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post #1771 of 2247
Thanks - updated my driver, and I don't know if that helped anything or not, but my Seiki 50" 4K is looking much better!

But not good enough - Seiki 50" 4K sent back.

New Calman Beta available:

http://consumer.spectracal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=4876

Lumagen:

Production 073113- Cleaned up the output trigger options settings and a couple of small bugs associated with them and added an output trigger option for rs232 only.

http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=updates

Bug in latest Calman Beta - upgraded version possibly later this week.
Edited by p5browne - 8/21/13 at 6:53pm
post #1772 of 2247
New interactive control for CalMAN V5
Looks like SpectraCal has added connectivity to a New Lut Box......Fujifilm IS-Mini.

Here is the press release.
FUJIFILM AND SPECTRACAL ANNOUNCE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE FOR PRECISE MONITOR CORRECTION WITH IS-MINI AND CALMAN

Looking forward to some feed back, from anyone that has used it.

Later
RayJr
post #1773 of 2247
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Originally Posted by Rayjr View Post

New interactive control for CalMAN V5
Looks like SpectraCal has added connectivity to a New Lut Box......Fujifilm IS-Mini.

Here is the press release.
FUJIFILM AND SPECTRACAL ANNOUNCE STRATEGIC INITIATIVE FOR PRECISE MONITOR CORRECTION WITH IS-MINI AND CALMAN

Looking forward to some feed back, from anyone that has used it.

Later
RayJr

It's nice to see new 3D LUT Holder Devices like Fuji's but for Consumers/Home Cinema enthusiast, Fujifilm is useless device for them, for Blu-Ray Playback.

Can't Pass any Sound, No 3D Signal Support, No HDMI Input to connect your Blu-Ray Player, HDMI Output @ YCbCr only, 26x26x26 LUT Size, One Memory Slot, Can Handle only 1080 p/i Resolution Signal, No 720 or 576.... ~1.300$ Price

eeColor is much cheaper/useful for that market/use (for only 650$) with 65x65x65 LUT Table Size and 6 Memory Slots. (Does not pass frame packing 3D Signal only...)

What CalMAN Licence Type is supporting the Fuji ? only CalMAN Studio?

I'm looking forward for some feedback too.

HDMI to HD-SDI Idea can't work, because Blu-Ray Playback from Stand-Alone Player has Copy Protected HDMI Signal (HDCP)

For example:

BlackMagic Devices HDMI to SDI MiniConverter (295$) does not pass protected Signal...

AJA HA5 HDMI To HD-SDI/SDI (345$) Video & Audio Converter will not pass HDMI video with HDCP copy protection too...
Edited by ConnecTEDDD - 8/23/13 at 2:33pm
post #1774 of 2247
http://www.spectracal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=4904

New Beta with Fixes: 5.2.0 #1315

http://store.spectracal.com/downloads/

New DriverPack Ver.2.4 now available.
Edited by p5browne - 8/24/13 at 10:01am
post #1775 of 2247
derek your the co owner
post #1776 of 2247
New Lumagen Update: 081913

http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=updates

With the New Calman Beta Ver 5.2.0 1315, and the New XE-3D FW - my LG 55LHX looks drop dead gorgeous after last night's calibration! Like looking out your front picture window!

Addendum:
Also a New Finding for Me - 55LHX has a totally different set of settings depending on whether a Video Input, or Computer Input is attached to HDMI 5. Are these totally separate from each other? Do settings on one set conflict with what's in the other set? Therefore after all these years, Factory settings were in the Computer set, and I'm just calibrating the Video side of things. To alleviate this possiblity, put my Video side calibrated settings on both sides. Now will re-calibrate again to see if there's much change with the Factory Computer Side settings gone and replaced.

Results: Did not change the Backlight, Contrast, Brightness, Colour nor 2 Point Settings. Just AutoCaled the Greyscale and 3D LUT 125 Point - got flatter results, and closer to the ideal Zero.
Did changing the Values on the Computer side settings to match the Video side improve anything. Hard to tell, but I feel better having the same settings for both now.

Note for the Computer settings: Limited selection on the Extended Menu, and No CMS. Still have 2 and 10 Point settings.

