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post #271 of 496
9/28/12 at 8:35am
AGI called and the first pre-order units are in today and Monday
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post #272 of 496
9/28/12 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by seloc1 View Post

Let the games begin. Projector People show the 8000 as "in stock". Visual Apex still shows "preorder".

Fek...I was one of the first to preorder at VA and I haven't heard anything...calling now.
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post #273 of 496
9/28/12 at 9:22am
Just ordered from PP and canceled VA. VA didn't have anything in stock and PPL did. Gave VA a chance to keep me by giving discount but they chose not to. I was told at preorder they would be first in receiving shipments...talk is cheap.
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post #274 of 496
9/28/12 at 9:41am
Now I hope all you lucky few to receive their new 8000's shortly are generous enough to give a first impression. Really would like to know how much the brightness,3D, and the black levels have improved over the 7000.
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post #275 of 496
9/28/12 at 10:44am
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Originally Posted by seloc1 View Post

Now I hope all you lucky few to receive their new 8000's shortly are generous enough to give a first impression. Really would like to know how much the brightness,3D, and the black levels have improved over the 7000.

as well as input lag for gamers!

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post #276 of 496
9/28/12 at 10:47am
Mine has shipped out from Audio General. Got tracking to confirm. They did honor the $2599 price.....SWEET DEAL!

Also have a Denon AVR-4520CI shipping Monday. Gonna have a busy few weeks playing with my new toys.
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post #277 of 496
9/28/12 at 10:48am
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Originally Posted by Stoma Kalos View Post

Just ordered from PP and canceled VA. VA didn't have anything in stock and PPL did. Gave VA a chance to keep me by giving discount but they chose not to. I was told at preorder they would be first in receiving shipments...talk is cheap.

Did PP match AG's price? They said they would match the $2899 AG price, not their $2599 a few weeks ago when I asked.
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post #278 of 496
9/28/12 at 10:50am
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Originally Posted by RajeeK View Post

Mine has shipped out from Audio General. Got tracking to confirm. They did honor the $2599 price.....SWEET DEAL!
Also have a Denon AVR-4520CI shipping Monday. Gonna have a busy few weeks playing with my new toys.

That is a sweet deal. Congrats !
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post #279 of 496
9/28/12 at 11:27am
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Originally Posted by RajeeK View Post

Mine has shipped out from Audio General. Got tracking to confirm. They did honor the $2599 price.....SWEET DEAL!
Also have a Denon AVR-4520CI shipping Monday. Gonna have a busy few weeks playing with my new toys.

Did you call them or did you get an email?
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post #280 of 496
9/28/12 at 11:29am
I just got a tracking number from Visual Apex!
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post #281 of 496
9/28/12 at 11:39am
I just got mine from VA too! =) Sweeeeet. I love it when a home theater comes together...
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post #282 of 496
9/28/12 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by NMJack View Post

Did you call them or did you get an email?

nm - I just called AGI and they confirmed that mine has shipped! (actually, I think he said it is sitting on the dock) I'll be checking that tracking number daily. cool.gif
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post #283 of 496
9/28/12 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by RajeeK View Post

Did PP match AG's price? They said they would match the $2899 AG price, not their $2599 a few weeks ago when I asked.

No, I asked them to but they said AGI could not honor those prices since they are fixed by Panasonic. I'm too nice and should have jumped on the AGI deal with you and now I don't even get what I was promised from VA and to ditch them.

Guess I'm impatient and want people to deliver on their promises.
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post #284 of 496
9/28/12 at 12:03pm
Confirmed shipment here from Projector People via FedEx. It will be here Wednesday! Upgrading from a PT-AE4000U...
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post #285 of 496
9/28/12 at 12:36pm
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Originally Posted by RajeeK View Post

Mine has shipped out from Audio General. Got tracking to confirm. They did honor the $2599 price.....SWEET DEAL!
Also have a Denon AVR-4520CI shipping Monday. Gonna have a busy few weeks playing with my new toys.

Super jealous!!

What kind of deal did you score the 4520 for if you don't mind me asking?
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post #286 of 496
9/28/12 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

Super jealous!!
What kind of deal did you score the 4520 for if you don't mind me asking?
Not allowed to post that per AVS rules. PM Sent.
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post #287 of 496
9/28/12 at 3:27pm
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Originally Posted by afurdell View Post

I'm a recovering Epson 8500ub owner. I had one new one and about five refurbs over the course of 2.5 years -- kept getting the pink tint on the edge, a degenerative problem, on unit after unit. Yes, Epson's replacement plan is fantastic, but when their product doesn't last more than a few months, it's not worth it. At least I never had to replace a lamp.
So I've pre-ordered the ae8000u, and I'm hoping for a more reliable experience. I'd like to be ready when it comes, so I was wondering if anyone has information re: mounting. Are the 8000's mounting holes in the same configuration as the 7000, for example?

