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post #871 of 1454
1/20/13 at 5:37am
I got a question concerning the internal DAC's.
What DAC's are used for the rear USB B style input? What about the front A style USB where one would connect a iPod? And the lastly the DAC''s that decode in coming HDMI audio? Are they all the same DAC's are or they different chip sets? Are the Wolfson , Burr Brown , Cirrus Logic , Texas Instruments , Sabre?
I can't seem to find any Info on this anywhere. Years ago Pioneer always listed what chip sets they used , They seemed very proud when they decided to start using Wolfson DAC's.

I tried using the front A USB port with .flac 24/192k files and it played flawlessly off a USB stick. I didn't compare it yet to having my Macbook Pro connected USB to the rear B style USB playing the same song.
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post #872 of 1454
1/20/13 at 6:02am
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^^
I can give you what I know from info I have on the SC-68 and the service manual for the SC-57.

the SC-68 & SC-57 both use asahi-kasei AK4480 DACs for all channels that are used for the main inputs* (*notes below)

*notes:

- the SC-57 had 5 AK4480's. and 1 AK4388 (dedicated for internet radio & ipod/USB front port)
- I don't know if the number of AK4480's in the SC-68 is the same as what's in the SC-57. depends on what DAC they use for the USB-DAC & front port. the AK4388 in the SC-57 doesn't appear to do DSD from its spec sheet & since the front port on the SC-68 can play DSD files, it's possible they upgraded the front port to the 4480 or something else.
- I don't know if the SC-68's USB-DAC port uses a different DAC than the AK4480, since I don't have the SC-68 service manual. it is a separate DAC from the main DAC's based on the info I have but what chip mfg/model is not specified. since it takes the special driver, it's possible that it's different than the 4480 & what's used for front port.

ak4480 DAC (SC-68)_f03e.pdf 567k .pdf file

I think there's a pretty good chance the front & rear USB ports use an upgraded DAC from the SC-57 because of the new capabilities but that can't be proven until someone gets their hands on the service manual for the SC-68. I was hoping I could find an SC-68 service manual by now but no luck yet.

that's the extent of what I know.
Edited by ss9001 - 1/20/13 at 7:23am
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post #873 of 1454
1/20/13 at 8:01am
ss9001
Wrong thread sorry. I have the A100 and sc-67 receivers. thanks
Dave
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post #874 of 1454
1/20/13 at 8:42am
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ss9001
Wrong thread sorry. I have the A100 and sc-67 receivers. thanks
Dave

Hi Dave

np smile.gif I wondered if I missed these doing HD radio wink.gif

have you compared the 2 audio-wise? how well Pioneer mcacc works vs audyssey in your room? anything you can post about how the 2 compare to you, the good & not so good, would be helpful to us all smile.gif
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post #875 of 1454
1/20/13 at 9:39am
hello, i just purchased SC-68, i like it so for. i was trying to load USB DAC driver but it says this system not supported. i have windows 8 machine. any suggestions? i only managed to read first 14 pages and search didnt give me any clues. any help?
Thank you in advance.
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post #876 of 1454
1/20/13 at 9:41am
I wonder if someone can spot what I am doing wrong..

For a few weeks I have been playing around with the USB-DAC and now I am at a point where I want to set up my speaker system correctly. I have Vienna Accoustics Hadyn's which for bookshelf speakers have a pretty wide range, however the guy who sold them to me suggested that I could set up my AVR to 'SMALL' and let the sub handle the low end frequencies. He thought the sub might handle my long room better. This is the setup I used to use with my old Denon AVR

So I have gone into manual speaker settings and set my fronts to small. I have made sure the sub is enabled. However nothing comes out of the sub. I have played with the crossover setting on the sub but still nothing.

I am using a Maplshade USB to S/PDIF adapter, feeding into the COAX1 input.

I have tried playing tracks which I know have a lot of low bass but still I get nothing out of the sub. I know the sub is working because it works fine if I switch to playing a SACD in my Sony BDP S570 Blu Ray player.

My sub is plugged into the 'Subwoofer 1' output, just under the Adapter port. I have also tried connecting it to the 'Subwoofer' output under the Zone connectors but it doesn't help.

EDIT: My setup is 5.1. I have not re-run mcacc, but should that be necessary just because I have changed my fronts from Large to Small for the sub to be enabled?

