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post #1 of 6
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I have an issue trying to setup a local network for my brother to play his media around the house.

A summary of his setup:
-HTPC with 2 external drives attached with his movies (next project is setting up an unraid server for his media)
-The external hard drives are setup as network drives
-HTPC is networked wirelessly to his router (802.11n)
-Laptop is also on the same router wirelessly (also 802.11n)

He is able to access these drives on his laptop but it is very slow and will not play properly. If he copies the files to his laptop from the network drives (which are those external hard drives) it copies at around 2 MB/s. If I look at the wireless settings the Laptop is transmitting at the speed of ~150 Mbps and the desktop is ~30 Mbps. He does not have the option of having either computer wired to the router.

I'm trying to troubleshoot where the bottleneck is that is not letting him play bluray movies smoothly. Is it the host computer with the external networked drives, the router, or the laptop? Is 30 Mbps sufficient for playing 1080p movies across the network?
post #2 of 6
Pretty much everyone will tell you wifi is no good for hd. Sure some people will say they do it fine. But it's just not reliable enough.

Have you tried to transfer a file from the internal drive of the desktop? To compare that to the drives connected via usb. Also if your connected at 30mbps the max transfer speed would only be about 4mb/s. So your close to that.

Theoretically 30mbps should be enough for most blu rays. But I'm sure your not getting it constantly.

Your limited by your slowest device. Which sounds like the desktop. You would definitely have better luck if the pc was also connected via wireless n like the laptop. But there's no guarantees.

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post #3 of 6
30 Mbps is your link rate. You can cut that number in half.

Your file transfer is a crude speed test. It shows 16Mbps. Your desktop wifi connection it just too slow.
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

Pretty much everyone will tell you wifi is no good for hd. Sure some people will say they do it fine. But it's just not reliable enough.
Have you tried to transfer a file from the internal drive of the desktop? To compare that to the drives connected via usb. Also if your connected at 30mbps the max transfer speed would only be about 4mb/s. So your close to that.
Theoretically 30mbps should be enough for most blu rays. But I'm sure your not getting it constantly.
Your limited by your slowest device. Which sounds like the desktop. You would definitely have better luck if the pc was also connected via wireless n like the laptop. But there's no guarantees.
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Yeah I know HD + Wifi is not ideal but without getting to much into the details of his setup this is our only option for now. In the future when he builds some type of NAS a wired option will be available. I thought about testing the internal drive but I realized that since he desktop is able to read from the USB drives fine (no playback issues) I could rule that out as the bottleneck. Also the desktop is connected on wireless n and has full bars of reception so I'm not sure why it's link speed is so low... I may need to look more into the adapter that we are using as a possible problem.
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Originally Posted by Andy_Steb View Post

30 Mbps is your link rate. You can cut that number in half.
Your file transfer is a crude speed test. It shows 16Mbps. Your desktop wifi connection it just too slow.

That clears up a lot of confusion I had between what that link speed vs actual throughput. My thought on the file transfer is that if I'm transferring a movie and it is going to take greater time to transfer then the length of the movie does that mean it wont have smooth playback? I know this is a crude test (since speed can fluctuate with wireless) but is that correct in theory?
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Originally Posted by eakmanrq View Post

That clears up a lot of confusion I had between what that link speed vs actual throughput. My thought on the file transfer is that if I'm transferring a movie and it is going to take greater time to transfer then the length of the movie does that mean it wont have smooth playback? I know this is a crude test (since speed can fluctuate with wireless) but is that correct in theory?

Well yes, if it takes 2 hours to transfer a 1 1/2 hour movie, then there is no way you can stream it. Not only is the wifi connection not constant, the movies have a variable bit rate. Your going to want twice the throughput as the bitrate of the movie.

It is not normally wise to spend a lot of money to improve your wireless network to stream Bluray. Just because it is so hard to do. But if you have a junk router, It is nice to have a nice router even in a wired network. Get the router up high on a bookshelf out in the open. On the desktop machine, A quality card with remote antennas will blow away some usb stick.

You might consider powerline adapters for the desktop.
post #6 of 6
Wifi transmission can be affected by many things:
1. Take a look whether there are neighbors using same channel or adjacent channels. 11n uses at least 20Mhz wide bandwidth and each channel spacing is only 5.5Mhz. So usable channel is really only channel 1, 6 and 11. 5Ghz dual band hardware helps.
2. Take a look whether there are other 2.4Ghz devices around the house such as house phones or another computer. If there are, place the Wifi base-station in direct view of the HTPC and no 2.4Ghz device in between.
3. Make sure there are no passive metallic objects such as metal post directly in between the HTPC Wifi NIC and the base station.
4. Not all hardware work as advertised. Changing to a different design sometimes fix the problem. I changed from a Cisco AE1000 to AE2500 USB NIC and the problem went away. Best antennae coupling is with both vertical at roughly same level. Signal pattern from dipole antennae are like big donut or hoola hoop with transmit antenna in the center. Some designs use patch antennae and hard to say which orientation is best.

I have a HTPC using dual band but movie still lags. I thought the problem was with a main ethernet cable run between two floors but it wasn't. 1Gb ethernet requires all pairs in the cable working but with a missing pair, 100Mb would still work. However my cable run checked out with a tester.

For item 3 above, that gray post at left front did block Wifi but moving the NIC (black vertical stick) to the left solved the problem.

Edited by dksc318 - 7/29/12 at 3:50pm
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