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post #331 of 489
Here is my final finish.... (I hope)
Nicholas
Amanda
Cassaddee
Terry
Melane
Trevin
post #332 of 489
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Originally Posted by domino92024 View Post

I noticed that the producers stopped getting her opinion for the last few performers on Monday night. I guess they noticed her cheerleading as well. She looked totally disinterested in the performances after Dez performed. Who's replacing her next year?

Usher and Shakira are joining "The Voice" as new coaches next spring, when Christina Aguilera and CeeLo Green take a break from the show.
post #333 of 489
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Originally Posted by TulsaCoker View Post

Here is my final finish.... (I hope)
Nicholas
Amanda
Cassaddee
Terry
Melane
Trevin

That's a good lineup for me as well .. although I'd put Cass second and Amanda third .. I would still like to see St Nick win it, I'm just afraid the voting public may not fully appreciate his talent ..
post #334 of 489
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I know many people can't check iTunes sales ranking during the day.

Wait, excuse my ignorance here on these things, but sales? People are actually buying these songs to rank them this high.

Sorry if this comes off disrespectful to the competitors, but how are virtual nobodies on a reality show selling and ranking higher than some of the superstars of the business? I could see if these were free downloads and if they are, then disregard my previous comments, but if they are actual sales I'm confused as to how or why anyone would be buying these.

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Also, there seems to be a 100% glowing, effusive commentary from every judge about every artist. Personally, I think many actually stink (e.g. Melanie simply cannot sing and has no voice... heaven only knows how she's made it this far). Nicholas David is constantly off-key, so why is he so successful??? And yet, the judges (including Blake in particular) keep sturggling to come up with ever newer and different and even more positive adjectives and descriptions, of what truly were awful performances. They're always falling all over themselves with undeserved praise and expressions of how miraculous and wondrous that stinking performance just was!! Boggles the mind.
This is monotonous, dishonest, and non-critical. If Britney's constant "amazing" is irritating, the four judges on The Voice have deteriorated into meaninglessness. Surely they can say something critical when it's deserved, which to me now seems almost all the time deserved.
Carson Daly opens his mouth and shouts over the crowd in a monotone unemotional sing-song which is not much more than a small improvement over Khloe Khardashian's emotionless robot-speak, and the SQUEALS come from who knows where whenever he mentions a name. The judges are rubber-stamping and just glowing with undue unjustified superlative praise for crummy performances. The group numbers are ludicrously inferior and over-staged, much like on that other show we all hate.

While I don't think we need another Simon Cowell, the constant praise is pretty lame. Even when you can tell a judge didn't care for it, they still throw in complements.

Just be honest and tell it like it is. If it's not good, say so and stop coddling these people like they are going to break.

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Originally Posted by TulsaCoker View Post

Here is my final finish.... (I hope)
Nicholas
Amanda
Cassaddee
Terry
Melane
Trevin

Right now I'd have to go in this order.
Amanda
Cassadee
Nicholas
Trevin
Terry
Melanie

Amanda wasn't my favorite to start, but I am really loving how she can change it up and not be a one trick pony.
All the others (minus Cassadee) unfortunately are showing they are one thing and if they try to stray from it they falter a bit.
post #335 of 489
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp 
Wait, excuse my ignorance here on these things, but sales? People are actually buying these songs to rank them this high.

Sorry if this comes off disrespectful to the competitors, but how are virtual nobodies on a reality show selling and ranking higher than some of the superstars of the business? I could see if these were free downloads and if they are, then disregard my previous comments, but if they are actual sales I'm confused as to how or why anyone would be buying these.

It is real sales of singles at $1.29 each. Although agreements vary, typically when someone downloads an song, 70 percent of the purchase goes to the developer(s), and 30 percent goes to Apple. The top 200 singles list is posted on the site, and updated periodically through the day. Usually after the TV broadcast (viewed by over 10 million people), sales will spike for about a day for many of the contestants, but only a few have managed to carry that sales volume for more than a couple days.

It is unknown what percentage of the money actually makes it to The Voice contestants, but it must be a significant amount to these struggling artists (Melanie is still in High School for instance).
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On October 10, 2012, the iTunes Store was reported to have a 64% share of the online music market, and a 29% share of all music sales worldwide.

October 2, 2012 - So far this year, digital album sales in the U.S. are up 15 percent from the same period last year. And Americans have already purchased one billion digital tracks, a pace that is set to break 2011’s record of 1.3 billion sold, according to Nielsen.
post #336 of 489
Is there any listener still awake and who has some forward left on the DVR who does not use it when Christina Melan grabs a mike?
post #337 of 489
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Is there any listener still awake and who has some forward left on the DVR who does not use it when Christina Melan grabs a mike?
Boy... those parts are PARTICULARLY PAINFUL!

