Originally Posted by davehale
What am I missing here?
actually, you've missed quite a lot, in fact you missed the whole boat!
I strongly suggest you download the product sheets AND owners manuals for both models and compare. Heck, guy, even the web page spec pages will tell you most of what you asked, I said most
The product data sheets AND owners manuals have rear panel pics. Both have removable cords.
Both have advanced MCACC, which has reverb compensation and group delay. Even the web page specs says this
Both have the bass Phase Control, Full Band Phase Control, and even the auto adjusting Phase Control Plus (altho this is not clearly spelled out on the product sheets, if you bothered to look at manuals, in the MCACC and the Audio Settings section, you'll find the answer to your confusion on phase control)
Both have Optimum Surround
Both have Stream Direct (Pioneer has had Stream Direct on all the upper models for YEARS)
and both of these are described in the manual for both models
Contrary to what you posted, the SC-65 has the GUI, album art, IP control, everything you think it doesn't...and you have it backwards on the warranty....the SC-65, being an Elite, has the 2 yr warranty and the 1522 only has 1 yr. It clearly says this on Pioneer's website in the specs section, if you had bothered to check. FYI - ALL Elite models have a 2 year warranty, that's been the case for many many years, one of the distinguishing differences between Elites & Pio's consumer models.
The only item which is not clearly spelled out and never really has been, is your confusion on DSD direct. Both models will either accept DSD direct or convert to PCM. IF you select Pure Direct mode, you will get straight DSD. Although you will lose all MCACC calibration if you do this....no processor in the world can apply room correction or any processing for that matter to a DSD signal, it has to be converted to PCM first, and you will get the PCM sampling of 88.2 or 176.4 depending on what is on the SACD.
I'm one of the very active Pioneer posters here and have owned a number of Pioneer Elite AVR's, including the SC-09 and SC-68. Those who know my posting history, will know that I highly encourage ALL prospective buyers to download the manuals 1st, take time to read thru them.
If you based your assumptions on just looking at the 1st page of the product sheet, you can almost be forgiven for your post, almost....
but you had the rear panel photo, the owners manuals to look at, as well as the specs on their web site. I have no idea how you thought the 65 doesn't have a removable cord, since the empty power socket is clearly shown in the photo!
It even says "power cord" in the very 1st part of the manual - What's In the Box.
If you are new to Pioneer, then you may not know what all these terms mean, but....even the spec page says Optimum Surround - check - for the SC-65.
OK - I've made my point, now it's up to you to read.
The main difference between the 2 and what the extra $1 gets you
is the Elite badge plus the extra yr of warranty. There may be a few minor diffs but you'll have to discover them on your own. I've already taken too much time to verify what I just told you is true.
No offense, but your post is a pile of misinformation and I have to wonder how much reading you did on your own to come to the erroneous ideas you had. I confess to being confused to where & how you came to the conclusion that the lower model had more features than the higher model. It certainly is not borne out by anything on Pioneer's web site nor supporting literature. If a dealer told you these things because they had the 1522 in stock, then shame on them! If not, then you clearly misread a whole lot of information.Edited by ss9001 - 11/2/12 at 10:07am