EDIT2:
I have now re-run MCACC and it set my fronts to Large. So, I have gone into Manual Speaker setup and changed the fronts to SMALL.

So my questions are:

1. Should I just trust MCACC's decision and leave my fronts set to LARGE?
2. If I do decide I want the fronts set to SMALL, how can I run MCACC again to calibrate my setup with the fronts now forced to SMALL?
3. Why when my fronts are set to SMALL (in manual SP setup) is there no sound out of my sub? (when using two channel audio over COAX1 input)

It is almost as if the sub is only enabled when I have a multi-channel source, but I cant imagine the SC-68 is supposed to behave like this. I would have thought that it should split out the lower frequencies and send to the sub when I am feeding it with a stereo source, isn't this what the 'Small/Large' thing is supposed to be all about?

Also, I need to read the section in the manual again about MCACC as I would like to have different memory settings for the different speaker configurations I am experimenting with. I think it should be possible,

Am I missing something?
Edited by bbear - 1/20/13 at 10:58am
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post #877 of 1454
1/20/13 at 10:52am
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hello, i just purchased SC-68, i like it so for. i was trying to load USB DAC driver but it says this system not supported. i have windows 8 machine. any suggestions? i only managed to read first 14 pages and search didnt give me any clues. any help?
Thank you in advance.

are you saying the driver didn't install or that the SC-68 wasn't recognized by the media player?

I highly recommend calling Pioneer support even though you may get an incorrect answer. I suspect it's Win 8 or not installing because of user access control & admin rights. did you try right clicking on the driver exe file and selecting install as admin or setting up an admin profile in Windows? if you tried that and you get the message, I suspect the driver wasn't tested to work with W8. obviously, it was written before Win8 came out. but I'm guessing....several had installation problems but as far as I can recall none got an "unsupported" message.
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post #878 of 1454
1/20/13 at 10:57am
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My sub is plugged into the 'Subwoofer 1' output, just under the Adapter port. I have also tried connecting it to the 'Subwoofer' output under the Zone connectors but it doesn't help.

Sub 1 in the preamp section under the adapter port is correct. you definitely do NOT want the zone 2 sub jack wink.gif that's for a sub in zone 2 only and does nothing for the main zone.

that part I can answer right away smile.gif later for maybe some questions.
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post #879 of 1454
1/20/13 at 11:04am
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

Sub 1 in the preamp section under the adapter port is correct. you definitely do NOT want the zone 2 sub jack wink.gif that's for a sub in zone 2 only and does nothing for the main zone.

that part I can answer right away smile.gif later for maybe some questions.

Thanks Steve, I thought that was the right jack. I only tried the other one as when I first had the SC-68 and run the wizzard the closest setup to my simple 5.1 was one which used a zone, it told me to connect the sub to that zone jack (which at the time made no sense to me)

Now, I just run MCACC and although it starts by assuming I have a 9.2 system, it does correctly figure out what speakers I have.

I just updated my previous post BTW. I still cant get sound out the sub when I set my fronts to Small (or at least that's the case when I have stereo source, with multi-channel source (SACD) I do get sound out the sub) frown.gif
Edited by bbear - 1/20/13 at 11:39am
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post #880 of 1454
1/20/13 at 12:12pm
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I just updated my previous post BTW. I still cant get sound out the sub when I set my fronts to Small (or at least that's the case when I have stereo source, with multi-channel source (SACD) I do get sound out the sub) frown.gif

Reading the manual again I see that there is not only 'YES' and 'NO' settings for the sub but also a 'PLUS' setting. I will try setting my fronts to 'SMALL' and my sub to 'PLUS' and then see if I get sound out of my sub when using stereo source.

If this works, would it then possible to run MCACC after changing the speaker settings manually?

I still wonder though if I should trust the original Full Auto MCACC results and leave my fronts set to 'LARGE'.

