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post #481 of 496
Let me first say that the 2D picture of the 8k seemed better than my RS40... even the black levels. The image also appears sharper and the colors seem more accurate. Granted, I have not calibrated it, but out of the box Cinema1 is fantastic in Economy lamp mode.

Anyway, my issue... I have it mounted from the ceiling 12 feet away and using a level, I have determined that it is perfectly level along with my new 120 inch screen. I used the lens shift joy stick (hate that thing) to make the final alignments. After all of that, I have key stoning issues, i.e. the top of the picture tapers in a little. Sure, with my 3 inch wide black projector screen frame, I can hide it, but it is noticeable when there is a 4:3 picture or when I access the menu system.

I keep verifying that it's level and I have never experienced this before with my 3 previous projectors all mounted in the same spot using the same mount. Is it possible that the lens is damaged? Maybe I can angle the projector down just a bit to fix this, but then I'm introducing slight focus issues. Anyone else experiencing this? I'm very picky, but for 3K it should have a perfectly square picture. Thanks.
post #482 of 496
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

Let me first say that the 2D picture of the 8k seemed better than my RS40... even the black levels. The image also appears sharper and the colors seem more accurate. Granted, I have not calibrated it, but out of the box Cinema1 is fantastic in Economy lamp mode.
Anyway, my issue... I have it mounted from the ceiling 12 feet away and using a level, I have determined that it is perfectly level along with my new 120 inch screen. I used the lens shift joy stick (hate that thing) to make the final alignments. After all of that, I have key stoning issues, i.e. the top of the picture tapers in a little. Sure, with my 3 inch wide black projector screen frame, I can hide it, but it is noticeable when there is a 4:3 picture or when I access the menu system.
I keep verifying that it's level and I have never experienced this before with my 3 previous projectors all mounted in the same spot using the same mount. Is it possible that the lens is damaged? Maybe I can angle the projector down just a bit to fix this, but then I'm introducing slight focus issues. Anyone else experiencing this? I'm very picky, but for 3K it should have a perfectly square picture. Thanks.

I'm so happy I read this! I set up my 8K 2 weeks ago to replace my 4K. The 4K was a breeze to install and align. The 8K was more challenging with the joystick but after it was up I could NOT fully correct the key stoning I was having. It's not a major issue...don't notice it if the room is dark...but it is there and I literally tried to correct it for 30 minutes to no avail. I'm glad I'm not the only one! I was going to dismiss it but now I'm wondering if I should be calling Panny...
post #483 of 496
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Originally Posted by IQ22 View Post

I'm so happy I read this! I set up my 8K 2 weeks ago to replace my 4K. The 4K was a breeze to install and align. The 8K was more challenging with the joystick but after it was up I could NOT fully correct the key stoning I was having. It's not a major issue...don't notice it if the room is dark...but it is there and I literally tried to correct it for 30 minutes to no avail. I'm glad I'm not the only one! I was going to dismiss it but now I'm wondering if I should be calling Panny...

Hmmm... now that I think about it, if you look at the bottom of the projector, it does not have 4 adjustable legs, only 2 in front. I wonder if the lens is setup to display a square picture when the projector is on a perfectly level table with the adjustable legs at their smallest height? If that is the case, then we would need to aim the projector down a small amount when hanging if from the ceiling.
post #484 of 496
I just got off the phone with Panasonic projector support. First, the guy had no idea that the warranty was for 2 years, second he told me that if I was not using a Panasonic mount, they would not entertain any picture distortion issues. I told the guy that made no sense and that level is level regardless of the mount. I told him I would put it on a table and insure that the issue still exists. If I do that, then he said to send picture of the projector on a level table and the projected image issue to "projectorsupport@us.panasonic.com", along with my case number & team 15 in the subject. If they determine that there is an issue, within the 1st 30 days of ownership, I can exchange it with them for a new one or have it fixed and turned around within 4 business days of them receiving it. I would pick the exchange if it comes down to it.

If there are others out there that are noticing a key stone issue, please post it, along with your mounting situation. Tonight I will attempt to angle the projector off level.
post #485 of 496
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

I just got off the phone with Panasonic projector support. First, the guy had no idea that the warranty was for 2 years, second he told me that if I was not using a Panasonic mount, they would not entertain any picture distortion issues. I told the guy that made no sense and that level is level regardless of the mount. I told him I would put it on a table and insure that the issue still exists. If I do that, then he said to send picture of the projector on a level table and the projected image issue to "projectorsupport@us.panasonic.com", along with my case number & team 15 in the subject. If they determine that there is an issue, within the 1st 30 days of ownership, I can exchange it with them for a new one or have it fixed and turned around within 4 business days of them receiving it. I would pick the exchange if it comes down to it.
If there are others out there that are noticing a key stone issue, please post it, along with your mounting situation. Tonight I will attempt to angle the projector off level.

