Increasing sharpness and contrast on your projector - Page 2

New software? I wasn't aware of that, got a link (or info) to what's updated in the new software? And how do you get it?

The new software makes the color space mode outputted the same as that inputted. That is say RGB in, you get RGB out. YPbPr 4:2:2 in, you get the same out. Moreover, you get to control the intensity of the Darbeevision processing in interger steps O to 120 instead of jumps of 5, going from 0, 5, 10 etc to 120. Send Ddarbeevision an email and you will get an RMA and instructions for sending it in. You pay the shipping to them, they pay the shipping back to you. You can also hand carry the unit to their booth at Cedia and they will flash the new software for you there.

The units in the new shipment arriving AV Science on Weds will have the new firmware.
Edited by AV Science Sales 4 - 7/29/12 at 5:06pm

Most questions here including the one I answered above, are answered in the Darblet thread in the video components forum in not surprisingly the Darblet thread. Tha Darblet is a single function processor. It does not cook, wash the clothes, resize, noise filter, yada yada. It won't help stutter, jutter, ghosting etc. It just enhances contrast transitions on a pixel by pixel basis. No other processor out there does this and I would treat it as a stand alone single function or an addition to an existing processor. It really works and enhancing contrast transitions brings out detail if its there in the source but lost into close levels of surrounding contrast. By making these contrast transition more visable, the effect to your eyes is greater resolution or sharpness and increased 2D depth.

Rather than repeat things over and over, please go to the other thread. In short, you want to add this and the cost delivered is only $269. It makes EVERY projector better. And AV Science as usual has a no risk trial for you with your only cost if returned is our shipping costs to you and your shipping cost of sending it back. Very very few of the ones we have sold have come back.
Edited by AV Science Sales 4 - 7/29/12 at 5:08pm

After a bunch of reading of the other thread the past few days, I decided I was sold, especially after seeing the confirmation here of these having the new firmware and what that actually means. I ordered mine from you today during my lunch break and am definitely looking forward to playing with this as a rather inexpensive way of eking just a bit more out of my venerable-but-still-very-satisfactory RS20 that I bought from you ~3 1/2 years ago. Thanks for bringing this to our attention here in the PJ side of the site, as I don't (as you mentioned in the OP) typically spend much time perusing the video processor forum. Given its cost, if I'm impressed enough with what it does, don't be surprised if I order a second one for my bedroom TV!

I'll wait for a Darbee v2, when you can perform FW update yourself by USB.

I'm getting one. I'm very excited to see what it will do with my ae7000!

Ok, got my new Darbee Darblet. I have to turn my projector for RGB for it to display properly, I thought that was to be fixed with the new firmware. I obviously got new firmware as I am able to adjust control by increments of 1. My firmware version is 1.3.21 and it says software version 2.8.2205. Other than that, I put in a blu-ray I had watched and was familiar with and turned the setting to Hi Def and turned it to around 55%. It does do what people say, it sharpens image and it's like a veil is lifted. It's neat to pause an image and turn it on/off to see what it does to image. Very nice especially for the price.

Mike

I want one of these things. Does AVS have any in stock?

I posted this yesterday in the RS-55 thread, but it's appropriate here too:

Another Darbee data point...

I received my Darbee today. I installed it, which took about 3 minutes. I watched a bunch of the Olympics and I thought the effect was subtle... until I turned it off. Then the picture seemed really soft. Lesson: If you're going to evaluate the improvement with this device, do it on content with which you're already familiar.

So, I put in my "most familiar" piece of content: The Eagles, Farewell One on HD DVD. I keep my HD DVD player in my system *just* so I can watch this disc. It's my single favorite concert disc. I owned on it DVD and when it came out on HD DVD, I bought a player just to be able to watch it in Hi-Def and listen to the DTS-MA track. I've watched it literally dozens of times, having used it as my primary concert video demo disc. I know it inside and out, so it was very easy to see the difference with the Darbee.

Adding the Darbee improved the video significantly! The most noticeable improvements were sharpness in the details of facial features, and the textures of the clothes the guys were wearing, and the grains, textures and wear-marks on the guitars and violins. Also, when the camera does long pans of the audience, the detail in those pans was much improved. In addition, I thought the shadow detail was hugely improved. Usually to get better shadow detail, you need to raise the black level a little. No need for that now. Shadow detail is much better AND blacks are still deep black. smile.gif

My biggest concern before seeing the device in use was that it would add some EE ringing or other artifacts. I didn't see *any* of that, (unless I turned it all the way up.) Running it at 65 or so just added detail, sharpness and an increase in perceived detail.

Overall, on first blush, I'm pretty impressed.

One editorial comment though... for $249 they could have at least thrown in an extra HDMI cable. Everyone who gets this thing will need an additional HDMI cable. I had an extra one laying around, but many people won't. Why not just include one? Hell, they can buy them in quantity from PE for peanuts: here's one for $3.50 if you buy more than 4: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=181-772 I don't know, it just seems cheap to not include one.

Other than that, I'm pretty happy.

Craig

So, is anyone besides me also having to turn projector to RGB with new Darblet? I just received mine friday so i thought it should have new firmware. Is it fixed with new firmware or do I have something set wrong. I tried both Auto, 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 on Lumagen XD and Darblet and it will only display properly if I change JVC RS40 to RGB.

Everyone should have a Darblet as like everyone has said it does snap into focus and it's like it removes a veil from picture. I'm very impressed with it.

Thanks,
Mike

Go to the Darblet thread; this has been widely discussed.

I didn't read anywhere that it had been discussed with the ones that just arrived that have the new firmware.

I must've misunderstood as I thought these newest ones would have this problem fixed.

Thanks,
Mike
Edited by mbw23air - 8/6/12 at 6:22pm

Thanks Mike,

Ok, makes sense, thanks for the news. The Darblet does work wonderfully to sharpen picture. It's a relatively inexpensive upgrade to projector pq.

Thanks again,
Mike

I got one from AVS last week too, but the adjust control is by increments of 5. Does that mean I got the old stock or I need to change a setting to make the adjust incrementation by 1?

Go into the menu and can change from increments of 5 or 1 if you have the newer FW.

I visit thé shop online avs to try to order à darblet, but it is written always out of stock, i am hère in vacation in us for Fès dans and wish to buy one pièce , is there à Wayne to order it ?
Thanks
Bruno

I just installed the Darbee inline to my vw60, no rs40 projector. It is nothing short of amazing. It is like a veil has been lifted off an already fantastic image. I highly recommend this product.

Ordered mine the other day thru Mike,will be from the Opp 95 to my X-9,chompin at the bit so to speak.
Will order another for our TV if it's a real nice step up.

Go to the Advanced menu option and change it to 1 from 5.

I'd like to order one but need to confirm that all new unit comes with the new fw as I will ship the unit overseas and would not want the hassle of sending them back for the fw update.

when will the new stock will be in?

Any users here have the Darbee with a Lumagen mini-3D in the chain ? Any handshaking issues ?

I would like to use it, keeping the 4:2:2 color space configuration I am using at this point (with my JVC RS40 projector).

Please, your thougths are appreciated.

In the thread in the Video Processors forum, Lumagen owners are reporting that the Darblet still has color space issues with YCbCr.

It works fine if you set the Lumagen to output RGB. Honestly, there's very little likelihood that the difference between YCbCr and RGB will be visible to your eye anyway. This is a non-issue, IMO.

Hi,

Will AVS ship to Canada?