Don't know if ALL TVs have these dual settings or not.
Edited by p5browne - 9/3/13 at 11:08am
post #1777 of 2247
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Originally Posted by p5browne View Post

New Lumagen Update: 081913

http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=updates

Thanks p5browne
post #1778 of 2247
Are you gonna re-calibrate for this?
post #1779 of 2247
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Originally Posted by AVfile View Post

Are you gonna re-calibrate for this?

See my Addendum above.


New Calman Beta 5.2.0. #1319


http://consumer.spectracal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=4927

Has Calman caught up to the Spectracal C6?

The old Calmans, and the C6, I found had Red issues that were fixed by profiling to the i1Pro.

But with the New Calmans, I'm finding the Profiling is now resulting, in a little too much White, Green and Red.
Now calibrating with the C6 only - so far, have not seen any issues, and the PQ is more Natural versus with the Profiling where the PQ seemed a bit more agressive..

New Calman Beta 5.2.0 #1324

http://consumer.spectracal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=4942

New Radiance FW Update 090313 available:

http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=updates
Edited by p5browne - 9/20/13 at 9:24pm
post #1780 of 2247
Meter calibration results using Calman 5.2.0 Beta #1324 125 Point 3D LUT with the Radiance XE-3D,

Calibrate my LG 55LHX with Spectracal's C6:
Results: Bolder Colours, Brighter PQ (Sharpness setting: HS: 58, VS: 56)

Calibrate my LG 55LHX with the i1Pro Non-Enhanced:
Results: Fuller Colours, more realistic bordering on almost 3D (Sharpness setting: HS:62, VS:60)

Now, have to decide which I prefer.

Definitely out:
Calibrate my LG 55LHX with the Spectracal C6 profiled off the i1Pro Enhanced
Colours little too much on the Bright Side

Yet to try - the Spectracal C6 profiled off the i1Pro Non Enhanced

All of the different combinations, still can't get the 25% Red Luminance into the Box?
Note: The Greyscale was done 25% slower by the i1Pro, but 25% faster on the 125 Point 3D LUT

Addendum: The winner is the i1Pro Non Enhanced over the Spectracal C6 - definitely much prefer the PQ from an i1Pro calibration
What did surprise me was, despite the bad rap of the i1Pro for Lower IREs, to me the i1Pro beat out the C6 here as well. (Especially 15 IRE that the C6 had problems with.)
Edited by p5browne - 9/23/13 at 8:36am
post #1781 of 2247
http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=radiance20XX_updates

FW Update for the Radiance 20XX Series - 090213 to fix error in 090113


For those who calibrate their sets using a HDMI connection from your computer to the TV, instead of using a VQ: beware, you may have Double Settings!
ie: Connect your Computer to HDMI 1 - you get the Computer settings. Remove, and now install your Video Input to the same HDMI - oh, oh - different settings! Check this out before you go to all the work of calibrating your Computer Settings, only to find you Video looks a little Off later.

New Radiance FW #091013: (Pick your Model) NOW upgraded to 092113

http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=updates

New Radiance FW #092013 for the 20XX Units NO Upgrade since 092013

http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=radiance20XX_updates
Edited by p5browne - 10/2/13 at 1:45pm
post #1782 of 2247
Has Calman released an update to support 9x9x9(729 point) ?

Quote:
Production 082013- Adds new 9x9x9 (729 point) gamut correction. Previous 125 point calibrations are not modified unless you choose to do so. You can optionally change from 125 point mode to the new 729 point mode which will maintain your calibration and interpolate the new points that could then be adjusted if necessary. You can also still calibrate in 8 or 125 point mode in the menu or with older calibration software as well. Look for updates soon from SpectraCal, Chromapure and Light Illusion supporting the new Radiance 9x9x9 CMS.
post #1783 of 2247
Yes, there's a beta release that supports the new Lumagen 9^3 cube.
post #1784 of 2247
For Lumagen users - new FW Updates for all Models: FW # 100113

http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php?module=updates
post #1785 of 2247
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Originally Posted by Mark_H View Post

Yes, there's a beta release that supports the new Lumagen 9^3 cube.

And it works well. I did 729-point cals twice yesterday, creating one with 2.2 gamma, and one with BT.1886. Took about 1 hour and 30 minutes each, and included a 21-point grayscale cal followed by the 729-point cube.
post #1786 of 2247
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Has Calman released an update to support 9x9x9(729 point) ?

