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post #121 of 1445
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As a more-or-less Dedicated Home Theater set, largely limited to "real" HD material, a large panel probably makes sense ($$ permitting, of course!) - but now you are also running into the Projector market: IF 80", Why Not 120"?? cool.gif

Well if I thought they'd make a 120" 4K TV I could afford, I'd be thrilled! I think that is about as much as I could take in due to the size of my small living room but I'd probably be better off with about a 100" or maybe a tad more. I tend to pretty much only watch HD content although my Oppo does an amazing job of making even DVDs look fantastic! I'm sure any TV that is 4K would have comparable scaling and rendering technology to my $500 Oppo.
post #122 of 1445
This is the scariest Halloween ever--we're looking at the horror of no plasma and LCD that sucks!

People aren't going to pay trillions for OLED.

Things haven't been this bad since the 1974 Mustang!
post #123 of 1445
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Originally Posted by Artwood View Post

This is the scariest Halloween ever--we're looking at the horror of no plasma and LCD that sucks!
People aren't going to pay trillions for OLED.
Things haven't been this bad since the 1974 Mustang!

Artwood, what's going on man. It's gonna be ok, we're gonna beat this thing.

Buy yourself a nice VT60 in about 6-7 months and enjoy.
post #124 of 1445
Possibly HDMI 2.0?
post #125 of 1445
Keep dreaming guys but don't expect high-end stuff at consumer prices:

"Panasonic, Japan’s second-biggest TV maker, said Oct. 31 it expected a 765 billion-yen full-year net loss, or 30 times bigger than analysts had estimated, citing restructuring costs and falling demand for its products. Osaka-based Panasonic said it won’t pay a dividend for the first time since 1950 because of an “urgent need” to improve its financial position." -Bloomberg
post #126 of 1445
It'll be about time to replace my 2011 Panasonic next summer, so I hope the new Vt brings it like the 50, Ill be plenty happy. If mll drops another hair, even better news. Kinda interested to see whats up with this new phosphor mix and improved noise reduction.
post #127 of 1445
^You replace TVs every 2 years? eek.gif
post #128 of 1445
Yepp.
post #129 of 1445
I hope they end up in deserving homes. biggrin.gif
post #130 of 1445
Lol. Craigslist or family wink.gif

Lot of friends with nice gear because I like to buy new stuff.
post #131 of 1445
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Lol. Craigslist or family wink.gif
Lot of friends with nice gear because I like to buy new stuff.

I still have my 42" Panasonic professional plasma from 2006. Very nice plasma, built like a tank, and still going strong. Although it's no longer my primary TV as I got a new one recently. Seeing now that Panasonic may exit the plasma business in the future, I don't think I'll ever part with it unless it dies of course. Pretty regular use until 2 month ago. Let's see how long this sucker will last.. wink.gif
post #132 of 1445
I have a TH-P50PX60U, a TH-58PZ700U, and a TC-P65S2. I love my Panasonic plasmas and with ever new model they just keep getting better. I'm really tempted to pull the trigger on a TC-P65ST50 especially if the rumors of plasma's demise are true (and since Amazon has them for $2K)...however, if there's any chance of Panasonic releasing a 70" or larger plasma in 2013 I'll wait. I never could understand the allure of LCD flat panels because of their added expense and sub-par picture quality with respect to plasma. I hope plasma sticks around until something truly better comes along, but I just don't know...
post #133 of 1445
Demise may be soon, but 2013 models are coming for sure, which is why Im watching closely.
post #134 of 1445
Hopefully they'll leak some info soon smile.gif
post #135 of 1445
Only thing Ive seen so far is improved noise reduction, and an all new filter.
post #136 of 1445
I think the blacks on the vt50 are plenty good already (of course I won't complain if they get better). My problem is it often looks soft and/or noisy and/or downright ugly when fed anything less than bluray. Love the deep blacks and natural colors, but whenever I look at my LCD I marvel how "clean" it is.
post #137 of 1445
LCD is def more sharp. I wonder if maybe they havent improved the dithering, to help sharpen the image. Also, Samsung plasmas actually do offer a more sharp image, so its possible for panasonic to do it.

