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post #1141 of 1453
2/13/13 at 2:40pm
Thanks! I will look for the button.
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On the SC67/68, there is a speakers button on the remote that can toggle the speakers off/on....
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post #1142 of 1453
2/13/13 at 3:04pm
Will be setting up my new SC-67 this weekend. Couple questions;

AV Navigator- Yay or Nay?

Speaker System. Which should I choose.
Currently using a 5.2 set up. Eventually will add a zone 2 (once I get the nerve up to install a pair of in walls I bought a while back)
I' m guessing (G)Select 5.1 + Zone 2+3 is best option....

MCACC - Am planning on using Full Auto but any tips appreciated.

Phase Control - ON, OFF or FULL BAND?

HDMI Out CONTROL to my Plasma.

Any set up tips will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance....
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post #1143 of 1453
2/13/13 at 3:27pm
If using Av Navigator, I would select the option of what you currently are going to have setup now for your surround system. Then in the future when you add the additional speakers/zones you can re run Av Navigator with those upgrades. Otherwise it will ask questions relative to those other speakers/zones. Could potential create concerns for you.

Dont rush it, I would start with reading the entire owners manual it will help make the setup go more smoothly. Also you can play with the Av Navigator on your computer in demo mode. You can completely walk thru your setup without making any adjustments to your AVR. As an extra precaution to make sure you dont make any setting changes. Make sure your ethernet or wireless is not plugged into the AVR or powered on.
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post #1144 of 1453
2/13/13 at 7:38pm
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Originally Posted by TracerJohn View Post

Will be setting up my new SC-67 this weekend. Couple questions;

AV Navigator- Yay or Nay?

Any set up tips will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance....

I don't remember exactly now, but there is a known error in AV Navigator on where you plug in your sub. Info in the manual is correct. Other than that, AV N guides you through the process step by step. Whether you use AV N or not, you want to turn on your HDMI display for much more information than what you get on OSD during set up.
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post #1145 of 1453
2/14/13 at 4:18am
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Originally Posted by LNEWoLF View Post

If using Av Navigator, I would select the option of what you currently are going to have setup now for your surround system. Then in the future when you add the additional speakers/zones you can re run Av Navigator with those upgrades. Otherwise it will ask questions relative to those other speakers/zones. Could potential create concerns for you.

Dont rush it, I would start with reading the entire owners manual it will help make the setup go more smoothly. Also you can play with the Av Navigator on your computer in demo mode. You can completely walk thru your setup without making any adjustments to your AVR. As an extra precaution to make sure you dont make any setting changes. Make sure your ethernet or wireless is not plugged into the AVR or powered on.

I liked AV Navigator. Especially if you are editing input names. Much, much easier.

On the other hand, (unless I was doing something wrong), I was frustrated that you could not edit again after using AV Navigator???

I closed AV Navigator and just wanted to edit some settings. It made me start from the beginning and re-enter everything.

That was a pain....
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post #1146 of 1453
2/14/13 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by JackVette View Post

I am having the same issue but with a different setup.

My Pioneer SC68 will show the video from the cable box, but no audio.

My TV doesn't have HDMI now. It has DVI and I use a HDMI to DVI cable.

I only have a problem with the cable box. The other connected devices work fine.

I just got off the phone with Pioneer and they say its a handshake issue between the TV, Pioneer, and Cable Box.

I tried every troubleshooting step I could think of...

I get around this by using coax for audio and the component cables.

One last thing.... On Sunday, for some reason I got no audio from any device (Blu Ray, Apple TV, Nothing.....)

The only way I got it running was unplugging the Pioneer. That worked. The Pioneer rep thought that this fixed the handshake.... Cable still doesn't work but everything else does at least.

Thanks JackVette and ss9001 for your suggestions. Both very good ones.

ss9001, I considered that "HDMI Control" might be the issue but first did the quick and easy step of unplugging the AVR like JackVette suggest. And you know what? It worked! So, the HDMI audio issue is fixed. When in doubt, unplug stuff, LOL! This board is awesome! Thanks guys!
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post #1147 of 1453
2/14/13 at 1:58pm
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Originally Posted by JackVette View Post

I am having the same issue but with a different setup.

My Pioneer SC68 will show the video from the cable box, but no audio.

My TV doesn't have HDMI now. It has DVI and I use a HDMI to DVI cable.

I only have a problem with the cable box. The other connected devices work fine.

