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post #31 of 52
7/31/12 at 6:51pm
Eat Meat!
All some of us were asking, because it does seem very low , that in all of 2011 , only 40,000 1080p PJ's (low, middle, high end models) were sold Worldwide from all companies. We all KNOW hdtv's sell a ton more than PJ's. So stop being dumb. Just provide legit link that shows 40,000 total 1080p PJ's sold in 2011. And in research they called epson, optuma, viewsonic Nec, Lg, jvc, etc ...and did their homework and not just talked to some "self proclaimed expert who works in 1 distributor location". I mean calling someone the writer knows that works for some distributor , a friend of a friend, and the guy says " only 40,000 1080p PJ's sold in 2011" doesn't cut it. smile.gif
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post #32 of 52
7/31/12 at 8:20pm
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Eat Meat!
All some of us were asking, because it does seem very low , that in all of 2011 , only 40,000 1080p PJ's (low, middle, high end models) were sold Worldwide from all companies. We all KNOW hdtv's sell a ton more than PJ's. So stop being dumb. Just provide legit link that shows 40,000 total 1080p PJ's sold in 2011. And in research they called epson, optuma, viewsonic Nec, Lg, jvc, etc ...and did their homework and not just talked to some "self proclaimed expert who works in 1 distributor location". I mean calling someone the writer knows that works for some distributor , a friend of a friend, and the guy says " only 40,000 1080p PJ's sold in 2011" doesn't cut it. smile.gif

sorry its pretty common knowledge, i dont have to prove it... again.... -I have before-even at the numbers you quote its still a tiny niche market,dont you get that....jebus
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post #33 of 52
8/1/12 at 5:14am
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I think those numbers are wrong,and the numbers have been posted here before,and are well known and have been talked about.that 20 or so are posting about using a led biz pj proves nothing(really come on now).
you cant just discount that part rolleyes.gif

So now the very article you were quoting is "wrong" because you lacked the reading comprhension to see that it doesn't actually agree with you? Rich...

Fry's is selling a ton of $400 LG HW300-T/HW350-Ts. You know this forum only attracts a small percentage of the people buying this stuff.


I'm looking forward to other inventive ways you try to weasel out of being flat wrong here...
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post #34 of 52
8/1/12 at 11:07am
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According to market research firm Quixel Research, shipments of home-theater-specific front projectors in the United States were up 11 percent to 34,543 units from the same period in 2011, but were down 33 percent from the 54,221 units sold in the fourth quarter last year.

Tamaryn Pratt, Quixel principal, said some of the year-to-year unit shipment growth could be traced to lower-cost 720p HD models and price-reduced stepup 3D front projectors.
1080p numbers are what i was talking about 40 or 250 thousand is tiny compared to 40 inch and above flat screens sales, doh......nothing to prove its a fact, duhhhh

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1346318/will-low-cost-led-projectors-displace-lcd-and-plasmas/120
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You necro-ed an old thread, but that notwithstanding... "displace" implies that the first thing is in place, and the latter moves it out. To that extent, projectors have not only failed to displace LCDs and plasmas, the trend is precisely the opposite. With 80-inch (and soon 90-inch) LCDs that are affordable, flatscreens are beginning to displace the tiny number of projectors sold into homes.
rogo and spucuvester have taken on this topic it seems every time lg fans get another led pico pj starting with the hs 200-201 rolleyes.gif


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Fry's is selling a ton of $400 LG HW300-T/HW350-Ts.
prove it......
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post #35 of 52
8/1/12 at 11:33am
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By Greg Tarr -- TWICE, 3/26/2012
AUSTIN, TEXAS — Global TV shipments fell by 0.3 percent to 247.7 million units in 2011
http://www.twice.com/article/482274-2011_Saw_Global_TV_Sales_Declines_DisplaySearch.php

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post #36 of 52
8/1/12 at 7:49pm
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prove it......

