Originally Posted by BiggAW
Originally Posted by JHBrandt
My original comment was based on the 2-tuner TiVo Premiere, which does OTA and Clear QAM. If you have a Premiere you are still pretty much at the mercy of your cable co.
But the thing about technology is it changes so fast, it's hard to stay caught up. My understanding is the newer 4-tuner CableCARD TiVos can stream protected content to the new TiVo Minis, much as WMC streams to extenders. So TiVo's new products have erased that advantage from WMC.
TiVo does not support ClearQAM. There is a way to get it to work with a CableCard and then pulling the CableCard, but that's not supported, it's just people on TCF screwing around to see what will work.
says otherwise, but I'm guessing you're right and they were wrong. (They may have meant that the Premiere will receive
clear QAM, but duh - so will any CableCARD-equipped tuner!)
But that actually makes things worse for the TiVo! If I only have basic cable and I'm lucky enough to have it in the clear (increasingly rare nowadays, but quite common when the Premiere was released), why does TiVo insist that I pay my cable co. an extra buck or two each month for a CableCARD I shouldn't even need?
It's a small thing, but it still adds to the cost side of the TiVo. And it reinforces my comment that with TiVo, you're pretty much at the mercy of your cable company. You need their CableCARD, their tuning adapter, and if they want to flag the entire universe copy-once - even OTA channels - well, at least one Premiere can stream to another
Of course, that's a big reason I recommend going dual OTA+cable, but if you want four tuners, two Premieres (and two CableCards, apparently) is your best option; yet the TCO is easily over $1K and well above the TCO of an HTPC with WMC 7 plus an XBox extender.
TiVo's main advantage is that you don't have to pay that $1K+ all at once. You can buy two Premieres for a modest cost and just pay monthly for the subscriptions, CableCARDs, etc. And setting up WMC and an extender is no trivial task, even for a technically savvy person. But those who've gotten WMC 7 set up and working are better off if they have OTA, better off if they have cable, and better off if they have both.