I just got off the phone with Pioneer and they say its a handshake issue between the TV, Pioneer, and Cable Box.

I tried every troubleshooting step I could think of...

I get around this by using coax for audio and the component cables.

One last thing.... On Sunday, for some reason I got no audio from any device (Blu Ray, Apple TV, Nothing.....)

The only way I got it running was unplugging the Pioneer. That worked. The Pioneer rep thought that this fixed the handshake.... Cable still doesn't work but everything else does at least.


I recently replaced a TV that only had DVI input and also used an HDMI>DVI connection. DVI doesn't carry audio, only video. So, the way you're getting around it (using coax or optical cable for the sound) is the only way it can be done. So it's not a handshake issue in terms of no audio. The handshake issue between my three devices could be a little dicey at times and about 1/3 of the time I had to turn the cable box on and off to get other than wavy lines to appear on screen, but it had nothing to do with carrying audio.
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post #1148 of 1453
2/14/13 at 2:43pm
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I recently replaced a TV that only had DVI input and also used an HDMI>DVI connection. DVI doesn't carry audio, only video. So, the way you're getting around it (using coax or optical cable for the sound) is the only way it can be done. So it's not a handshake issue in terms of no audio. The handshake issue between my three devices could be a little dicey at times and about 1/3 of the time I had to turn the cable box on and off to get other than wavy lines to appear on screen, but it had nothing to do with carrying audio.

Oops. Guess I misunderstood the issue. If you're running the HDMI from the cable box to the receiver, then the HDMI>DVI cable to the TV then you should absolutely get audio from the receiver. Duh. Think it though a little better before I post will hopefully be my new motto....so nevermind about what I said earlier.
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post #1149 of 1453
2/14/13 at 3:11pm
Could use some guidance on a SC-67 problem. On SAT/CBL display shows R/L front channels illuminated. I am getting 5.0, and no sub. On Test Tone, all channels are present on Blueray all channels are present and working. Just not on SAT/CBL.

Directv Genie via HDMI to SC-67 output to a 5.1 setup.

Thanks
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post #1150 of 1453
2/14/13 at 4:06pm
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Originally Posted by davmor View Post

I recently replaced a TV that only had DVI input and also used an HDMI>DVI connection. DVI doesn't carry audio, only video. So, the way you're getting around it (using coax or optical cable for the sound) is the only way it can be done. So it's not a handshake issue in terms of no audio. The handshake issue between my three devices could be a little dicey at times and about 1/3 of the time I had to turn the cable box on and off to get other than wavy lines to appear on screen, but it had nothing to do with carrying audio.

Its a handshake issue and my problem is actually somewhat different than I relayed.

My cable box is connected ti the SC68 via HDMI.

My SC68 is connected to the TV via an HDMI ---> DVI cable. I do get video through it as expected.

If the TV is off, the SC68 will decode the sound via the HDMI cable from the Cable Box.

If the TV is turned on, the sound will no longer decode in the SC68.

I also run an audio cable from the cable box to the TV so that I can get sound if the SC68 is not on.

Pioneer said this is a handshake issue.

I tried everthing I can think of to make this work. I gave up and ended up using a component connection from the Cable Box to the TV for sound and video. I also use the TV input on the SC68 so that I can get surround sound when I want. For that I use the Coax input.

I find the problem strange....
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post #1151 of 1453
2/14/13 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by davmor View Post

Oops. Guess I misunderstood the issue. If you're running the HDMI from the cable box to the receiver, then the HDMI>DVI cable to the TV then you should absolutely get audio from the receiver. Duh. Think it though a little better before I post will hopefully be my new motto....so nevermind about what I said earlier.

I also responded before reading your post.....

Anyway, thank you for responding.
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post #1152 of 1453
2/15/13 at 9:21am
Ordered my 67 today. Can't wait to receive it. Flirted with the Denon 4520 and the Anthem MRX 700, because of the correction schemes on both, but prefered the Pioneer. This thing is a bargain.
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post #1153 of 1453
2/15/13 at 10:49am
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Originally Posted by Goalline View Post

Ordered my 67 today. Can't wait to receive it. Flirted with the Denon 4520 and the Anthem MRX 700, because of the correction schemes on both, but prefered the Pioneer. This thing is a bargain.

Its still on my list when other obligations are taken care since it does sound like the best bang for the buck.
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post #1154 of 1453
2/15/13 at 10:56am
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Originally Posted by JackVette View Post

I also responded before reading your post.....

