Official Pioneer SC-68/67 Thread - Page 20

^^
yes, I just checked the manual for the latest Onkyo 5010 flagship. and you are so right

I owe Filmmixer, you & soniky an apology on my thinking that no receiver has this.

here it is for the 5010:


nothing like that exists in any Pioneer receiver or ever has. my hats off to Onkyo for including it. that's a feature not even the $8500 Anthem D2V prepro has (unless I missed that one, too! )

OK - I'm right that Pioneer and Denon don't have but was wrong that no receiver had it. Onkyo does but I agree with you that it's a simple or crude 2 way and can't be compared to what's in the available digital & analog external processors from companies like Bryston, Pass, DEQX, etc. Even a cheap budget unit like Behringer is ~$300-400 from places like Musicians' Friend. kudos to Onkyo

but still skeptical it will do the same job of majority of halfway decent speaker designs

as the manual says: "Select this if you’re using speakers without crossover network"

unless I had some really budget speakers, I'd want to stick with what the speaker company put in them. Of course, looks like you could duplicate what the speaker had, in order to get some benefit from bi-amping.

anyway, Film was right, so were you! I eat humble pie I am wrong on some things on occasion

but the Pioneer still doesn't have this so it's still passive bi-amping.
Edited by ss9001 - 12/11/12 at 2:05pm

I also have to say this...IMHO, I'll take the reliability & stability of a Pioneer & Denon over Onkyo's track record even if they have more DSP on tap

I'd much prefer living without my own crossover to have an HDMI board that can survive at least a year

not today, maybe later this weekend
of all the things in the setup menu, calibration & OSD, exactly what are you interesting in seeing?
Edited by ss9001 - 12/12/12 at 4:57am

no to both. PeterK is right, you need an external phono preamp for your turntable. plug the TT into the preamp, then the preamp into the CD input on the receiver. you can get hi-end ones or you can get budget ones on various web sites, even ebay. try sites like needledoctor, musicdirect, acousticsounds, elusivedisc, places that sell turntables, cartridges. or a lo2cal audio dealer that sells 2 channel.

you cannot use the CD input directly not just because of low volume but you will not get the RIAA equalization which is mandatory for proper freq response from an LP. to cut a record, bass & highs are deliberately cut in the audio mastering so that the grooves are not so demanding that cartridges mistrack or jump. at the preamp end, the EQ is reversed to restore the proper balance of bass & highs. so w/o the RIAA Equalization, your LPs will sound like crapola

the RIAA EQ is a standard in the recording industry which has been used making records for as long as records have been around, 50+ years. every phono preamp and every receiver ever made with a phono input has the RIAA equalization built-in. yours does not.

kind of late since you have the 65 but the 67 & 68 have the proper built-in phono inputs.
Edited by ss9001 - 12/12/12 at 4:59pm

^^
hmmm

mine was 8GB, not partitioned but formatted and it worked just fine. I think the key is formatted no other data on it that could potentially be read.

are you sure you aren't looking at the fact that it worked and inferring what made it work? since no other poster who had problems needed to go to such lengths, I think it's probable that you didn't need to create your separate primary partition. that's asking a whole lot from casual owners and not very likely or logical that Pioneer would create something that required PC hard drive management skills to make it work.

in your case, it might have worked just fine after your deleted the partitions. I can see extra partitions giving the updater fits but not having that small of a partition. Since you deleted all of the existing ones, and only created the one, the receiver only saw the 512 MB one and used it. that doesn't mean you couldn't have successfully installed it using 1 clean, formatted 8GB FAT partition

let's not jump to too many conclusions here. others are getting it to work without re-partitioning the drive.

thank you! you made my point.