I will be out of town starting tomorrow morning until late Friday night and I would hate to have to wait until next Monday. She called one of the drivers and they are going to deliver today between 8 am and 12 pm!!!!!

I'm so excited. But nervous at the same time. So many things can go wrong with delivery, and not to mention what problems I might see with this $9,000 tv. I will post some pictures and early impressions to let everyone know how this compares with the ES8000. I owned both the 60" and 65" of the ES8000 before taking them back for this lovely beast. I will not throw out accusations such as best tv I've ever seen or amazing black levels better than the elite or vt50. At least not until I've had a week or two to mess with it smile.gif
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I eagerly await your review!
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Originally Posted by wingnut4772 View Post

I eagerly await your review!

Thanks. You and me both smile.gif I'll make sure to post plenty of pics and be happy to test or answer any questions people have for this tv. I hate that I'll only have this afternoon and evening to mess with it before I go out of town for a couple nights.
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Well?!
post #36 of 309
Thread Starter 
Hey JewDaddy: How is the ES9000 treating you?

I get mine tomorrow.
post #37 of 309
hi new owners,

do you plan to calibrate your UN75ES9000 ?
Would you attach calibration results? pls.
It'd be nice to know min and max for contrast, also 5 points (corners and center) readings.

Am I asking too much?

tnx ;-)
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Hey JewDaddy: How is the ES9000 treating you?
I get mine tomorrow.

Hey Remlee. So I've had all weekend to really mess with the ES9000 and after debating with my wife and with myself, I'm having the tv picked up tomorrow and returned for a refund. I'm not doing this because I think the picture is by any means bad, I just can't sleep at night knowing I paid $9,000 for a tv that I can basically get the same in 65" for $3,499.. I don't want to rain on your parade and I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts but for me personally, this tv is nowhere near worth the asking price.

Im not going to start a Samsung bashing or go on a angry tirade. My main issue with this tv is that it's basically the ES8000 with two features from the D8000 added back in. Doesn't make sense at all and I believe that calling this tv a 9000 series as opposed to an 8000 is a marketing scam. This tv had no superior processing other than bringing Cinema Black and Smart LED back into the menu. Again, two features that were found in last years D8000. I see no difference in picture quality from either tv other than increased brightness and slightly increased black levels due to Cinema Black turning off the LEDs behind the letterbox bars.

I guess it's my fault for buying into all the hype and not viewing it in person first. I just can't justify this price. However, the black levels are very good, and I've yet to see any flashlighting, clouding or banding that I saw on both the D8000 and ES8000. At least I can say the quality control on this tv seems much better than the other Models. I just think its crazy that there's no superior picture options or improvements. Motion handling is the same and just as bad as the other samsungs, same with lag input. I don't understand how they can call this a superior tv than the ES8000 by bringing back two features from last years model that they intentionally left out of the ES8000. Also, I'm not sure if its due to increased brightness or size but the 3D has much more crosstalk than the ES8000. Just very disappointed.

Anyways, I'm not trying to cause trouble, just wanted to give my honest opinion. Good luck!
post #39 of 309
Don't blame you - $9000 is a LOT of money to pay for something that will be superseded in a couple of years.
post #40 of 309
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Hey Remlee. So I've had all weekend to really mess with the ES9000 and after debating with my wife and with myself, I'm having the tv picked up tomorrow and returned for a refund. I'm not doing this because I think the picture is by any means bad, I just can't sleep at night knowing I paid $9,000 for a tv that I can basically get the same in 65" for $3,499.. I don't want to rain on your parade and I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts but for me personally, this tv is nowhere near worth the asking price.
Im not going to start a Samsung bashing or go on a angry tirade. My main issue with this tv is that it's basically the ES8000 with two features from the D8000 added back in. Doesn't make sense at all and I believe that calling this tv a 9000 series as opposed to an 8000 is a marketing scam. This tv had no superior processing other than bringing Cinema Black and Smart LED back into the menu. Again, two features that were found in last years D8000. I see no difference in picture quality from either tv other than increased brightness and slightly increased black levels due to Cinema Black turning off the LEDs behind the letterbox bars.
I guess it's my fault for buying into all the hype and not viewing it in person first. I just can't justify this price. However, the black levels are very good, and I've yet to see any flashlighting, clouding or banding that I saw on both the D8000 and ES8000. At least I can say the quality control on this tv seems much better than the other Models. I just think its crazy that there's no superior picture options or improvements. Motion handling is the same and just as bad as the other samsungs, same with lag input. I don't understand how they can call this a superior tv than the ES8000 by bringing back two features from last years model that they intentionally left out of the ES8000. Also, I'm not sure if its due to increased brightness or size but the 3D has much more crosstalk than the ES8000. Just very disappointed.
Anyways, I'm not trying to cause trouble, just wanted to give my honest opinion. Good luck!