Anyway, thank you for responding.

I also looked at many others. I agree that this is a bargain.

Also, once I got it home, the sound was very, very good. I'm happy with the Pioneer.
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post #1155 of 1453
2/15/13 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by Goalline View Post

Ordered my 67 today. Can't wait to receive it. Flirted with the Denon 4520 and the Anthem MRX 700, because of the correction schemes on both, but prefered the Pioneer. This thing is a bargain.
Had mine for 3 months now. Like you, I did a lot of shopping around but couldn't find anything to beat the price and value given the features and overall quality. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do - definitely no regrets!
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post #1156 of 1453
2/15/13 at 12:20pm
I actually like the amp section almost as much as my old Earthquake Cinenova...never thought I could say that about a receiver.
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post #1157 of 1453
2/15/13 at 12:30pm
I've had mine for less then a week after returning the SC-61. Nothing wrong with the SC-61 (returned to Best Buy after using it for 2 months and paid the difference - $500). I guess I didn't do my homework. I didn't realize that there was no phono input on the 61. Still debated about upgrading - but the added flexibility in zones and a little more power helped in the decision. Very happy with the 67 - but then again I was happy with the 61. Not sure if there are any other substantial improvements. Now I need to start looking for new speakers (two fronts and a center) and a turntable.

Mark
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post #1158 of 1453
2/15/13 at 12:48pm
Have an 8 year old Denon that I am ready to kick to the bedroom. Then I will add an Oppo 103. Eventually I will upgrade to Paradigm Studio 100's, five of them. Life as an empty nester. smile.gif

Mark, it was an SC-61 that led me to the Pioneers. Loved the sound of it. In fact, I have never heard an SC-67. Closest I have come is an SC-65 at best buy.
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post #1159 of 1453
2/15/13 at 1:08pm
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Have an 8 year old Denon that I am ready to kick to the bedroom. Then I will add an Oppo 103. Eventually I will upgrade to Paradigm Studio 100's, five of them. Life as an empty nester. smile.gif

Mark, it was an SC-61 that led me to the Pioneers. Loved the sound of it. In fact, I have never heard an SC-67. Closest I have come is an SC-65 at best buy.

Goalline,

I also have the oppo 103 paired with my sc-67 (with a panny vt50). Great choice for BR when you get there, and again - no regrets!
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post #1160 of 1453
2/15/13 at 1:10pm
Good to know, Ice. I am almost giddy...but next week seems so far away. smile.gif
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post #1161 of 1453
2/15/13 at 1:14pm
Goaline, check their website. Not all stores carry it - in fact they had to order mine. Remember to negotiate, they took of 25% from their price. I would have gotten the 65 - but that also did not have a phono input. It actually started when I auditioned the cm-9's and I mentioned that I purchased the sc-61 two months prior and didn't realize it didn't have a phono input. The manager informed me that a higher model had that feature and asked if I wanted return the receiver and get the 67. I'm glad I auditioned the cm-9's.

Mark
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post #1162 of 1453
2/15/13 at 1:27pm
Indeed, it seems none of the stores around me carry it.

Didn't realize it has a phono input. COOL! I have an outboard phone input, at the moment. I will compare the two to see which produces the better sound.
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post #1163 of 1453
2/15/13 at 4:05pm
I am considering an upgrade from a Denon 3311, to either a SC 67 or a Denon 4520. I have an elite 94 I use in my family room, that I love. The only turn off for me with the Pioneer 67 is that there are not separate crossovers for each speaker. My surrounds are smaller than the fronts and need to be crossed over higher. Or is this not an issue with MCACC? I really don't like to tweak after running calibration, and I have the AS-EQ1 for my subs, so I like to set and forget. The new Audyssey 32 seems to get a lot of love in the forum, is it that much better?
I also like the Zone 4 set up, I have a receiver/5.1 sound and a tv in a bar area, that I currently use a hdmi matrix switch for, but from what I can tell, I can get rid of the matrix switch and let the Pioneer 67 do all the work.
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post #1164 of 1453
2/15/13 at 9:16pm
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Originally Posted by JackVette View Post

I liked AV Navigator. Especially if you are editing input names. Much, much easier.

On the other hand, (unless I was doing something wrong), I was frustrated that you could not edit again after using AV Navigator???

I closed AV Navigator and just wanted to edit some settings. It made me start from the beginning and re-enter everything.

That was a pain....