I know the VT50 blacks are excellent, and I expect the 60 to even be better. I see the same noise on my GT30 with compressed feeds, but with good feeds and blu-ray, it looks excellent.
post #138 of 1445
I've had a 65" ST30 for the last year and have been very happy with it (especially after it got cal'd by Chad B). However, I would really like to see a 70" or larger next year and would very much consider that.

I too believe the blacks will be improved from the 50 series.
post #139 of 1445
I would like to see a 70 inch VT60 with a MSRP @ $4299.
post #140 of 1445
Would it be stupid to buy a 65VT50 or a 65GT50 now? When would the 65" 2013's normally be available?
post #141 of 1445
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Would it be stupid to buy a 65VT50 or a 65GT50 now? When would the 65" 2013's normally be available?

Not before april.
post #142 of 1445
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Originally Posted by Digitally challe View Post

I would like to see a 70 inch VT60 with a MSRP @ $4299.

That's pretty much what I'm hoping will be out as well. If they went even to 75" I'd have to get a 4K but 70" is on that border of OK with 1080p at the distance I sit from my TV. I realize I'll pay more for 4K when it is available on a set I want and I'm OK with that. Frankly if Crystal LED was out next year (in a decent size -usually first gens are only wimpy 55" models smile.gif ), I'd probably skip the Panasonic but at this point, I'll take what I can get.
post #143 of 1445
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Only thing Ive seen so far is improved noise reduction, and an all new filter.

Sorry to be an ignoramus but could some explain what these mean?
e.g is noise reduction to help with gritty pictures - such as the original SG1 series almost seems like static?

And what does the filter do?
post #144 of 1445
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

Sorry to be an ignoramus but could some explain what these mean?
e.g is noise reduction to help with gritty pictures - such as the original SG1 series almost seems like static?
And what does the filter do?

Could help with poor sources, detail on improvement hasn't been released yet. Filter helps the glass battle against room lighting and glare.
post #145 of 1445
It's a race for time - will Panasonic actually make a better-than-PioneerElite plasma before plasma is dead? I hope so. I expect we will see the first round of hybrid LED/OLED TVs (or at least per-pixel-LED TVs) announced at CES this year, just at a higher price. Already the Sharp Elite has shown that it's not all downhill from here, so I'm hopeful that we will have a smooth transition, and buying a high end TV a few years from now will not be a downgrade.
post #146 of 1445
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Could help with poor sources, detail on improvement hasn't been released yet. Filter helps the glass battle against room lighting and glare.

Thanks
post #147 of 1445
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Originally Posted by sethk View Post

It's a race for time - will Panasonic actually make a better-than-PioneerElite plasma before plasma is dead? I hope so. I expect we will see the first round of hybrid LED/OLED TVs (or at least per-pixel-LED TVs) announced at CES this year, just at a higher price. Already the Sharp Elite has shown that it's not all downhill from here, so I'm hopeful that we will have a smooth transition, and buying a high end TV a few years from now will not be a downgrade.
Better could happen if they can hold on 'til 2014. Surely they will have matched in 2013, which can only be a good thing since they will presumably have 65" panels available like they have in years prior. That will give them the winning status by default since the largest Kuro was "only" 60".
post #148 of 1445
Either Plasma will produce a great set in 2014 or plasma fans will start crying.

If OLED costs trillions and Sharp goes out of business by then then we'll be doomed to the horror of crappy LCD!!!
post #149 of 1445
I still think the 2013 sets will be closer but not hitting the black level of the 500m.

If the new tech prototype stuff from Panasonic goes forward in 2014, that will be OLED's equal and with no color shifting issues.

I can't imagine CLED being a real product before 2020.
post #150 of 1445
Is anyone checking patents to see what Panasonic has up their sleeve? I can't even remember how to go about researching that.
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