Originally Posted by BriscoCountyJr
Purportedly the 2012 models (E) are not as bright as last year's (D) models.
Might be a side effect of Samsung's changes in the newer models to reduce or eliminate the FBR issues on the 2011 (D) models.
It really depends, it would seem, on the size of the set. With the smaller 51" it appears that one is able to get considerably higher brightness compared to the Panasonic 2012 ST/GT/VT Plasmas:
. I quote:
"The E8000 can also boast a considerably higher maximum light output and we were comfortably able to get around 140cd/m2 in movie mode, without clipping.
" When they talk about the "considerably higher maximum light output" they are comparing to the 50" ST50. This seemingly is at the expense of a higher mll (call it 0.05 cd/m2). In their review of the ST50 here:
(which has a considerably lower mll) they said this:"Panasonic claim to have boosted the brightness on their plasmas this year and whilst the P50ST50B was certainly brighter in its calibrated mode, it still struggled to get above 90 cd/m2 and was thus robbed of some of its dynamic range."
Now I know the question/statement was as compared to last year's Samsung models and here is the 51" (size seems important when it comes to mll and maximum light output at least when it comes to Samsung this year)
http://www.avforums.com/reviews/Samsung-D8000-%28PS51D8000%29-51-Inch-3D-Plasma-TV-Review_192/Review.html"So with that in mind, the PS51D8000 measured using our Klein K-10 in dark surroundings and a calibrated mode produced 0.06cd/m2 at 0IRE and 115.47 cd/m2 at 100IRE (approximately 1,925:1 on/off ratio) using standard window patterns from our Sencore MP500."
AVforums have a review of the 60" E8000 coming shortly and that will show I strongly suspect a lower mll but also a lower peak brightness
Another very good review in terms of both the reviewer and the set is here:
I quote: "One of the first things we did was pull out our Klein K-10 meter and compare the peak brightness of the different modes. The “Movie” mode, which is usually our first port of call due to it being the most accurate out-of-the-box mode, comes with its [Cell Light] control set to 20, its highest setting. In this configuration, the Samsung PS60E6500 was putting out a peak white of 100 cd/m2 (measured with a standard window test pattern).
In comparison, the “Standard” mode can go as high as 172 cd/m2, and while we don’t recommend watching the E6500 like this, it does mean that that this mode has a wider range of applications for users who might want to watch in a brighter room. "
This was the 60" E6500 (should not really be much different than the 60" E8000 in terms of performance.
So take your pick - larger (60"+) Samsung and you get a far better mll but a poorer maximum light output - at least in movie mode - but in the 51" E6500/E8000 higher light output than last year and higher light output than the ST50.Edited by PeterG - 8/7/12 at 2:43am