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post #241 of 1446
12/10/12 at 6:18am
I would only be tempted to figure out how to trade up on my VT50 if the black levels matched Kuro (among other measures) AND the sizes changed from 55/65 to 60/70. I suppose it would be too expensive to offer 60/70 since several shared parts (with the VT50) would have to be developed.
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post #242 of 1446
12/10/12 at 7:30am
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Originally Posted by MechanicalMan View Post

I'd be shocked if Panasonic ever releases a plasma as large as 75". It seems they've been strongly hinting that there will be a model or models (including a VT) between 66" and 70" in 2013. Of course, we should find out for sure during CES. But I think 70" is the largest that anyone can realistically hope for. I think the market is just too small for expensive, 75" plasmas.

I agree , sadly. 70" would probably make more sense.
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post #243 of 1446
12/10/12 at 8:16am
D-Nice had said there will be some kind of size "adjustment" to the 55", 60", and 65" sizes, so it should be interesting.
Edited by DavidHir - 12/10/12 at 9:49am
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post #244 of 1446
12/10/12 at 8:56am
"They don't buzz unless something inside is defective."

Randy, have you ever owned a plasma? You seem to kick around a lot of theories as fact when it actually seems like you basically don't know what you're talking about. Have you ever thought that maybe you are hard of hearing over like 500Hz? Plasma buzzes. Your friend's plasma buzzed too, it still does.
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post #245 of 1446
12/10/12 at 9:00am
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D-Nice had said there will be some kind of "adjustment" to the 55", 60", and 65" sizes, so it should be interesting.

Well, if they offer a 60" and the black levels and other measures make a legit leap, then I'll be very tempted. That is, if prices aren't too bad and I can sell my VT50.

I'm sort of hoping to be disappointed. LOL.
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post #246 of 1446
12/10/12 at 9:09am
If the 60" sizes have deeper black levels and they've made improvements on that front, then it's possible that we'll see around .001 ft/L mll or below. I'm guessing that for the non VT series, that'll be in the 60"+ sizes, but it's too soon to know. If the 60ST and GT50 were at .002-.0025...it stands to reason that your Kuro replacement could be here in a few months.
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post #247 of 1446
12/10/12 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

D-Nice had said there will be some kind of "adjustment" to the 55", 60", and 65" sizes, so it should be interesting.

Adjustment for black level??? Was that on HDJ?
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post #248 of 1446
12/10/12 at 9:48am
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Adjustment for black level??? Was that on HDJ?

I meant adjustment for size....yep at HDJ in the insider thread. D-nice didn't seem to think much of a change in black level and avj alluded something similar.
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post #249 of 1446
12/10/12 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

D-Nice had said there will be some kind of size "adjustment" to the 55", 60", and 65" sizes, so it should be interesting.


Earlier this year he also said Panasonic was getting out of the plasma business so if this is true I don't know if we're going to see them making larger screened models in 2013.
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post #250 of 1446
12/10/12 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by HLdan View Post

Earlier this year he also said Panasonic was getting out of the plasma business so if this is true I don't know if we're going to see them making larger screened models in 2013.
The Panasonic guy at HDJ said that there will be new screen sizes in 2013, and he strongly implied that the largest VT will be larger than 65".
Also, I think you may be misinterpreting whatever you heard D-Nice say. He made some remark about Panasonic having an exit strategy, but that doesn't imply that Panasonic is going to immediately stop making any changes or improvements to their plasma TVs.
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post #251 of 1446
12/10/12 at 10:46am
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Don't know what the UN has to do with it Vinnie. People want to live in the cities I listed. I'm sitting here in my rather small house (compared to what I could buy in Oregon, Nebraska, etc.) with my backdoor open, the scent of frsh flowers wafting through the door and through my windows I see ripening oranges and avacados. Tourists stop to pick lemons off of my tree during the winter. To me that's a value add. Not to everyone though. My folks in Michigan are appalled by what I get for my money....but they come out to visit in the winter to get away from the weather.
I've lived many places in America but choose to live here when my business allows my to live anywhere. To each his own. We're all trying to find a place we're comfortable with and in.
Back to displays, the demise of plasma, etc. My original point is that the demo/psychos are changing....18 year olds cherish being mobile. So I's guess sales of big displays will continue to fall. Maybe next year Panny will hit the 9G benchmark but beyond that who knows.
It's hard to imagine 200 feet as anywhere near comfortable (perhaps if you only spend time sleeping there), and let's just say I harbor deep convictions about any international organization that would seek to impede on the sovereignty of any nation state, the US included. wink.gif Sorry for taking it a bit OT.
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post #252 of 1446
12/10/12 at 11:05am
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It's hard to imagine 200 feet as anywhere near comfortable (perhaps if you only spend time sleeping there), and let's just say I harbor deep convictions about any international organization that would seek to impede on the sovereignty of any nation state, the US included. wink.gif Sorry for taking it a bit OT.

