Originally Posted by Aero 1
Speak for yourself, that's it if you are not speaking for yourself. I get about 50 OTA channels with about 20 that are "usefull". I have two OTA premieres and most of the time 3 tuners are recording at the same time, with 4 tuners going off a few times every week.
There are NOWHERE near 50 OTAs. There's basically 5, CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC, and PBS, plus duplicates and subchannels, none of which are useful, if only because they look like dog poo. So that leaves you with 5 channels. I guess if you watch a TON of primetime network TV, you could run into conflicts with a two-tuner box, but it's sure a lot easier to have issues when you're getting 60+ channels with cable (my system is running ~70HD's engineering count, some Comcast systems are running ~110 engineering count, most users don't get all of them).
Originally Posted by Charles R
Actually, to a large degree the less channels the more important additional tuners. Especially with OTA (only). With less selection it hurts more to miss something and OTA has a lot less repeats than pay-TV where you can pick it up later that day or later on.
I guess if you watch a metric boatload of network shows, you could run into an issue. Other than slurping in all the local news broadcasts before a storm, I can't think of a time when I have had more than one, MAYBE 2 tuners tied up on network programming. Usually most of them are on cable stuff.
Originally Posted by mhufnagel
Where do you live where you only get 5 ota channels? Most of the places with such a pathetic ota line-up don't have much in the way of cable either and most people sign-up with satellite (making Tivo's not so good). Also, believe it or not, there are people who don't want to pay for cable, so the Tivo Mini is worthless to them.
I can pick-up 33 channels (including subs). Although only 17 are non-religious/lp channels.
Hartford-New Haven Connecticut. I actually get one or two where I'm living now, but where I was before, I was able to put all 5 together with an indoor antenna when I was lucky (WTNH-DT, ABC, had issues being on VHF). The additional channels that we did receive were just garbage channels, HSN, Spanish, etc, etc. There basically are the 4 networks plus PBS anywhere in the US that has good OTA, with some areas only having some of the 5. Someone needs to tell the OTA broadcasters to dump all the subchannels too. It would be so nice to have the full 19mbps MPEG-2 stream of the channel, and not have a good 5mbps completely wasted with garbage channels like NBC Sports (get cable if you want it), Weather Plus (WTF?), and PBS2 (some good shows but it looks like crap, so it's not useful).
Originally Posted by JHBrandt
The rest of you can continue to engage BiggAW in conversation if you wish, but I just "plonked" (blocked) him. He had some interesting points at first, but at this point he's just become a troll. I swear if WMC regrew hair, took off excess pounds, and made you irresistible to attractive twenty-somethings of the opposite sex he'd still
be telling us all to buy TiVos instead.
And 5 OTA channels? Seriously? When did he last check his OTA lineup: 1980?
In DFW we have about 76
unique OTA channels; 45 in English. About 25 "good" ones (meaning aside from religious, shopping & infomercials; YMMV). 10 are in HD.
Obviously DFW is one of the big markets and sure, it's still nowhere near the hundreds of channels you can get on cable or satellite; but OTA offers far more choice now than it did when most of us grew up.
If MCE addressed all the problems that I have with it, then I would use it. As it currently stands, it has too many issues with it's overall UX.