Here is the SW (sub) section from the manual:

"SW - LFE signals and bass frequencies of channels set to SMALL are output from the subwoofer when YES is selected. Choose the PLUS setting if you want the subwoofer to output bass sound continuously or you want deeper bass (the bass frequencies that would normally come out the front and center speakers are also routed to the subwoofer). If you did not connect a subwoofer choose NO (the bass frequencies are output from other speakers).
— If you have a subwoofer and like lots of bass, it may seem logical to select LARGE for your front speakers
and PLUS for the subwoofer. This may not, however, yield the best bass results. Depending on the speaker placement of your room you may actually experience a decrease in the amount of bass due low frequency cancellations. In this case, try changing the position or direction of speakers. If you can’t get good results, listen to the bass response with it set to PLUS and YES or the front speakers set to LARGE and SMALL alternatively and let your ears judge which sounds best. If you’re having problems, the easiest option is to route all the bass sounds to the subwoofer by selecting SMALL for the front speakers.
If you select NO for the subwoofer the front speakers will automatically be fixed to LARGE. Also, the center, sur- round, surround back, front height and front wide speakers can’t be set to LARGE if the front speakers are set to SMALL. In this case, all bass frequencies are sent to the subwoofer."
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post #881 of 1454
1/20/13 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

are you saying the driver didn't install or that the SC-68 wasn't recognized by the media player?

I highly recommend calling Pioneer support even though you may get an incorrect answer. I suspect it's Win 8 or not installing because of user access control & admin rights. did you try right clicking on the driver exe file and selecting install as admin or setting up an admin profile in Windows? if you tried that and you get the message, I suspect the driver wasn't tested to work with W8. obviously, it was written before Win8 came out. but I'm guessing....several had installation problems but as far as I can recall none got an "unsupported" message.

Thank you Steve,
it took an awful long time even after the isntasheild disappeared.
used the windows compatibility setting xp service pack3 after restarting the computer.
finally showed up as a sound card.
so it works with windows 8.
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post #882 of 1454
1/20/13 at 1:10pm
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...so it works with windows 8.

great! glad it finally worked for you smile.gif
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post #883 of 1454
1/20/13 at 2:07pm
I got my SC68 on Friday.

I have been obsessed with getting everything hooked up, listening to music and watching movies.

I'm loving how it sounds and how great my SACD's and Blu Rays sound.

I do have a couple of usability questions / complaints....

First...

I have been using Harmony remotes for many years. I have the family trained to just use the one buttong activities and they have been happy.

It seems that although there are a wealth of HDMI inputs on the SC68, they all do not have a corresponding IR command?

For instance, input 4, 6, and 7 do not have a discreet IR code. I certainly understand how there is not enough buttons on the remote for them, but I didn't see a code in the database.

Second....

I liked being able to made setting and assignment edits with the AVNavigator. It took me a while to figure out that I had to go through the network "tutorial" before I could make the edits. It was A LOT easier to edit input names using AVNavigator than using the remote. I liked that.

But it looks like those settings cannot be just edited? It seems like I have to start all over to get to the edit screen.

Anyway, I'm loving the unit and looking forward to playing more and more.
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post #884 of 1454
1/20/13 at 4:14pm
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It seems that although there are a wealth of HDMI inputs on the SC68, they all do not have a corresponding IR command?

For instance, input 4, 6, and 7 do not have a discreet IR code. I certainly understand how there is not enough buttons on the remote for them, but I didn't see a code in the database.

I also have been struggling with setting up my Harmony remote to work with the SC-68. I have a Harmony One and had problems programming it to select the USB-DAC. However, in this instance although there was no IR code to select the USB-DAC directly, I was able to select the USB/IPOD input, then get the remote to send the code for INPUT NEXT.

I have noticed though that it often does not work so I end up using the Help function of the remote to send the IR code sequence a 2nd time. Maybe I need to program the remote to insert some delays between sending the two commands. Also I suspect there needs to be a delay programmed into the remote following the initial turning on of the SC-68, I think that I should be able to program ths step into the Harmony One
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post #885 of 1454
1/20/13 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

no, sorry. Pioneer does not use independent crossovers. only 1 global crossover. that has been their philosophical approach for a long time.

Many thanks sir smile.gif

I just set all my speakers to small with 50Hz xover coz I'm using Goldenear Triton 2 for my fronts with built in subwoofers. Also integrated an SVS SB12nsd to my center through the center preout. Hopefully my front-wides and surrounds wouldn't be stressed that much biggrin.gif
I just don't want to lose that midbass punch cool.gif

Anyway another question, can I use any USB wifi adapter?
Thinking of getting this USB adapter...

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post #886 of 1454
1/20/13 at 5:03pm
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Anyway another question, can I use any USB wifi adapter?
Thinking of getting this USB adapter...