Honestly, much of the show is unwatchable. Not as unwatchable as X-Factor, but not far behind.
post #338 of 489
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Is there any listener still awake and who has some forward left on the DVR who does not use it when Christina Melan grabs a mike?
I don't know who that is.
post #339 of 489
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

I don't know who that is.

I think that's the girl in the Sprint Sky Box.....that whole Sky Box part of the show is unbearable.....along with Carson asking a contestant a question before he revels the next save.
post #340 of 489
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I think that's the girl in the Sprint Sky Box.....that whole Sky Box part of the show is unbearable.....along with Carson asking a contestant a question before he revels the next save.
Thanks, and yes, I agree on all counts.
post #341 of 489
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I commented a while back on the "skybox" .. previously, we had some sort of Twitter Lounge .. and AGT has the Orville Lounge ..

and yes, it's a time filler, best viewed with a FF button ..
post #342 of 489
Most of the Voice is incredibly watchable. The parts that I do skip are blatant in-show car commercials, anything with Milan, and commercials. The singing, the early prep for the songs with the band, the judge interactions are all highly entertaining and watchable. It's what sets this show apart from junk like Idol and X Factor.
post #343 of 489
At this point we couldn't care less about the backstories, the song prep, or the group performances. We only watch the individual contestant performances, the worthless coaches comments and then the during the results show, the actual reading of who was saved. We get through the first 2 hour show in about an hour and the results show in 15 minutes.

So, in regards to the comments earlier about Cee-Lo and Christina leaving after this season, I just wanted to add one thing.
For as much as I love to look at Christina and truly think she is one of the greatest singers of all time, I think her departure should be a permanent one. Lets be honest here, in 3 seasons she has finished in 3rd place out of 4, last place, and now is out of competitors while the other two coaches still have 2 left each.

It's obvious she either sucks at picking talent, sucks at song choices, or is just a bad coach overall. Sorry, but I think with this track record, aside from looking hot, she doesn't bring anything to the show at this point.

Since I'm on the topic of Christina, I have a question.
Do you guys think the coaches know the results beforehand? When she was asked for comments about Dez, her body language and the comments she made about this not being the end of the road if you're eliminated made it seem like she knew he was definitely gone.
Edited by Tom Imp - 11/29/12 at 7:54am
post #344 of 489
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post

At this point we couldn't care less about the backstories, the song prep, or the group performances. We only watch the individual contestant performances, the worthless coaches comments and then the during the results show, the actual reading of who was saved. We get through the first 2 hour show in about an hour and the results show in 15 minutes.
So, in regards to the comments earlier about Cee-Lo and Christina leaving after this season, I just wanted to add one thing.
For as much as I love to look at Christina and truly think she is one of the greatest singers of all time, I think her departure should be a permanent one. Lets be honest here, in 3 seasons she has finished in 3rd place out of 4, last place, and now is out of competitors while the other two coaches still have 2 left each.
It's obvious she either sucks at picking talent, sucks at song choices, or is just a bad coach overall. Sorry, but I think with this track record, aside from looking hot, she doesn't bring anything to the show at this point.

With all due respect, I don't think lumping the word "we" into a discussion post is quite accurate .. after all, you don't speak for me .. I like the song prep, I like the Coaches .. etc .. could the show be condensed .. ?? Certainly ..

The winning percentage of a coach at this point in the game is Americas choice .. catagorically stating that it is fully the Coaches fault for a loss is simply unsupported .. I would counter your statement by saying she must have seen something in any pick .. whether or not that something can be developed into a winning contestant really has many, many variables .. of which the Coach is just one ..

I think I know of your distain for the show and I respect that .. however, you speak from the opinion of one .. yourself ..

There are certainly things I don't like as well, but in my opinion, it's still the best show of it's kind

I hope Christina comes back .. although Shakira will likely add a whole different dynamic to the next season .. I believe that this season, Christina has improved herself quite a bit and made an honest effort to try and win ..

I'm not attacking your post, we all can't like the show .. wink.gif

On a side note .. I'd guess that Shakira may put Christina to shame when it comes to sexy female attire ..

post #345 of 489
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With all due respect, I don't think lumping the word "we" into a discussion post is quite accurate .. after all, you don't speak for me .. I like the song prep, I like the Coaches .. etc .. could the show be condensed .. ?? Certainly ..

Actually, by "we" I meant me and my wife. I wasn't trying to speak for the whole group.

Sorry for the confusion.

Oh, and for the record, I actually love the show. Just because I am critical of certain points and FF through most of it doesn't mean I have disdain for it.
post #346 of 489
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post

Actually, by "we" I meant me and my wife. I wasn't trying to speak for the whole group.
Sorry for the confusion.
Oh, and for the record, I actually love the show. Just because I am critical of certain points and FF through most of it doesn't mean I have disdain for it.

