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post #511 of 799
LOL wipeout beating the Olympics:

People rather watch nobodies failing at made up "sport" than the best athletes in the world succeed/fail at known sports

At least you can't know the result of Wipeout Vs. Olympics..

I'm still a stubborn guy that prefers to watch live events LIVE, lucky for me I can being in the U.S. border..
post #512 of 799
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

LOL wipeout beating the Olympics:
People rather watch nobodies failing at made up "sport" than the best athletes in the world succeed/fail at known sports
At least you can't know the result of Wipeout Vs. Olympics..
I'm still a stubborn guy that prefers to watch live events LIVE, lucky for me I can being in the U.S. border..

Wipeout didnt beat the olympics ?

Olympics 6.8
Wipeout 1.7
post #513 of 799
CTV is showing the Dream Team basketball semi-final live. They are not using their own announcers for this one -- they are picking up a feed from the NBC Sports Network (formerly Versus), NBC logos and all.
post #514 of 799
If you want to watch how to do Olympics presentation - BBC Three/BBC HD at the moment is a textbook lesson.

Bouncing between live action at various events, and some fast turnaround highlights, just at the right point - and a fantastically confident and fluent presenter (aka anchor) in an open-air studio (Jake Humphrey - who also anchors the BBC F1 coverage) with a huge crowd standing outside cheering.

Proper event TV, live, atmospheric and slick as hell. Very proud of the BBC over the last fortnight. There have been some excellent judgement calls - and doing this live is a LOT more difficult than doing it in an edit.

(Looking at the #nbcfail twitter stream - quite a few people appear to be watching the BBC's coverage...)
Edited by sneals2000 - 8/10/12 at 3:15pm
post #515 of 799
I like "The BBC Song" by austin powers.

Of course hottie susanna hoffs being in the video doesnt hurt either. biggrin.gif
post #516 of 799
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Originally Posted by dcowboy7 View Post

I like "The BBC Song" by austin powers.
Of course hottie susanna hoffs being in the video doesnt hurt either. biggrin.gif

Strangely prescient song that... (But then Mike Myers did the standup circuit in the UK for a while, with comedy partner Neil Mullarkey...)
post #517 of 799
WTF, who the *$+ NBC thinks it is, just because they've sunk $1 billion into these London Games, they believe they can do whatever they want with their airtime. Case in point, 4 minutes into tonight's prime-time pre-packaged show Costas sends his audience to a "short film" about the 1996 Dream Team. I know why you're doing it. Not exactly what I want to see at the moment -- perhaps another day another time, BUT NOT TONIGHT. Clicking over to CTV.

Totally agree with Sneals about live telecasts without editing. Watched 2 hours straight of Track and Field (Athletics), a whole bunch of events live on CTV this afternoon. Thrilling television.
post #518 of 799
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post #519 of 799
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

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And NASA only have their delay because of the laws of physics. NBC have fibre with probably less than half a second of delay...
post #520 of 799
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Originally Posted by sneals2000 View Post

And NASA only have their delay because of the laws of physics. NBC have fibre with probably less than half a second of delay...
Yeah, and it just makes me sick to think they're going to do the same damn thing with the Rio games.
post #521 of 799
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Originally Posted by JCL View Post

Totally agree with Sneals about live telecasts without editing. Watched 2 hours straight of Track and Field (Athletics), a whole bunch of events live on CTV this afternoon. Thrilling television.

Live TV like the Olympics requires editorial judgement - and if you are producing the 'main channel' which has to deliver the best events to the largest audience, you have to have people who have strong decision making skills and experience. You have to know when to join, when to leave, when to show live and when to turn round. It's a lot easier to do that with recorded content. Doing it live is a real challenge. Capturing the feeling of event, understanding that people around the country - indeed around the world - are sharing in a moment, live, is key.

You need to signpost your other outlets, accepting that what you are showing may not be what everyone wants to watch, and let them know how they can watch what they DO want to watch. Above all you need to trust and respect your audience.

Finally - one of the best rules of thumb I've heard in TV production in the UK recently has been 'Never assume knowledge, always assume intelligence' in your audience.
post #522 of 799
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Originally Posted by sneals2000 View Post


Finally - one of the best rules of thumb I've heard in TV production in the UK recently has been 'Never assume knowledge, always assume intelligence' in your audience.
Which is basically the exact opposite philosophy used by TV networks in the US.

Sports needs to be watched live, otherwise it's just history like anything else that may have happened during the day. The problem with NBC's coverage, as already noted here in this thread and in previous Olympics discussions, is that NBC treats the Games as entertainment, not as sporting events.
post #523 of 799
If NBC ever gets the Superbowl they would probably tape delay that event. Watching Little League right now on ESPN and it's live!
post #524 of 799
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Originally Posted by Nimo View Post

If NBC ever gets the Superbowl they would probably tape delay that event. Watching Little League right now on ESPN and it's live!
They had it this year, live...
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post #526 of 799
Thread Starter 
Another NBC show is getting a preview soon.
Their copy of Modern Family is airing later tonight during the Olympics coverage.
It's not actually listed in the program guide.
post #527 of 799
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Originally Posted by Nimo View Post

If NBC ever gets the Superbowl they would probably tape delay that event. Watching Little League right now on ESPN and it's live!

the NFL will let them do that.
post #528 of 799
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Originally Posted by Nimo View Post

If NBC ever gets the Superbowl they would probably tape delay that event. Watching Little League right now on ESPN and it's live!