Right after you come up with proof on your 40k/yr HT projector number. rolleyes.gifrolleyes.gifrolleyes.gif
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post #37 of 52
8/1/12 at 7:56pm
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http://www.twice.com/article/482274-2011_Saw_Global_TV_Sales_Declines_DisplaySearch.php
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Eat Meat!
Even with globe sales of 240 million hdtv's being sold world wide a year, you would think your 40,000 1080p PJ's sold per year wouldn't FLY. 1 Percent of 240 million would be 2.4 million ... I think that is right ... maybe even 3 percent ... not sure. But your 40,000 just seemed too low, why can't you take it like a MAN, and say... " yeah, it is too low" ... We all know PJ's don't sell like HDTV's. It's just I think you underestimate how many 1080p are sold per year. That other link I provided said about 11 million, so 3 percent compared to 240 million hdtv's... but of that maybe 10-30 percent 1080p PJ's.
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post #38 of 52
8/2/12 at 2:28pm
The "take it like a MAN" bit is childish,sorry I have friends in the industry, so you believe what you want.
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Tamaryn Pratt, Quixel principal, said some of the year-to-year unit shipment growth could be traced to lower-cost 720p HD models and price-reduced stepup 3D front projectors.
again totaly disregarding that they are including 720p
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post #39 of 52
9/15/12 at 11:13am
Here's a latest short hands-on review. Btw this is really good as now epson, jvc, and others will have to follow and soon bye-bye bulbs and once that's accomplished then the pricing will come down to bulb models or I would predict be even less than current pricing. So if all goes according plan, epson 7020 LED bulb-less will be around 2K or less.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47442/viewsonic-pro9000-projector-pictures-hands-on
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post #40 of 52
9/15/12 at 1:31pm
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Here's a latest short hands-on review. Btw this is really good as now epson, jvc, and others will have to follow and soon bye-bye bulbs and once that's accomplished then the pricing will come down to bulb models or I would predict be even less than current pricing. So if all goes according plan, epson 7020 LED bulb-less will be around 2K or less.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47442/viewsonic-pro9000-projector-pictures-hands-on
thanks alot zoey67 for the review smile.gif


Viewsonic pro9000 vs Acer k750 !!!!
they are on the same track of specs-line ( like k330-ml500-...ect )
but with 1080p laser/led tech
the price $2000/$2500 range for the upcoming products ( follow up )
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epson, jvc, and others will have to follow and soon bye-bye bulbs
i don't doubt that at all-its a mater of time until laser/led roll the market and let go of the bulb tech !!
and i wouldn't spend big money on a 1st gen product
especially when it comes to price and quality vs bulb !!
its not there yet ...
but its a good move
i predict 2014 the year i buy high end pj led/laser-until they dig tech for better quality better price
may 4k res one biggrin.gif
lets wait 2013 whats hold for us then .....
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post #41 of 52
10/19/12 at 1:51pm
quick question... if the acer k750 really has a vsync range of 50 ~ 120 Hz, isn't it 3d capable? Granted, I'd have to drive it with my pc or an external box...
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post #42 of 52
10/19/12 at 2:54pm
May be in 720p. But not with 1080p, because the HDMI interface is not capable to transmit the resulting pixel rate.
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post #43 of 52
10/19/12 at 7:44pm
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I doubt one of those will do 120 Hz on 1080p for good 3D experience
and thats one of the reasons that it does not support 3D

capabilities or features of both k750 and pro9000 are mid range HT projectors
with all of that the price still high $2.6k range
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May be in 720p. But not with 1080p, because the HDMI interface is not capable to transmit the resulting pixel rate.
i am with you ...

THANKS
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post #44 of 52
11/30/12 at 1:21am
preview, review say the pro9000 doesn't have the best black levels. also a few say no rainbow problems.
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post #45 of 52
11/30/12 at 2:33am
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preview, reviews .. says K750 got better blacks level
but PRO9000 got better sharpness

the fact, both are mid range projector and the price does not help it !!!
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post #46 of 52
12/3/12 at 2:13am
Here is a youtube video clip of the Panasonic PT-RZ470/PT-RZ370 Product page here.

and

here is a avforums



Also found this, PT-RW330
Panasonic 3000+ Lumens LED / Laser Hybrid, WXGA 1280 * 800 Projector Due December 2012




I'm reading the Pro9000 going for around 3k right now.
Edited by Amber Ale - 1/9/13 at 1:30am
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post #47 of 52
1/14/13 at 3:58pm
any new info on the new Panasonic PT-RZ470?
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post #48 of 52
1/14/13 at 4:00pm
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post #49 of 52
1/16/13 at 5:05am
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any new info on the new Panasonic PT-RZ470?

More action over in the 3000+ topic.

Check out some of the new features though.
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post #50 of 52
3/7/13 at 10:38am
Add Sony to the list, just read they are coming out with a 3LCD laser projector.

Engadget article link.
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post #51 of 52
4/18/13 at 11:33pm
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preview, review say the pro9000 doesn't have the best black levels. also a few say no rainbow problems.

I got to see this today in less than idea viewing conditions and so whilst I can't really comment on blacks, I can say NO RAINBOWS!
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post #52 of 52
4/19/13 at 2:09am
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the sony 3LCD laser projector is not meant for home theater .. may the end of this year for hope to have one
and the same goes with Panasonic PT-RZ470
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1415604/panasonic-pt-rz470-full-hd-led-laser/150

and Acer K750 price goes down like $1,5k with free Acer 27" LED witch coast like +$200

what can we say PRO9000 vs K750 !!
nothing more then what Kraine said in overall K750 is better but not far from what we could imagine ( both mid range PJ )
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1400678/acer-k750-led-laser-hybrid/120

if someone looking for a HT projector the Optima HD91 is the real deal ( IMO ) by Sept .....

again lets hope and see whats comes better at the end of this year or even at 1Q 2014
not so far just keep enjoining what you have until then tongue.gif
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