So what's next? Back to the 8000?
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Originally Posted by JewDaddy View Post

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Hey Remlee. So I've had all weekend to really mess with the ES9000 and after debating with my wife and with myself, I'm having the tv picked up tomorrow and returned for a refund. I'm not doing this because I think the picture is by any means bad, I just can't sleep at night knowing I paid $9,000 for a tv that I can basically get the same in 65" for $3,499.. I don't want to rain on your parade and I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts but for me personally, this tv is nowhere near worth the asking price.
Im not going to start a Samsung bashing or go on a angry tirade. My main issue with this tv is that it's basically the ES8000 with two features from the D8000 added back in. Doesn't make sense at all and I believe that calling this tv a 9000 series as opposed to an 8000 is a marketing scam. This tv had no superior processing other than bringing Cinema Black and Smart LED back into the menu. Again, two features that were found in last years D8000. I see no difference in picture quality from either tv other than increased brightness and slightly increased black levels due to Cinema Black turning off the LEDs behind the letterbox bars.
I guess it's my fault for buying into all the hype and not viewing it in person first. I just can't justify this price. However, the black levels are very good, and I've yet to see any flashlighting, clouding or banding that I saw on both the D8000 and ES8000. At least I can say the quality control on this tv seems much better than the other Models. I just think its crazy that there's no superior picture options or improvements. Motion handling is the same and just as bad as the other samsungs, same with lag input. I don't understand how they can call this a superior tv than the ES8000 by bringing back two features from last years model that they intentionally left out of the ES8000. Also, I'm not sure if its due to increased brightness or size but the 3D has much more crosstalk than the ES8000. Just very disappointed.
Anyways, I'm not trying to cause trouble, just wanted to give my honest opinion. Good luck!

yup, typical Samsung switch and bait if you will. just like when they stole some proprietary stuff back when they produced the 8500 and now with Apple.
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Originally Posted by Op's Guy View Post

So what's next? Back to the 8000?

Not sure Op's. I'm thinking about the 70" Sharp Elite. But, I'm hearing alot of talk about the new Sony 65HX950 and on top of that, people are saying that a new Elite might be announced shortly. So for now, looks like my trusty Samsung 61" DLP is coming back up to the mancave. My wife is not looking forward to moving it back upstairs again. Lol.
post #43 of 309
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Originally Posted by JewDaddy View Post

Not sure Op's. I'm thinking about the 70" Sharp Elite. But, I'm hearing alot of talk about the new Sony 65HX950 and on top of that, people are saying that a new Elite might be announced shortly. So for now, looks like my trusty Samsung 61" DLP is coming back up to the mancave. My wife is not looking forward to moving it back upstairs again. Lol.

Well best of luck with the next adventure.

Going to watch the new panel for the next couple weeks. So far it looks really good. Samsung is giving the option of either a replacement set or a refund due a flaw in the new panel under the top layer. Can only be seen seen while the set is off. Tech still said Samsung will want to do one or the other. Stay tuned.
Edited by Op's Guy - 9/10/12 at 8:13pm
post #44 of 309
I can only imagine they wont be selling a lot of these unless that price is HIGHLY discount from MSRP...like 50% off

First off

why is this TV not a full array?

Next...you have Tv's like the new Panny VT 50 that would probably embarrass this TV...granted on 65"....but its 1/3 of the price

I would rather save 4-5K and upgrade my sound system


Warren
post #45 of 309
Thread Starter 
My ES9000 was delivered yesterday. My Home Theater guru set it up and told me that it had the best black levels he had ever seen in a LED tv.

So far the pq is extraordinary. The off angle viewing was fine, much better than my 70 inch LCOS JVC with 2006 technology. I put the OPPO 93 on the set and tried the movie Hugo in 3D and 5.1. It was breathtaking.