No worries Vinnie. Not that I could live in 200 sg.ft. or ever could. I was thinking aloud about how these changing expectations/demographics might affect plasma/LCD business sales. In my business I'm astonished to discover that 45% of the conversions my clients see are from smart phones. Who knows? I always thought everyone wanted as much space and display as they could get but now many want community.

Tony Hsieh of Zappos is building a community of entrepreneurs and people who want to be part of that scene in downtown Las Vegas...and response is overwhelming. Social Networks have changed the game regarding what people want and think they need. Think big, change the world, live small seems to be the new zeitgeist.
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post #253 of 1446
12/10/12 at 12:06pm
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The Panasonic guy at HDJ said that there will be new screen sizes in 2013, and he strongly implied that the largest VT will be larger than 65".
Also, I think you may be misinterpreting whatever you heard D-Nice say. He made some remark about Panasonic having an exit strategy, but that doesn't imply that Panasonic is going to immediately stop making any changes or improvements to their plasma TVs.

Doubt that I misinterpreted anything, that's what he said. When it will happen? He didn't say exactly but that type of statement doesn't sound like it's too far off, but thanks for your confidence in my reading comprehension.
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post #254 of 1446
12/10/12 at 12:17pm
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Earlier this year he also said Panasonic was getting out of the plasma business so if this is true I don't know if we're going to see them making larger screened models in 2013.

You're mistaken, D-Nice never said that Panasonic was getting out of the Plasma business, but he did talk about Panasonic's exit strategy.
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post #255 of 1446
12/10/12 at 12:23pm
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Doubt that I misinterpreted anything, that's what he said. When it will happen? He didn't say exactly but that type of statement doesn't sound like it's too far off, but thanks for your confidence in my reading comprehension.

I think we all know that Panasonic will stop making plasmas someday, Nostradamus. But as I already said, you should not have inferred that Panasonic will cease making any changes to their plasmas. And it's probably a safe bet that there will be new sizes in 2013, since a Panasonic employee has already publicly stated that there will be new sizes in 2013.
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post #256 of 1446
12/10/12 at 12:30pm
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I think we all know that Panasonic will stop making plasmas someday, Nostradamus. But as I already said, you should not have inferred that Panasonic will cease making any changes to their plasmas. And it's probably a safe bet that there will be new sizes in 2013, since a Panasonic employee has already publicly stated that there will be new sizes in 2013.

This post contains large piles of win. I rarely quote posts just to note that fact. smile.gif
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post #257 of 1446
12/10/12 at 12:33pm
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Doubt that I misinterpreted anything, that's what he said. When it will happen? He didn't say exactly but that type of statement doesn't sound like it's too far off, but thanks for your confidence in my reading comprehension.

D-Nice never stated or implied Panasonic was exiting in 2013. If you interpreted it that way, that's incorrect. He was speaking at some point down the road which is no secret at all.
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post #258 of 1446
12/10/12 at 2:36pm
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You guys keep trying to shovel that BS that panasonic has the lowest repair rate out there........The only what they have that is people choose not to put any more money into their bad purchase of panasonic.....if you'd just search the net about all the problems they've had and are still having years later, you might understand what they are really about. It seems their plan is to make tvs to only last a couple of years so they can sell more. ..... kauaidoug, I can't blame you for having second thoughts about buying panasonic. Do the research and you'll make the right decision.....
Not crying here....but laughing at all of you that continue to defend panasonic and spend your money with them.......If the tvs lasted like they should, then you wouldn't be able to say that you've owned so many different sets....Talk to repair shops and see what brands they see the most of, at least of the top brands.

Ive had several and never had one problem. You did, so what.