You would need to check with Pioneer support, but my understanding is that the USB ports on the SC-67/68 are for streaming specific types of media files only (apart from one USB port on the back which is for powering the PIoneer Ethernet to wifi adapter.

I use a Netgear Ethernet to wifi adapter which works really well with my Netgear R6300 router. I posted details earlier in this thread. The Netgear adapter costs about 1/2 that of the Pioneer one.

I hope this helps.
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post #887 of 1454
1/20/13 at 5:18pm
Any advise on the remote control? The included pioneer remote is alright, even though it is back lit.
The ipad app is good but i couldnt find anywhere to switch hdmi outputs controls nor i could find any where to input numbers or letters to setup pandora accounts etc. i eneded up using roomie remote but roomie remote doesnt give some of the nice shortcuts pioneer ipad app remote gives me.
I had no problem with my onkyo cotrols using factory remote control reflecting IR blaster off of the projector screen (my equipments are at the back of the seating position up in the balcony/library in the middle of the 20' high family room ceiling.). The pioneer factory remote is just not reliable for some reason.
I dont know what part number is for ir extender 3.5 jack cable for pioneer is? I tried my motorola ir extention cable and it didnt work.
I just dont wanna go harmony route and roomie dont have all the buttons that i can see. I have too many ipads and iphones in the house.

Over all, the sound quality on this reciver is just great and thats what matters the most.
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post #888 of 1454
1/20/13 at 5:34pm
If we using USB-DAC as a sound card, Is there a player that can make regular DTS-HD 7.1 become DTS-HD 11.2?
I have set a 11.1 speakers in my SC-68 but wide and height couldn't work simultanuosly.
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post #889 of 1454
1/20/13 at 5:43pm
Sure ss9001,
I have a Pioneer SC-67 with an OPPO 103 and 2 front KEF Reference 201-2 monitors on stands w/small sub in my small room with my Sony XBR 970
I have a Denon A100 with an OPPO 103 Tyler Acoustics Lyndhurst towers in front and JBL 100's in the rear with a HSU VTF-15H sub in my large open family room for my 5.1 with my Sony XBR 960.
I use HDMI wherever possible. As you can tell from the above setup I cannot do comparisons due to the nature of the rooms/speakers. I am all about convenience and features; not a critical listener. Before these, the last time a bought a receiver was in 1988 with the Pioneer Stereo Amp and Stereo Processor so therefore my age is starting to show. Sold these 2 on ebay for the exact price I bought this Pioneer SC-67 for. Both are great sounding and no sound issues at all. I have to give the Denon the nod for its technological prowess and a great GUI to fiddle with -still doing it in fact. The XT32 is a dream and blends well with my sub and easy trimming of all the speakers one way or the other. Its remote is very well laid out at least to me is much easier to use in the dark. The MCACC is 5 times easier to use and a 1 button approach . I just can't get used to the remote implimentation due to having to turn on the lights to see what I am doing. Also Pioneer needs to get on board with updating its Pandora screen as it is behind the times. Other than this it would be unfair to compare sound as 2 speakers in a small room would have an advantage over 6 speakers in a large open room for clarity/resolution. I probably would have gotten a second Denon except for the fact that Pioneer has promised AIFF/ALAC gapless and Denon has not with my A100 and I need ALAC as my OPPOs and Denon do not. The speaker icons incoming and outgoing on the Denon have been very useful to me without having to guess incoming signals on the front. I got both of these as I am now retired and needed something to do. By the way HD Radio is great in the morning on the Denon, although my HD tuner may be going bad.
Dave
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post #890 of 1454
1/20/13 at 8:08pm
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I got my SC68 delivered yesterday. I got a great price from an authorized dealer and UPS shipping got it here quickly.

I had a Denon 5803 before and I'm VERY happy with how the Pioneer sounds.

I'm having a strange problem and I'm hoping I could get some guidance.....

My TV is a 70" Sony Grand Wega without HDMI ports, but the connection from the SC68 to the TV with a HDMI to DVI cable worked fine.

I have my cable box connected to the SC68 via HDMI. But the SC68 won't produce any sound from the cable box.

I made sure the Cable box was sending audio by connecting the HDMI cable to a 32" TV I had.
I made sure the port on the SC68 was good by connecting my OPPO to the port.
I made sure the cable was good by swapping the OPPO cable.