Hand gestures work fine. Still learning about this baby.
Edited by remlee - 9/12/12 at 3:40pm
post #46 of 309
Saw this set at Magnolia today. I have no idea what the hell they were playing. Looked like some sort of animated promo in TORCH mode and looked awful.I didn't bother to ask for remote and to see something else. Will pop in again.

I will say the bezel looks nice in a subtle color of gold but I do prefer the gun metal of my Elite. It's a metal matte bezel and looks great to me.

I will also say that 75 inches is just great. You would not think a jump from 65 to 70 or 70 to 75 is significant but it is. Putting the crappy demo aside the set is very very nice looking.

I think they should have put all the feature crap aside and not introduced a set of this calibar as edge lit. There is no way it can compete with local dimming sets.

Maybe Samsung is winning the race with useless apps and this hand motion crap but what a shame. Most people spending this kind of money will use a universal remote with their audio system. There is no need to touch the screen, flap your arms like a bird or talk to it.

Great looking set from a design standpoint. Great at 75 inches. That demo material in torch ugh. Need to go back again.

Rick
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Originally Posted by Mr.SoftDome View Post

Saw this set at Magnolia today.

Rick

What Magnolia store? Please.
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Originally Posted by mikek753 View Post

What Magnolia store? Please.

Almaden Road off 85 in San Jose, CA.
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Originally Posted by Mr.SoftDome View Post

Almaden Road off 85 in San Jose, CA.

The Magnolia is in Best Buy.

Best Buy
5065 Almaden Expressway
San Jose, CA 95118

408.979.1591
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What Magnolia store? Please.

Not sure where you live but there's also a Magnolia Store here in Atlanta that has it on display.

It's funny because when I talked with the sales people in the Magnolia room, even though the Samsung is more expensive, they still said the Elite blows the picture out of the water. Maybe there's a bigger profit margin involved with the Elite but either way, they're definitely pushing the Elite over the Sammy. Like I said in my previous posts, I didn't send back the tv because I thought the picture quality was bad by any means, it was just the price. Samsung should not be able to charge that much money for an Edge lit set. They can call it Micro Dimming or whatever the crap they want to but it's not full array and they just added two features back from last year's D8000. If the tv was $5,500 - $6,000, I might consider it again, but no way at $9,000.
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Originally Posted by Mr.SoftDome View Post

Almaden Road off 85 in San Jose, CA.

thanks, I'll come by to see in person ;-) at this BB store
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Originally Posted by JewDaddy View Post

Like I said in my previous posts, I didn't send back the tv because I thought the picture quality was bad by any means, it was just the price. Samsung should not be able to charge that much money for an Edge lit set. They can call it Micro Dimming or whatever the crap they want to but it's not full array and they just added two features back from last year's D8000. If the tv was $5,500 - $6,000, I might consider it again, but no way at $9,000.

Didn't you buy the ES9000 at $9000.00 knowing it was edge lit? Why didn't you just wait a couple weeks to view it in the store first?

Sony is asking $25,000 for an edge lit tv. Sure, it's 4k, but it's also edge lit. Makes you wonder about edge lit vs full array/local dimming. Sony could have made the 84" full array local dimming. What ever amount it would have cost to do that, would be a small amount when added to $25,000.
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Originally Posted by bekindrewind View Post

Didn't you buy the ES9000 at $9000.00 knowing it was edge lit? Why didn't you just wait a couple weeks to view it in the store first?
Sony is asking $25,000 for an edge lit tv. Sure, it's 4k, but it's also edge lit. Makes you wonder about edge lit vs full array/local dimming. Sony could have made the 84" full array local dimming. What ever amount it would have cost to do that, would be a small amount when added to $25,000.

Very true. I bought into all the hype I read on the Internet. I was floored when I got the tv, set it up, and then went into the menu only to notice two differences in the picture menu. And then to see that the two picture options added back in were originally in the D8000....... I felt jipped at that point. I was expecting more for $9,000. But at the end of the day, I only have myself to blame for buying it without seeing it first. Again, that's my impatience kicking in.
post #54 of 309
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Originally Posted by JewDaddy View Post

Very true. I bought into all the hype I read on the Internet. I was floored when I got the tv, set it up, and then went into the menu only to notice two differences in the picture menu. And then to see that the two picture options added back in were originally in the D8000....... I felt jipped at that point. I was expecting more for $9,000. But at the end of the day, I only have myself to blame for buying it without seeing it first. Again, that's my impatience kicking in.