My PJ is on the way, but I still have no idea what to do about mounting. Does anyone know -- do the various Panasonic PJs generally all mount the same? Looking at this page:
http://stores.ebay.com/The-Fair-Trade-Gallery/MOUNTS-FOR-PANASONIC-PROJECTOR-/_i.html?_fsub=8735128&_sid=3995133&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
...it looks like the metal plates are the same shape across all the different Panny models. (The mount I currently have installed is basically just like those ones, except with a different metal plate.) Can any Panasonic enthusiasts confirm?
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post #288 of 496
9/28/12 at 3:34pm
The 7000 and 8000 share the exact same case..they mount exactly the same!!! And I just ordered the 8000!
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post #289 of 496
9/28/12 at 6:30pm
Just triggered on the 8000 from projector people. Hoping it rolls in on Wednesday.

In addition to 2D/3D bluray, I am interested in 3D gaming using PS3 and Nvidia 3dTV/Vision.

I will post my experience with PS3/PC gaming as soon as I have time.

For PC gaming, I see the PT-AE7000 on the nvidia supported list. Anyone have experience with PC 3D gaming with the 7000?
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post #290 of 496
9/28/12 at 7:55pm
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I'd much prefer to use the RF technology (and 4th generation glasses) that Panasonic is using on their newest Flat Panels. My room set-up lends itself more to RF and it feels like the industry is moving toward RF (example...last night I swung by Best Buy just to get a feel for the sizing of the glasses and they informed me the IR ones were discontinued in-store and they are only stocking the RF ones moving forward). As I'm contemplating purchasing 5 pairs of glasses I thought I'd ask...is there any way to use a RF transmitter of some sort to convert the 8000U's 3D signal to RF...which would then enable me to purchase the 4th gen RF glasses instead of the 3rd gen IR ones?
Thanks for any info.

Why in the world would Panasonic not use the new RF 3D glasses standard? They have it on 2012 TVs, but their new new 2013 projector? Ugh!

So if you have a Panasonic TV, you would have to get all new glasses for the projector. I can't believe such nonsense.

Michael
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post #291 of 496
9/28/12 at 8:23pm
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Originally Posted by Michael2000 View Post

Why in the world would Panasonic not use the new RF 3D glasses standard? They have it on 2012 TVs, but their new new 2013 projector? Ugh!
So if you have a Panasonic TV, you would have to get all new glasses for the projector. I can't believe such nonsense.
Michael

I recall in one of the videos that they said it was because there would be more people watching at once with a projector compared to a TV. I can only speculate this is because they over-engineered their RF system by using bluetooth, and the bluetooth chips available only support a limited number of connections.
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post #292 of 496
9/28/12 at 10:05pm
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Did you call them or did you get an email?
I called them yesterday and they said they would be arriving today and my order was early enough I would go out in the first batch. All went as they stated.
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post #293 of 496
9/29/12 at 6:32am
unless the reviews are less than great i'll be pulling the trigger on an 8000 in the next few weeks.

question about mounting.. was going to get a chief mount like this since i want a very short drop from the ceiling:

http://www.visualapex.com/accessories/accessory_details.asp?Accessory_Type=Projector_Ceiling_Mount&chPartNumber=RPA-U&MFR=Chief-Manufacturing

which is 'inverted'.. since this is my first projector.. is that a good idea, to invert it? any problems or is everyone doing that?. sorry for the newbie question.

looking forward to the reviews!
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post #294 of 496
9/29/12 at 8:21am
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Originally Posted by RajeeK View Post

I called them yesterday and they said they would be arriving today and my order was early enough I would go out in the first batch. All went as they stated.

Thanks. I did get a formal email shipping notice from them yesterday afternoon. It is supposed to arrive at my house next Thursday. I'm upgrading from an AE2000 that has been a terrific projector. It currently has over 3300 hours on its third lamp, so the timing is perfect. This will be my first exposure to both active shutter 3D and frame interpolation, so I'm really looking forward to it.
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post #295 of 496
9/29/12 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by mbaysing View Post

I recall in one of the videos that they said it was because there would be more people watching at once with a projector compared to a TV. I can only speculate this is because they over-engineered their RF system by using bluetooth, and the bluetooth chips available only support a limited number of connections.