I also tried using the Coax as well as optical cable.

No matter what I do the SC68 didn't decode any sound.

Then, with the TV off, I turned on the SC68 and there was sound from the cable box. I could change channels, etc, and I got sound.

But.... If I turn on the TV sound wil stay on for a while sometimes. If I change channels, the sound goes away.

I can replicate this almost at will.

Any thoughts? I tried just about all I can think of for troubleshooting.....

Jack

I recently had a similar issue and it was driving me nuts. But finally figured out that I must of accidentally hit the HDMI OUT button on the remote, which switched to primary video and audio to HDMI OUT 2. Be sure your using HDMI OUT 1 for your TV if you want audio and video. Also be sure the HDMI OUT setting on the receiver is set to 1 (or 2 if you prefer to use HDMI OUT 2 as your main video and audio). I think the bottom line is the receiver's settings and the HDMI OUT you are using have to be in sync. I hope this helps.
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post #891 of 1454
1/20/13 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by inorick View Post

If we using USB-DAC as a sound card, Is there a player that can make regular DTS-HD 7.1 become DTS-HD 11.2?
I have set a 11.1 speakers in my SC-68 but wide and height couldn't work simultanuosly.

According to Chris Walker's (of Pioneer) post on 11/28/12 the USB-DAC only supports two channel audio files
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post #892 of 1454
1/20/13 at 8:19pm
By the way, the remote control does have a back light function. The button is on the bottom row all the way over to the right side where you'll see a light bulb icon. The location makes it easy to find in the dark. It took me a while to discover this.
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post #893 of 1454
1/20/13 at 10:38pm
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I recently had a similar issue and it was driving me nuts. But finally figured out that I must of accidentally hit the HDMI OUT button on the remote, which switched to primary video and audio to HDMI OUT 2. Be sure your using HDMI OUT 1 for your TV if you want audio and video. Also be sure the HDMI OUT setting on the receiver is set to 1 (or 2 if you prefer to use HDMI OUT 2 as your main video and audio). I think the bottom line is the receiver's settings and the HDMI OUT you are using have to be in sync. I hope this helps.

Too funny, as I just had the same experience when I had to lug my SC-09 in to the dealer for a F/W update, and slid my SC-68 in the HT rack, for 5.1 duties, until the susano was ready.

Well the x-box and oppo output worked fine, but I could not get both sound and pic from my dish box, and it drove me nuts... just a bit of tequila was consumed trying to figure it out, but I never did, until reading this post.

The SC-68 is now back at streaming (2-channel) duties for multi-zones, and the 09 is back in the HT rack and all is good now, and just in time for the NFC/AFC championship games.

Btw, the new Pio Class D amps are every bit as good if not a bit better than the sound produced from the 09 -at least with my speakers (MK-150s) and to my ear. Can't wait to break the news to my trouble shooting (tequila drinking) support crew.
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post #894 of 1454
1/21/13 at 12:43am
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I wonder if someone can spot what I am doing wrong..

For a few weeks I have been playing around with the USB-DAC and now I am at a point where I want to set up my speaker system correctly. I have Vienna Accoustics Hadyn's which for bookshelf speakers have a pretty wide range, however the guy who sold them to me suggested that I could set up my AVR to 'SMALL' and let the sub handle the low end frequencies. He thought the sub might handle my long room better. This is the setup I used to use with my old Denon AVR

So I have gone into manual speaker settings and set my fronts to small. I have made sure the sub is enabled. However nothing comes out of the sub. I have played with the crossover setting on the sub but still nothing.

I am using a Maplshade USB to S/PDIF adapter, feeding into the COAX1 input.

I have tried playing tracks which I know have a lot of low bass but still I get nothing out of the sub. I know the sub is working because it works fine if I switch to playing a SACD in my Sony BDP S570 Blu Ray player.

My sub is plugged into the 'Subwoofer 1' output, just under the Adapter port. I have also tried connecting it to the 'Subwoofer' output under the Zone connectors but it doesn't help.

EDIT: My setup is 5.1. I have not re-run mcacc, but should that be necessary just because I have changed my fronts from Large to Small for the sub to be enabled?

EDIT2:
I have now re-run MCACC and it set my fronts to Large. So, I have gone into Manual Speaker setup and changed the fronts to SMALL.