I hear ya my brother. We want something so bad and buy into the hype.
I was hoping that Sony would come out with a 75 or 80 inch 1080p XBR this year. That didn't happen, but they say the 65HX950 is better than the 929. Of course they say that. They're not going to say last years 929 is just as good as this years 950...
I'm also hoping that Elite v2 will come out with an 80" or 70" that has fixed the color and pulsing issues. Currently my hopes are that. We are running out of good displays to choose from.
Edited by bekindrewind - 9/24/12 at 10:52pm
post #55 of 309
yes, I went in BB to see by myself
it's good looking overall set.
However, it's on a stand facing store, while lights against it.
No, I was not able to see how black is black, nether uniformity.
Picture was over sharpened while unreal vivid.
Yes, I agree about torch mode.
This is puzzled me as I don't know how to check for this set without proper lighting and calibration sensor or test patterns.
and it's $9k
post #56 of 309
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Originally Posted by bekindrewind View Post

I hear ya my brother. We want something so bad and buy into the hype.
I was hoping that Sony would come out with a 75 or 80 inch 1080p XBR this year. That didn't happen, but they say the 65HX950 is better than the 929. Of course they say that. They're not going to say last years 929 is not as good as this years 950...
I'm also hoping that Elite v2 will come out with an 80" or 70" that has fixed the color and pulsing issues. Currently my hopes are that. We are running out of good displays to choose from.

I know this will sound silly but the main reason I'm probably going with the current Sharp Elite over the upcoming Sony 65HX950 (other than my lack of patience) is to get the most screen size I possibly can. It's a shame that Sony didn't want to compete with Samsung's 75" this year and show them up at an even lower price smile.gif

Part of me wants to wait and see if Sharp announces a 2nd generation of Elite's but at the same time, I don't think I could wait that long. I would have enough trouble trying to wait until the end of October for the HX950.

And let me just say this again in case I was unclear in my previous post. The reason for my return of the 75ES9000 was not due at all to a bad or even lackluster picture. My main issue was the picture not matching the high price. What I mean by that is this tv produces an almost identical picture that the ES8000 does. It does acheive deeper blacks and brighter picture. But it's due to Samsung bringing back two picture features or options, not sure what to call it, from last years D8000. Cinema Black and Smart LED. There are two things wrong with this. The first being that everyone who bought the ES8000 got jipped by Samsung. They intentionally left this out so they could justify jacking up the price of the ES9000. My second and biggest complaint is that this $9,000 tv has no superior processing from the last two D and ES series TV's. I mean c'mon Samsung. Give people who shelled out this much money something superior and exclusive to this TV instead of bringing something back from last years model. I was certain that when I went into the picture menu I would see some new processing features.

Now, after saying all this. Like I said before. At the end of the day, it's my fault for spending this much and buying into the hype. I have no doubt that this tv will keep other buyers happy for years to come. I hope everyone who purchases this TV enjoys it. Good Luck!!!!

Edit: Wanted to add one more thing about the ES9000. Samsung did an amazing job of quality control as opposed to the other series TV's i've dealt with. I saw no flashlighting, clouding or banding while watching this set. Too bad they can't give the same kind of love and attention to the other series. It seems like with both the D8000 and ES8000 buyers were having to play the panel lottery on finding one that didn't have a ton of issues.
Edited by JewDaddy - 9/13/12 at 6:05am
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Btw, I never posted pictures like I promised I would. Enjoy smile.gif Please note that I took these pics with my IPhone 4S Camera phone, so they don't do it justice.

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post #58 of 309
I wonder how this set compares with the Sharps 80 - 90?
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Originally Posted by dhan View Post

I wonder how this set compares with the Sharps 80 - 90?

Blows them away in picture quality unless your talking about the Elite. In saying that, the Samsung in my opinion is still not worth the $9000 price tag. At least not when you can get the same Samsung in 65 inch for $3,499. But, if you have the money to blow, go for it!
post #60 of 309
Looking forward to see this TV first hand but I don't know where to find one up here in Quebec/Canada. I have my home made bluray demo disc up and ready to audition any upcoming HDTV!wink.gif I have no intention to buy this set at current price but I'm still curious to see its PQ so that I can at least save it in memory as a reference for comparaison purposes with other sets like the 90 Sharp that I auditionned in a store. At 5k or 6k with a very good picture I'd be tempted but not a 9k....
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