Neither experience changes FACT that they have a very low repair rate.
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post #259 of 1446
12/10/12 at 5:11pm
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

You're mistaken, D-Nice never said that Panasonic was getting out of the Plasma business, but he did talk about Panasonic's exit strategy.
If I misread or misinterpreted it then fine, also I have no problem if it wasn't implied that way but I don't care for your pompous post either. rolleyes.gif
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post #260 of 1446
12/10/12 at 5:12pm
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D-Nice never stated or implied Panasonic was exiting in 2013. If you interpreted it that way, that's incorrect. He was speaking at some point down the road which is no secret at all.
I didn't say 2013.
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post #261 of 1446
12/10/12 at 5:20pm
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I think we all know that Panasonic will stop making plasmas someday, Nostradamus. But as I already said, you should not have inferred that Panasonic will cease making any changes to their plasmas. And it's probably a safe bet that there will be new sizes in 2013, since a Panasonic employee has already publicly stated that there will be new sizes in 2013.
Oh excuse me for not being as perfect as you.
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post #262 of 1446
12/10/12 at 5:39pm
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Doubt that I misinterpreted anything, that's what he said. When it will happen? He didn't say exactly but that type of statement doesn't sound like it's too far off, but thanks for your confidence in my reading comprehension.
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If I misread or misinterpreted it then fine, also I have no problem if it wasn't implied that way but I don't care for your pompous post either. rolleyes.gif

I was simply stating a fact, there was nothing pompous about my post. If anyone is being pompous around here it's you tongue.gif
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post #263 of 1446
12/10/12 at 5:42pm
D-nice is a nice guy, but he hardly knows what the President and Board of Panasonic are doing with this company in such dire financial troubles.

Would you buy a 2013 Panasonic plasma if it was the last year for them?
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post #264 of 1446
12/10/12 at 5:53pm
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Would you buy a 2013 Panasonic plasma if it was the last year for them?

I would. Can't afford OLED, too soon for a 4K and I hate LCDs. Don't have a choice. A 70" VT60 is all I want.
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post #265 of 1446
12/10/12 at 5:56pm
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Would you buy a 2013 Panasonic plasma if it was the last year for them?

Absolutely. I'd probably buy three of them and store some away for the future wink.gif

Oh, my word, was that too pompous of me ? biggrin.gif
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post #266 of 1446
12/10/12 at 6:09pm
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I was simply stating a fact, there was nothing pompous about my post. If anyone is being pompous around here it's you tongue.gif

I see, so is it true that you've read every single one of D'Nice's posts on AVS and HDJ and you read the exact post I that I was speaking of? Yeah, I didn't think so. I'm not the only person you've offended here recently from the tone of your posts. tongue.gif
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post #267 of 1446
12/10/12 at 6:26pm
I've decided against buying a used Elite Kuro (or even new) and getting a 65vt50 instead of waiting for 2013 Panny's. I read that there is a Nostradamus or two on this thread so I thought I'd ask.

I've had Elites for 6 years and have a 111fd (50 inch) right now.
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post #268 of 1446
12/10/12 at 6:27pm
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I see, so is it true that you've read every single one of D'Nice's posts on AVS and HDJ and you read the exact post I that I was speaking of? Yeah, I didn't think so.

Actually i HAVE read every single post D-Nice has made in the various Panasonic Plasma threads over the years both here at AVS and over at HDJ. And i have a better memory than anyone i know.

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I'm not the only person you've offended here recently from the tone of your posts. tongue.gif

Wasn't it you who called me pompous (or something like that) when i posted that i just slipped into Magnolia on a whim and bought my GT50 while my little woman was in the market next door buying some steaks?

If anyone is offended by my posts then they're being too sensitive, or are taking it wrong, or were posting mis-information, or they were trolling and deserved it. That's their problem, not mine wink.gif
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post #269 of 1446
12/10/12 at 6:36pm
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I was simply stating a fact....p

Yeah, like the "fact' you stated yesterday that Plasmas don't buzz unless something inside is defective? Well that would account for almost everyone here who complains about buzzing. What you said simply was not a fact.
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Actually i HAVE read every single post D-Nice has made in the various Panasonic Plasma threads over the years both here at AVS and over at HDJ. And i have a better memory than anyone i know.
Wasn't it you who called me pompous (or something like that) when i posted that i just slipped into Magnolia on a whim and bought my GT50 while my little woman was in the market next door buying some steaks?
If anyone is offended by my posts then they're being too sensitive, or are taking it wrong, or were posting mis-information, or they were trolling and deserved it. That's their problem, not mine wink.gif

Of course you have a BETTER memory than anyone you know. You come across as a know it all and that is pompous. Why don't realize how you're coming at people rather than calling them sensitive? That's also pompous. You also said someone PM'd you and called you the "F" word? Yeah, of course you don't offend people. No worries. I'm finished.
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post #270 of 1446
12/10/12 at 8:10pm
Articles like this make me believe a better plasma in 2013 can just be wishful thinking.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/major-japanese-electronic-manufacturers-forced-to-sell-off-assets/18296.html#
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