Yes we had a beta with support up 4 days before the Lumagen released their firmware.
post #1787 of 2247
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Originally Posted by sotti View Post

Yes we had a beta with support up 4 days before the Lumagen released their firmware.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_H View Post

Yes, there's a beta release that supports the new Lumagen 9^3 cube.

I cannot seem to find it, sorry, can someone please provide a link?

Thank you
post #1788 of 2247
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post


I cannot seem to find it, sorry, can someone please provide a link?

Thank you

http://consumer.spectracal.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=105&t=4942
post #1789 of 2247

Thanks p5browne
post #1790 of 2247
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Originally Posted by Mark_H View Post

Yes, there's a beta release that supports the new Lumagen 9^3 cube.

Does the 9x9x9 support apply to the Radiance XS 3D or just newer models?

If the 5x5x5 takes 25 minutes to run with my i1D3, how long do you think it will take to do the 9x9x9?

Thanks!
post #1791 of 2247
Hi Ric,

The 9x9x9 only applies to the 20xx models, not the XS/XD/Mini as these don't have enough FPGA space to support the larger LUT.

I think people are reporting around 1.5-3 hours for a full 9x9x9 cube, but that of course depends on the display, the meter and the amount of correction needed.

A crude way to estimate the time would be to multiply your current time by 6, as you have almost 6 times (5.82) more controls points to adjust, so it might take you around 2.5 hours.
Edited by Manni01 - 10/13/13 at 1:10pm
post #1792 of 2247
Two questions:

Is Calman ever going to be available on Amazon again?

And let's say someone who didn't have that much technical knowledge or patience, like, say ... my twin brother, maybe, wanted to try to calibrate his CMS projector with Calman ...

Doable?
post #1793 of 2247
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Originally Posted by Tangled Cable View Post

And let's say someone who didn't have that much technical knowledge or patience, like, say ... my twin brother, maybe, wanted to try to calibrate his CMS projector with Calman ...

Doable?

 

Eminently. If the PJ has a full set of calibration controls, he can calibrate it with Calman. There is a bit of a learning curve but with some help from the threads anyone can learn how to use Calman. He will need a bit of patience though...

post #1794 of 2247
Thanks for the answer, kbarnes. I'll tell "him" right away.

Anyone know why this is listed on Amazon, but is not actually available on Amazon?
post #1795 of 2247
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Originally Posted by Tangled Cable View Post

...
And let's say someone who didn't have that much technical knowledge or patience, like, say ... my twin brother, maybe, wanted to try to calibrate his CMS projector with Calman ...

Doable?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Eminently. If the PJ has a full set of calibration controls, he can calibrate it with Calman. There is a bit of a learning curve but with some help from the threads anyone can learn how to use Calman. He will need a bit of patience though...

And, if you get the auto-cal version it's even more "eminently" "doable".
post #1796 of 2247
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post


And, if you get the auto-cal version it's even more "eminently" "doable".

That's only IF your PJ or processor is one of those that supports autocal!smile.gif
post #1797 of 2247
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Originally Posted by Rolls-Royce View Post

That's only IF your PJ or processor is one of those that supports autocal!smile.gif

Crumb... that's right. Well, time to invest in a Lumagen so you can autocal any pj. That works! (excuses, excuses).
post #1798 of 2247
As far as I can tell my w1070 does not, in fact, support this. Looks like I'm going to be cranking those calibration settings by hand. I'm going to start building up my arm strength right now.
post #1799 of 2247
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Originally Posted by erkq View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tangled Cable View Post

...
And let's say someone who didn't have that much technical knowledge or patience, like, say ... my twin brother, maybe, wanted to try to calibrate his CMS projector with Calman ...

Doable?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

Eminently. If the PJ has a full set of calibration controls, he can calibrate it with Calman. There is a bit of a learning curve but with some help from the threads anyone can learn how to use Calman. He will need a bit of patience though...

And, if you get the auto-cal version it's even more "eminently" "doable".

 

AIUI there aren't any PJs that support autocal.

 

Edited because the original post was 100% utter nonsense!  Thanks to Mann101 for the info.


Edited by kbarnes701 - 10/14/13 at 4:33am
post #1800 of 2247
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post

AIUI there aren't any PJs that support autocal.

That's incorrect, Calman supports at least the JVC range (most models since the rs40/rs50) smile.gif
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