It's all good, bro .. wink.gif

And don't get me wrong, I agree with some of what you're saying .. smile.gif
post #347 of 489
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

On a side note .. I'd guess that Shakira may put Christina to shame when it comes to sexy female attire ..

While Shakira is definitely lacking in a certain area where Christina has the "big" advantage (IMO), the rest of her is phenominal. biggrin.gif
post #348 of 489
Remember that Shakira is very pregnant right now, so that picture isn't accurate. According to Adam Levine, filming has already begun on Season 4, even as Season 3 is still finishing.

http://www.capitalfm.com/artists/maroon-5/news/usher-shakira-the-voice/

I am actually more concerned about the addition of Usher to the panel, he just seems boring to me. Maybe his three word sentences will balance out Adam's pointless rambles. wink.gif
post #349 of 489
Her motives for doing so may be in question, but at least Christina sometimes offers criticism. Except for Christina, I perceive that the culture of the show is set by the format, which injects a decided degree of personal investment in the contestants for each coach, therefor resulting in the other coaches bending too far giving deference to other teams when asked what they think, so as not to start wars in retaliation. A little bit of bad feelings expressed between coaches can be poisonous, as I detected in the past seasons when Adam & Blake obvious were ticked at Christina. That we do not have nearly so much of that this year has made the show much more pleasant and watchable.
post #350 of 489
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post

Actually, by "we" I meant me and my wife. I wasn't trying to speak for the whole group.
Sorry for the confusion.
It was always clear to me anyway.
post #351 of 489
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Originally Posted by Distorted View Post

Her motives for doing so may be in question, but at least Christina sometimes offers criticism. Except for Christina, I perceive that the culture of the show is set by the format, which injects a decided degree of personal investment in the contestants for each coach, therefor resulting in the other coaches bending too far giving deference to other teams when asked what they think, so as not to start wars in retaliation. A little bit of bad feelings expressed between coaches can be poisonous, as I detected in the past seasons when Adam & Blake obvious were ticked at Christina. That we do not have nearly so much of that this year has made the show much more pleasant and watchable.

While the constant bickering (especially between Adam and Christina) did get to be a bit much and actually took the attention away from the contestants where it belonged, the sometimes unwarranted praise from other judges is a bit much IMO.

I can see the contestant's actual coach giving kudos even when it's not warranted (i.e. Christina praising Dez like he was the Second Coming), but if it's not good then just say so. Stop with the cookie cutter "it wasn't my favorite of yours, but you are still great" nonsense.

It's like the coaches are all afraid to be the "bad guy" and get booed by the shrieking (or as DSperber calls it squealing) little girls that make up the majority of the audience. Like I said in an earlier post, while we don't need another Simon Cowell, don't coddle these people like they are so fragile this will destroy their potential careers.
post #352 of 489
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Originally Posted by Distorted View Post

Her motives for doing so may be in question, but at least Christina sometimes offers criticism. Except for Christina, I perceive that the culture of the show is set by the format, which injects a decided degree of personal investment in the contestants for each coach, therefor resulting in the other coaches bending too far giving deference to other teams when asked what they think, so as not to start wars in retaliation. A little bit of bad feelings expressed between coaches can be poisonous, as I detected in the past seasons when Adam & Blake obvious were ticked at Christina. That we do not have nearly so much of that this year has made the show much more pleasant and watchable.

Christina offers criticism of other coaches' singers, not her own. A good example was on Monday, 11/26, when she cheered and had orgasmic praise for Dez, but frowned and was very sullen while being critical of the other singers. Very transparent.
post #353 of 489
OK, sorry, I have an AVS tech question on this show, and I figure this might be a good place to ask. Is anyone having problems with the 5.1 audio broadcast the last couple weeks? I am barely getting anything coming out the center channel. Just wondering if it's only my setup, but if so, why do all other channels and broadcasts sound just fine?
post #354 of 489
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OK, sorry, I have an AVS tech question on this show, and I figure this might be a good place to ask. Is anyone having problems with the 5.1 audio broadcast the last couple weeks? I am barely getting anything coming out the center channel. Just wondering if it's only my setup, but if so, why do all other channels and broadcasts sound just fine?

What source do you use .. ?? OTA or CATV or DISH .. ??
post #355 of 489
Wow. . .just wow. What a show.

Just finished watching. Trevin has forever ruined a happy song for me (Walking on Sunshine). I'd have to give Terry "Most Improved" but I have to wonder if they are watching the same performances we are - they gushed over him like he was spewing gold every time he sang.