So my questions are:

1. Should I just trust MCACC's decision and leave my fronts set to LARGE?
2. If I do decide I want the fronts set to SMALL, how can I run MCACC again to calibrate my setup with the fronts now forced to SMALL?
3. Why when my fronts are set to SMALL (in manual SP setup) is there no sound out of my sub? (when using two channel audio over COAX1 input)

It is almost as if the sub is only enabled when I have a multi-channel source, but I cant imagine the SC-68 is supposed to behave like this. I would have thought that it should split out the lower frequencies and send to the sub when I am feeding it with a stereo source, isn't this what the 'Small/Large' thing is supposed to be all about?

Also, I need to read the section in the manual again about MCACC as I would like to have different memory settings for the different speaker configurations I am experimenting with. I think it should be possible,

Am I missing something?

I wonder if the problem is related to using two channel audion over coaxial? After running Full MCACC, then run auto MCACC and select keep speakers that you changed to small.
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post #895 of 1454
1/21/13 at 4:56am
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Originally Posted by gr8sound View Post

I recently had a similar issue and it was driving me nuts. But finally figured out that I must of accidentally hit the HDMI OUT button on the remote, which switched to primary video and audio to HDMI OUT 2. Be sure your using HDMI OUT 1 for your TV if you want audio and video. Also be sure the HDMI OUT setting on the receiver is set to 1 (or 2 if you prefer to use HDMI OUT 2 as your main video and audio). I think the bottom line is the receiver's settings and the HDMI OUT you are using have to be in sync. I hope this helps.

Thank you...

No, its not that for sure.

I'm hoping its a bad cable box.

As soon as my wife and daughter finish watching the shows recorded on that box, I'll swap it out.

The only other thing I can think of is that the HDMI cable is problematic....

There is a 10' cable from the Cable Box to the receiver and another 10' cable (HDMI ---> DVI) to the TV....

Its the strangest thing. If the TV is on, I get no sound. With the TV off, I get sound.

I checked every setting.

I'm counting on my old cable box as the problem.
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post #896 of 1454
1/21/13 at 5:23am
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Any advise on the remote control? The included pioneer remote is alright, even though it is back lit.

I think the Pioneer remote is terrible (along with 99% of other AVR remotes). But I'm sure they expect everybody to use their own remote. I highly recommend a URC. I use the MX-980/MRF-350/RFX-250 combo. I'm convinced that is the best remote combo on earth. Those components are very expensive brand new but I've been seeing some great deals for used components on Ebay. I recently bought a complete second setup on Ebay for a total of $200. That's not much more than a new Harmony and FAR more powerful. Now, the caveat... these are professional remotes, which means:

1. You will not get any direct support from URC, however their forums are pretty good.
2. You may have trouble getting your hands on the setup software. URC only gives it to installers.
3. They are not trivial to program. I would say that if you have no trouble with the harmony software then you have a decent chance at learning how to program a URC. It will take lots of patience. Once it's working, though, wow. You'll be glad you spent the time and money.
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post #897 of 1454
1/21/13 at 5:31am
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Originally Posted by JackVette View Post

If the TV is on, I get no sound. With the TV off, I get sound.

just for the record, are you getting video to the TV over HDMI >>DVI? does the HDMI LED on the receiver flash when TV is on?
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post #898 of 1454
1/21/13 at 5:42am
I am considering the purchase of the SC-68, SC-65, or last years models SC-57/55. Is the fact that the SC-65 does not bare the Air Studios logo a big deal? Aren't the amps used in the SC-68 and SC-65 basically the same? In short, is the Air Studios treatment a major plus, marketing fluff, or somewhere between the two?
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post #899 of 1454
1/21/13 at 7:05am
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

just for the record, are you getting video to the TV over HDMI >>DVI? does the HDMI LED on the receiver flash when TV is on?

Yes, I get video.

Yes, the HDMI light is on the SC68.

Its very strange. If you look at the display on the SC68 the decode information shows for a second.

For instance, it will show that there is a 5.1 source. Then it goes away on the display.
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post #900 of 1454
1/21/13 at 7:07am
Question: Can I listen to an analog signal on Zone 2 without enabling the primary system (Zone 1?). I just want to listen to CDs in Zone 2 and not having to have the main system on.

Second: The Pioneer remote sucks BIG time. Lousy layout, teeny text and the red backlight is useless.
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