That's exactly what they said. I originally was expecting RF, but based upon some other discussions, it sounds like we might be better off with IR. I've got to believe that Panasonic knows what they're doing here.
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post #296 of 496
9/29/12 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by NMJack View Post

That's exactly what they said. I originally was expecting RF, but based upon some other discussions, it sounds like we might be better off with IR. I've got to believe that Panasonic knows what they're doing here.

I think they should have put Bluetooth chips in their so people would have the option. Each Bluetooth master supports 7 slaves. I have to think the TVs support more than 7 glasses, so perhaps they are putting in two chips, for a total of 14. That's plenty for 99% of people, even with a projector.

Michael
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post #297 of 496
9/29/12 at 4:11pm
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Originally Posted by IQ22 View Post

Confirmed shipment here from Projector People via FedEx. It will be here Wednesday! Upgrading from a PT-AE4000U...

Looking forward to your review. Currently on a 4000 and was originally going to go for the 7000 when Panasonic announced the 8000 !
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post #298 of 496
9/29/12 at 7:02pm
Mine arriving on Tuesday by Fedex from Projector People in Tampa smile.gif
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post #299 of 496
9/30/12 at 7:12am
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Originally Posted by Froot View Post

It is NOT the main living area...yet is downstairs in my man-cave...where I have my pool table, arcade, darts, etc. It is completely underground with no windows...so light-controlled for sure.
Looking at your pictures had me excited for my room...and the possibilities. I love your ceiling and how it angles up like that (I have that in my bedroom). Recessed lighting I'm seeing is a must...and as others have stated...I need to get out of the mindset that it must be perfect on day one. I too have that mindset...and need to let it go....yet...honestly....I did let it go as I've been incrementally upgrading the room anyways.
I talked to my wife and she wasn't opposed to "an accent wall" as she called it...and painting JUST those walls a dark gray. The ceiling she was highly opposed to...so maybe a foam board wrapped in black velvet (as the outside of the Carada screen is...sorta) would be nice from the ceiling if bouncing light really becomes a problem.
And as for me doubting myself...it's just the new factor of a projector. I'm committed for sure...the screen is up, old television and stand is GONE...and projector on pre-order and all cables (30 foot HDMI, new CL2 in-wall speaker wire, etc.) is already at the house...so...I'm definitely committed. I just want to do it right...and mount the projector from the ceiling, fire it up and be decently happy...and not pissed I can't read my health bar in Halo because it's washed out by light. biggrin.gif
I am hoping to be pleasantly surprised...which I'm positive I will be...given this projector and the screen's reviews/reputation.

You don't have to paint everything black or dark grey to get good enough results. What ever dark color you choose just make sure that you use a matt paint finish. My wife didn't want me to paint the wall behind the screen black because she said that it would look like ????. One morning after she went off to work i took out the paint brush and painted it anyway when she came back from work i told her to come see the surprise that i had for her. She instantly complained witch i was expecting, i told her that i just wanted to see how much improvement their would be in the picture and that i would repainted back as soon as i would get a chance. It's been black ever since that day and she just grew to like it and never bothered me with it again. If i had listen to her i would never get anything done everything would of probably be painted beige. She has alot of great ideas for raising the kids but when in come to home cinema i'm the one who spends all my time researching these forums. lol
Edited by tank01 - 9/30/12 at 7:24am
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post #300 of 496
9/30/12 at 11:52am
Guys,

I am buying my first projector and the following parameters will shape my decision. I really want the new Panasonic 8000 to meet my expectations due to the amazing vertical lens shift:

- Quality: Manufacturing deviations such as lcd alignment etc are very important to me as I want the tightest tolerances but it is always a balancing act based on cost
- Sharpness: how the new 8000 compares with the Sony VPL HW50ES sharpness.
- Fan noise& Iris noise: My room is sound proofed and ultra quiet so I do not want a distracting fan or iris taking me my out of the movie experience
- Vertical lens shift: I love the vertical shift that the Panasonic offers as it seems to be unmatched in this regard. And for my room I really would like to be able to mount my projector about 12 inches below the ceiling so I will not have to see a giant pole and projector hanging 30 inches down from the ceiling.
- 3D: Also very interested in the 3D performance since my wife and kids currently will not watch movies in 3D on our Panasonic VT30 65" plasma due to what I think is "crosstalk" or ghosting but I am not sure.
- Black levels: Sounds like JVC is the king here

I am all over the place now since I have not ruled out the new JVC's as well.
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