The line about the Panny mount is ridiculous. I'd have to assume the % of people using the "official" amount is ridiculously small. I'm interested in hearing your findings. I won't be able to do it tonight, but perhaps I can run the same test this weekend (although I loath to take the unit down after all the effort I spent adjusting the darn joystick)!
post #486 of 496
Hello mods....can we merge the two panny threads...its getting kinda tough going back and forth. Lots of good info in both threads!!
post #487 of 496
Merge please, and confirm once done. Thx!!
post #488 of 496
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

Let me first say that the 2D picture of the 8k seemed better than my RS40... even the black levels. The image also appears sharper and the colors seem more accurate. Granted, I have not calibrated it, but out of the box Cinema1 is fantastic in Economy lamp mode.
Anyway, my issue... I have it mounted from the ceiling 12 feet away and using a level, I have determined that it is perfectly level along with my new 120 inch screen. I used the lens shift joy stick (hate that thing) to make the final alignments. After all of that, I have key stoning issues, i.e. the top of the picture tapers in a little. Sure, with my 3 inch wide black projector screen frame, I can hide it, but it is noticeable when there is a 4:3 picture or when I access the menu system.
I keep verifying that it's level and I have never experienced this before with my 3 previous projectors all mounted in the same spot using the same mount. Is it possible that the lens is damaged? Maybe I can angle the projector down just a bit to fix this, but then I'm introducing slight focus issues. Anyone else experiencing this? I'm very picky, but for 3K it should have a perfectly square picture. Thanks.

I'm happy to report that it was user error. It turned out that the new screen I installed was not true! After taking it down and readjusting it, everything looks great! Panasonic's 8k image appears to be perfectly true. Sorry if I got you guys nervous.
post #489 of 496
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Originally Posted by sgapt View Post

Yeah, I've played with the calculators before. I was actually looking for someone who had some experience with projectors as this is my first. Last night I went ahead and moved my projector back to approx. 15.5 to 16 feet. I can easily zoom out to 136" now. I can't tell that much if any loss of brightness, but I am sure there is some loss in FL.
One thing I have read is that you have to have the lens level with the top of the screen for lens memory to work. I have NOT noticed that at all. Am I missing something?

Doesn't have to be level, just can't be above the top of the screen

Please let me know how it turns out. Just picked up a Draper XT1000 1.0 gain 2.35 148" for my theater. Room is dedicated theater so it will be a bat cave. I used the calculators from projector central and it said I would be fine at 16' throw. Apparently I will end up at 18FL. Strangely enough I tried the same settings with a JVC projector at 1300 lumen and ended up at 17FL?

Sent from my GS3
post #490 of 496
I've been using the 8000 since it has come out. So far I'm pretty happy with my purchase. I have a 135" Elite Screen and haven't been disappointed. I have the 8000 ceiling mounted about 14-15' back in a total light controlled room with two rows of 3 seats (first row about 14', 2nd 18') in a 15x24' room.

I can say that it is pretty bright and I can even turn up my wall sconces and still view sports (ie. super bowl party style). The 3D is pretty nice. I have watched Kung Fu Panda 2 in 3D and it's pretty awesome, however, it is noticeably darker. The movie is mostly dark though. I have other 3D movies that I have yet to test (only one live action: Tron: Legacy). Also, I played an old PS3 game (Ico) in 3D and it was very dark even after turning up the brightness all the way in the game. I enjoyed the 3D part but found myself constantly looking "under" the glasses to look for brighter details. Fast camera movement didn't keep up very well either. This is probably one of the first 3D games though so I wouldn't put much stock in it. I have one or two other 3D games I'll look into later.

More on 3D, I just got a 3D capable DVR from Time Warner (my cable provider) and tried to watch their 3D movies on demand (they have several free short films). However, I ran into a problem with seeing two distinct images top/bottom style and I couldn't make it work. It wasn't until I went into the 3D menu on the 8000 and took it off Auto and put it specifically on Top/Bottom view before it would work. So it looks like Auto does not work on the 8000.

I will try to report more as I watch more content.
Edited by Stoma Kalos - 10/25/12 at 9:22pm
post #491 of 496
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Originally Posted by holmern View Post

Please let me know how it turns out. Just picked up a Draper XT1000 1.0 gain 2.35 148" for my theater. Room is dedicated theater so it will be a bat cave. I used the calculators from projector central and it said I would be fine at 16' throw. Apparently I will end up at 18FL. Strangely enough I tried the same settings with a JVC projector at 1300 lumen and ended up at 17FL?
Sent from my GS3

I haven't had any problems with mine. Picture looks good, but 148" WOW. Now I can't imagine how huge that will look. Screen envy. How big is your room?
post #492 of 496
This review (which I wrote) might be of interest to anyone browsing this thread:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-pt-at6000-201211052339.htm
post #493 of 496
Finally got my free 3D glasses today, so I'll be testing them out tonight. Do I need to do anything special to connect them to the projector, or do they automatically sync up when the projector goes into 3D mode?
post #494 of 496
The PT-AE8000U (US VERSION) PT-AT6000E, can owners confirm, in 3D (for 3D gaming) and set to "gaming mode"... is there any input lag?

I have an optoma HD33, in 3D with all the image processing turned off its completely lag free for gaming, but put it into 3D and a tiny bit of input lag occurs. Enough to make FPS difficult.

Thanks for your time. biggrin.gif
post #495 of 496
is there any way to change screen alignment how can i enter there
post #496 of 496
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Originally Posted by Silock View Post

Finally got my free 3D glasses today, so I'll be testing them out tonight. Do I need to do anything special to connect them to the projector, or do they automatically sync up when the projector goes into 3D mode?

Can I ask how long it took for you to get your glasses? I know the rebate form says 6-8 weeks, but did it really take that long? I'm hoping not... Panasonic received my rebate on 2/21/13
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