Rah Petaluma!
post #529 of 799
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Originally Posted by sneals2000 View Post

You need to signpost your other outlets, accepting that what you are showing may not be what everyone wants to watch, and let them know how they can watch what they DO want to watch. Above all you need to trust and respect your audience.

CTV and the other networks in the Canadian consortium do this very well. They would pop up a graphic on the lower-third to tell viewers where to catch other events. If all the other channels are "occuplied", they also have the option of streaming it live on www.ctvolympics.ca -- some of these are "World Feeds" (without commentaries).
post #530 of 799
Too funny, NBC asked to shut the heck up while competition was taking place.
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Boxing: NBC asked to cease ringside commentary

Reuters - By Padraic Halpin | Reuters – 6 hours ago

LONDON (Reuters) - Olympic boxing's governing body said it had asked London Games' organizers to tell American broadcaster NBC to cease its ringside commentary at the boxing arena on Friday because they were disrupting officials.

NBC, a unit of Comcast Corp, was the only broadcaster allowed to commentate from the ringside floor and the International Boxing Association (AIBA) said they disturbed officials sitting next to them throughout the competition.

It recommended to the London organizing committee (LOCOG) that NBC's commentary team leave their position. They were offered a space with the other media but decided to leave instead, AIBA said.

"NBC commentators were offered a booth in the media tribune like other broadcasters because they were very disturbing for AIBA officials - even during bouts they were not broadcasting - being located at the edge of the Field of Play," an AIBA spokesman said in an emailed statement to Reuters.

"They claimed that since no boxers from the USA were still in the running, they didn't want to stay anyway."

NBC could not immediately be reached for comment.

AIBA said NBC cameramen were still recording footage at the arena and that the fights would be commentated on from New York.

NBC has paid $4.4 billion for the U.S. rights to the next four Olympics through 2020 and has attracted big audiences to tune in for the London Games by tape-delaying marquee events to air in the evening, maximizing viewers and advertising dollars.

NBC Sports Group Chairman Mark Lazarus said last week that the London Games' tape-delayed prime-time ratings had topped the live prime-time ratings for the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

Lazarus said NBC, which at one point stood to lose $200 million on the event, had a small chance of making "a little bit of money" because of the strong ratings performance.

However he was also forced to give an impassioned defense of the network's coverage on a conference call, conceding that some of the criticism leveled at the network had been "fair".

A small, but vocal contingent of critics have stormed Twitter, Facebook and other social media, decrying the network's tape-delayed broadcasts, technical glitches with online streaming, heavy promotions and even its cast of commentators.

U.S. media have also reported ringside comments from one of NBC's boxing commentators, trainer Teddy Atlas, who was highly critical at the officiating of the London Games.

America's women boxers picked up two medals on Thursday, one a gold, but its men had their worst performance at an Olympic Games, failing to win a medal for the first time.

(Reporting by Padraic Halpin; Editing by Alison Williams)

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing-nbc-asked-cease-ringside-commentary-224709661--finance.html
post #531 of 799
Even funnier, this piece from the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/11/arts/television/columbo-approach-to-nbcs-late-night-olympics-coverage.html?_r=1&hp

Please read the whole piece (if you're not a subscriber, you can still read this as one of your 20 free articles for the month)

Excerpts:

So those of you who are still trying to avoid hearing real-time Olympic results need to focus on what made “Columbo” so enjoyable. It was the little things — all those delightful tics Falk put into the character — and the comfort of not having to figure out who done it.

“Columbo” was relaxation television, which, frankly, we could use more of in prime time, choked as it is with frenetic reality shows and densely plotted dramas. And that’s how to consume after-the-fact Olympic coverage: as comfort food, not as a stress-inducing, thrill-of-victory-agony-of-defeat double espresso.

It’s liberating to watch all these obscure sports and not feel as if you had to take a crash course in how they’re played so that you can try to gauge who’s going to win. Is 12.94 a good time in the 110-meter hurdles or a bad score in the men’s high bar? Does water polo involve any actual strategy, or is it just a bunch of guys or gals goofing around in a pool? Is there really any appreciable difference between one pair of synchronized divers and another? Don’t care; already know who won. Just going to sit here and admire the impossibly fit bodies and be glad I don’t have to wear that ridiculous pool headgear.