I played around and found a short cut that apparently works, though I don't know if there is going to be any side effects. This is what I did:
0. Turn on receiver
1. Launch AVN
2. Choose Settings and make sure the IP address is correct.
3. Launch your browser and go to the following URL: (all in one line)
file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/PIONEER%20CORPORATION/AVNavigator%202012.IV/AVNavigator/Wiring_navi/section_235(1).html?lang=en-US

This is essentially the same URL that AVN will take you to for the Input Names screen if you follow the whole wiring section step by step.
The first try may give you the Japanese display for some reason. If you look at the URL on your browser, you will see that "en-US" got lost.
4. Copy and paste to go to the above URL a second time should take you to the English display for the page you want
5. Check mark the devices and enter the names you want
6. Hit Next, takes you to the Power On page
7. Hit Next, takes you to the Detect page
8. Hit Next and at this time it detects your receiver and sets the names you entered
9. Close your browser, or continue to other screens.

It works for me. Report back if you found any side effects.

Edit: AVN remembers your last entries of what you have connected if you have used it already.
Edited by soniky - 2/15/13 at 9:50pm
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post #1165 of 1453
2/15/13 at 9:28pm
Received my 67 today. Need to update firmware via USB.
After unzipping the download file should I copy the unzipped folder to USB or
copy each individual file to USB.
THX
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post #1166 of 1453
2/15/13 at 9:51pm
No folder. All individual files on the root directory of the USB.
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post #1167 of 1453
2/16/13 at 8:14am
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Originally Posted by soniky View Post

I played around and found a short cut that apparently works, though I don't know if there is going to be any side effects. This is what I did:
0. Turn on receiver
1. Launch AVN
2. Choose Settings and make sure the IP address is correct.
3. Launch your browser and go to the following URL: (all in one line)
file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/PIONEER%20CORPORATION/AVNavigator%202012.IV/AVNavigator/Wiring_navi/section_235(1).html?lang=en-US

This is essentially the same URL that AVN will take you to for the Input Names screen if you follow the whole wiring section step by step.
The first try may give you the Japanese display for some reason. If you look at the URL on your browser, you will see that "en-US" got lost.
4. Copy and paste to go to the above URL a second time should take you to the English display for the page you want
5. Check mark the devices and enter the names you want
6. Hit Next, takes you to the Power On page
7. Hit Next, takes you to the Detect page
8. Hit Next and at this time it detects your receiver and sets the names you entered
9. Close your browser, or continue to other screens.

It works for me. Report back if you found any side effects.

Edit: AVN remembers your last entries of what you have connected if you have used it already.

thanks... I'll try this.

Are you saying that AVN Navigator remembers the previous entries? That didn't work for me.

I'll check agin.
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post #1168 of 1453
2/16/13 at 4:55pm
There is a gently used 67 in the classifieds wink.gif
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post #1169 of 1453
2/16/13 at 6:30pm
Just received the 67 and did initial set-up. It was movie night for the kids so we watched Avengers and it sounded fantastic (Klipsch refs. all around & 2 Hsu VTF-15s). HOWEVER, I played a few CDs in "stereo" and they sounded "flat" or "muffled." I don't have any idea why, because the movie sounded superb. Any advice or tips would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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post #1170 of 1453
2/17/13 at 1:46pm
Hi Pioneer folk.

I am investigating what to buy in order to support a 2 (3) zone setup in connected rooms. I have a fairly long description with pictures of what I want to obtain here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1458621/multizone-surroundreciever-advice-needed

I have read through some of this thread (not through all yet), but I think the SC67 (what I belive is the equivalent model SC-LX76/86 here in Europe) maybe fits the bill for what I want to do. I'm hoping some of You in here can confirm, og point out caveats or maybe tips to how I can get this working right.

Executive summary of my thread over there:
  • I want to use the SC-67 for ALL audio out in Zone 2
  • This implies that I want to be able to have sound from TV in Z2 routed through the SC-67 and out through the speakers in Z2
  • I want to be able to independently pass through any digital source in Z1 to Z2 - audio (through speakers driven by SC-67) AND picture

One of my doubts from reading is, if it is possible to have the digital sources' audio played through the speakers driven by the SC-67, or if it can only be passed through the HDMI cable to the TV in Z2, which to me would be a major disadvantage

I'm really hoping the SC-67 [SC-LX76] will be the one I can go for.

Any comments or answers to my ambition and questions (including the one posted in the linked post) ?
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