Originally Posted by jeffkro
It could end up like Vista, not get widely adopted and then quickly superseded by the next version. People who have bought into windows are pretty well invested in the OS, its really not that easy to switch to something else. I don't think everyone is going to be running over to Mac's or anything.
Personally they should have made 2 versions one tablet UI and one desktop UI, but 100% compatible. My guess is someone will make an app so it will but directly into the desktop UI.
I'm not sure how they could make 2 versions that were 100% compatible (i assume you mean compatible application wise). It seems to me that most of the people that are angry just want a few tweaks so that they dont have to use the new UI at all. They prefer the desktop and will remain in that environment. If MS gives them that option, maybe we will hear less of the discord.
Originally Posted by tman247
But the move to Windows 95, whilst still different (radical might be too strong a word), was still entirely focused around keyboard/mouse, which many were already comfortable with. Learning new places to find things in Windows has been one of the things we've had to live with in every new release, and most adapted to 95 without any problem, but the shift from keyboard/mouse to touch might be one step too far. If MS are true to their word and have removed the ability to boot straight into the desktop in 8 RTM or stop the Start button being re-activated, then they really are pushing this interface with no option to go back.
Well I get why they want everyone to at least go through the start screen before going into the desktop. Since the start screen is the replacement for the start menu, people need to see it to know its there and start to get use to it. For power users, this is very annoying I agree, but for the average user it will help in their transition. I doubt MS will make it impossible to boot straight to the desktop or bring back some form of a start menu for a 3rd party that wants to make it work. They may not make a single button or setting that allows it, but I wont be shocked to see 3rd party solutions. Heck, MS left a menu where the start menu use to be on the desktop side (you know, the menu that shows up when you right click in the bottom left corner that shows options like control panel), so who knows what a 3rd party could do.
I'm sorry, but no matter what anyone says, having to go back to keyboard shortcuts just to do the basic's (ie, trying to bypass some of Metro's design limitations) is just ridiculous. Navigating Metro with a mouse is just a horrendous process, and having to fall back to using the navigation cluster on the keyboard is so restrictive it's unreal. If you have a touch interface to your O/S, then the entire device should be touch optimized (e.g. tablets, smartphones). Trying to take an O/S designed specifically for keyboard/mouse input (which ALL previous versions of Windows were), and tacking on a touch front end is going to end in disaster. At the very least, MS should have provided an option to have the classic Start button re-enabled just to ease the transition.
Ultimately, this seems like a necessary evil on MS' part. Its going to hurt until they iron out these transition issues. I hope they do offer more ways to allow those of us that need the desktop environment to get to it quickly and that they work hard to bring more power user features to the new ui. MS need the touch based ui for the future, they just need to focus more on bringing what power users need into that ui (which would include improvements to the mouse/kb functions.