With foreknowledge of the results, you can even make adjustments to suit your personal anxiety-tolerance level. Don’t want to see Gabby Douglas’s excruciating fall? Turns out a balance beam routine lasts exactly as long as it takes to go to the kitchen and get some ice cream.
post #532 of 799
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

nbctimewarp.jpg

If you aired that graphic on NBC, I think the producers would insist that you make it clear that those distances are not represented to scale - before they segue into the 23 minute segment about the American athlete that finished 17th in the Pole Vault that entered the sport because he dreamed of going to Mars when he was in 3rd grade.
post #533 of 799
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Originally Posted by JCL View Post

Even funnier, this piece from the New York Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/11/arts/television/columbo-approach-to-nbcs-late-night-olympics-coverage.html?_r=1&hp
Please read the whole piece (if you're not a subscriber, you can still read this as one of your 20 free articles for the month)
Excerpts:
So those of you who are still trying to avoid hearing real-time Olympic results need to focus on what made “Columbo” so enjoyable. It was the little things — all those delightful tics Falk put into the character — and the comfort of not having to figure out who done it.
“Columbo” was relaxation television, which, frankly, we could use more of in prime time, choked as it is with frenetic reality shows and densely plotted dramas. And that’s how to consume after-the-fact Olympic coverage: as comfort food, not as a stress-inducing, thrill-of-victory-agony-of-defeat double espresso.
It’s liberating to watch all these obscure sports and not feel as if you had to take a crash course in how they’re played so that you can try to gauge who’s going to win. Is 12.94 a good time in the 110-meter hurdles or a bad score in the men’s high bar? Does water polo involve any actual strategy, or is it just a bunch of guys or gals goofing around in a pool? Is there really any appreciable difference between one pair of synchronized divers and another? Don’t care; already know who won. Just going to sit here and admire the impossibly fit bodies and be glad I don’t have to wear that ridiculous pool headgear.
With foreknowledge of the results, you can even make adjustments to suit your personal anxiety-tolerance level. Don’t want to see Gabby Douglas’s excruciating fall? Turns out a balance beam routine lasts exactly as long as it takes to go to the kitchen and get some ice cream.

That's funny, because it's exactly how I've been treating these Olympics. I'm strictly OTA now, limited to just NBC, so I WANT to know the results beforehand, so I can pick nand choose what I want to see on NBC's evening package shows. Frankly, I don't care one bit about most of the Olympic sports, so most of the time just knowing the results has been good enough for me. Let's see, the US men's basketball team win again? zzzzzzz....Usain Bolt won again? zzzzzzzz..... Phelps won another relay medal? zzzzzzzz.... And so on. Wake me up when the NFL season starts. biggrin.gif
post #534 of 799
I don't understand the big issue. I watch almost nothing live any longer, including sporting events. If it's really something I don't want to know the outcome of before hand, I do generally try to watch them asap after enough commercial buffer has built up though tongue.gif


ron
post #535 of 799
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Originally Posted by R11 View Post

I don't understand the big issue. I watch almost nothing live any longer, including sporting events. If it's really something I don't want to know the outcome of before hand, I do generally try to watch them asap after enough commercial buffer has built up though tongue.gif
ron

Commercials? What are they? wink.gif

I PVR with the best of them - but the Olympics is all about watching events live - at least here it is.

Watching with Twitter is even more fun!
Edited by sneals2000 - 8/11/12 at 1:34pm
post #536 of 799
post #537 of 799

Better than nothing. No idea what to expect. It's being trailled as great party celebrating 50 years of Brit pop... (Stage show being directed by Stephen Daldry - Oscar nominated Film and Theatre director. Not sure who is directing for TV - may well be the Finnish team from YLE who have done most of the Athletics and did the "IOC" bits of the Opening Ceremony. The Finns may have had their noses put slightly out of joint by a separate TV team producing the bulk of the coverage of the Danny Boyle Opening Ceremony that they would normally have fallen to them - as it did in Beijing.)
post #538 of 799
Tonight on NBC, another documentary (this one about "The Battle of Britain") to open the prime-time Olympic broadcast. Okay, DVR'ing that to be viewed later. I suppose anybody under the age of 50 can get a very visual history lesson while watching the Olympics. :-)
post #539 of 799
First, I am not a girly guy. But I think I have found a new go to event: rhythmic gymnastics. These women are good. The things they pull off using a variety of props is amazing. Their moves make the floor portion of the regular gymnastics look tame. The group finals are tomorrow, Sunday. Take a look and you might change your opinion too.
post #540 of 799
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Originally Posted by mreedelp View Post

First, I am not a girly guy. But I think I have found a new go to event: rhythmic gymnastics. These women are good. The things they pull off using a variety of props is amazing. Their moves make the floor portion of the regular gymnastics look tame. The group finals are tomorrow, Sunday. Take a look and you might change your opinion too.

Yup, there were hours of this during the morning and afternoon on CTV. NBC had just as much of this during their daytime coverage too (sandwiched between Volleyball and Basketball). Maybe they're trying to build an audience for this sport.
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