Amanda Brown. . .wow, I think I love that woman (although Natural Woman just made me think of a hair product commercial). And Cassadee Pope - nailed 'em. Nick stumbled on September (judges comments on not singing the chorus were spot on), but I still loved both his performances. Mellanie - well, I gotta say that second song choice - The Show - just didn't work, and the judges were really squirming in their chairs trying to find something nice to say.

Gonna be close this week - at this point, I really don't know who to think will get voted off. Despite Trevin's obvious talents, he just does nothing for me - it's just weird watching this huge dude up on stage belting out diva songs. Terry - well, for me "effortless" as the judges have put it translates, for me, into a lack of heart and soul - he's singing, but not performing. I just don't have a connection to the music when he sings - it's just - there. Whereas, Nick, and to a certain extent, Amanda, just get me into the music and all excited. They make me want to Shout, C'mon Now, Shout, Cmon now, if you know what I mean.
post #356 of 489
Lots of great singing tonight. Cassadee was once again the highlight for me. Only letdowns for me were September and Walking on Sunshine. My guess is Trevin will go home for that.

All the songs are up on iTunes now and Melanie definitely sounds much better in the studio than she does live. Her rendition of Crazy is really good. Given the right kind of material, she could have a really nice niche career. If I were forced to wager, I'd bet that the final 2 will come down to Melanie and Cassadee. Not sure if they're doing a final 2 or not, though. I have no clue what the format of the show is, I just know that I'm cherishing every last episode since it's the only quality singing competition left on TV. X Factor continues to be a joke, and Idol went off the rails with Steven and JLo, but appear to have veered into worse territory with Nicki and Mariah. I hope I'm wrong about that and it proves to be great, but unfortunately it appears to be chasing the same stupid audience that Cowell appears to want (screaming idiots).

I wonder how much Blake paid Xtina to join Team Blake.
post #357 of 489
Here are some of my thoughts about the Top 6 performances. The top 3 worst performance(s) of the night, two belong to Team Ceelo because of very poor song choices: Trevin's "Walking on Sunshine" and Nicholas David's "September" (a terrible song choice, does Ceelo want to Nicholas to fail ? I've lost all confidence in Ceelo's song choices). The third worst performance was Melanie's, I forgot what the song was but the production set was too tacky and horrible to describe, it obliterates all memories of the song... I felt like Adam just threw Melanie under the bus... no one can survive that, not even a great voice nor a great song choice - both of which she did not have.

As for the others, Amanda did not reach the success she had with "Dream On" and "Stars", Casadee is someone I can't appreciate except for her one big moment in "Over You" , outside of that she absolutely seems like someone trying hard to be another Taylor Swift. I'm glad they FINALLY let Terry choose his own song, "I Want to Know What Love Is" may not be spectacular, but at least it was a big change from his usual classic rock up tempo thing, it's really nice to hear his voice without all that noise. Another good song choice by the contestant himself is Nicholas David's, "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" - I could not believe he would sing that! Isn't that the song of our grandmothers? But he proved his artistry there, I am truly glad he overcame that horrible September number. I think Trevin and Melanie are saying good-bye, they just don;t have what it takes to reach the next level, not to mention their coaches contributing to their downfall, sad to say... I wish all of them luck! Here's hoping ole Nicky David will win! biggrin.gif
Edited by artemis2012 - 12/4/12 at 12:37am
post #358 of 489
Isn't it great that we all look (and listen) at/to things differently? I hadn't cared much for Amanda Brown before last night and thought her version of "Natural Woman" was absolutely excellent. Of course Cassadee Pope did her usual stellar job and, contrary to the above post, I really enjoyed Melanie Martinez, ESPECIALLY "The Show." I thought it perfectly suited her teenage personality. As for the guys, I do agree with the assessment on Trevin. There is no denying that he has an amazing voice, but who cares? I can't imagine me adding any of his music to the 7,000+ songs on my iPod. I pretty much feel the same about Terry. He did a good job with both of his songs last night, but he is beginning to sound the same week after week. As for Nicholas, I'm a real fan, but I was really disappointed in both of his choices. I'm sure he will stick around, but he'd better kick up his game a bit. Who do I think will go home tonight? I think Trevin for sure and although I would pick Terry to leave, I'm afraid it might be Amanda. For me, her first song was great but although she sang the Whitesnake song very well, it was just ok for me.
Edited by BoilerJim - 12/4/12 at 6:07am
post #359 of 489
If we're basing it on iTunes voting, Trevin, Amanda and Nicholas are in trouble. Melanie at this point is the clear favorite from last night receiving the most, and highest average, ratings. Followed by Cassadee and the Hobbit.
post #360 of 489
Boy Christina has it in for Melanie.....after last night I think most has great performances and mediocre performances.....Nick redeemed himself with over the rainbow....Amanda sounded great along with Cassadee. If I had to pick two from last night to go home I want to see Trevin and Melanie leave....just my two cents.
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