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post #751 of 795
Guys - I'm thinking of ordering this model as oppose to the 46.
What are your opinions on the 4K 'upscale', worth it ?????

Also, I see on the 46 model thread owners are having to send in their 46's to JVC for a 3D firmware upgrade.
At the cost of around $60?@? Is this upgrade applicable to the 48's ?

Many thanks,
DSB.
post #752 of 795
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Originally Posted by bealerDSB View Post

Guys - I'm thinking of ordering this model as oppose to the 46.
What are your opinions on the 4K 'upscale', worth it ?????

Also, I see on the 46 model thread owners are having to send in their 46's to JVC for a 3D firmware upgrade.
At the cost of around $60?@? Is this upgrade applicable to the 48's ?

Many thanks,
DSB.

All new stock JVC RS46's have the update. I also sent you a PM. smile.gif
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post #753 of 795
What is in the firmware updates of the 4810, since they were manufactured.
post #754 of 795
Is there a difference between the RS48 and the RS4810? Both are the same as the X55, right? No differences other than maybe something cosmetic?
post #755 of 795
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Originally Posted by archiguy View Post

Is there a difference between the RS48 and the RS4810? Both are the same as the X55, right? No differences other than maybe something cosmetic?

They are same projector
post #756 of 795
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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

They are same projector



I forget, I know you had the RS55, did you get one of this year's models and if so what did you get and how is it compared to previous JVC's you had. I still have a RS40 and plan to upgrade to either a new model this fall or get a refurbished RS56/66 when prices drop.

Thanks,
Mike
post #757 of 795
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

I forget, I know you had the RS55, did you get one of this year's models and if so what did you get and how is it compared to previous JVC's you had. I still have a RS40 and plan to upgrade to either a new model this fall or get a refurbished RS56/66 when prices drop.

Thanks,
Mike

I had the rs48 but sold it 2 months later. I missed the contrast of the rs55. I seen good deals on the rs55 lately, but I would be weary about getting a dud. I might wait until next year when the new standard comes out or get a rs56/66. I prefer the 66. The current models are an improvement because of the better bulb, longer lamp life, and better 3D. The 66 has much better contrast and black levels that I think you would really appreciate it. The RS48 had the same contrast as the RS40, so I know you will like the 66, even the 65.

I plan on moving into a bigger place and have another all black room. The 66 or a 4k model with the same contrast is what I am looking for.
post #758 of 795
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Originally Posted by bealerDSB View Post

Guys - I'm thinking of ordering this model as oppose to the 46.
What are your opinions on the 4K 'upscale', worth it ?????

Many thanks,
DSB.

Anyone that can give tech / personal opinions on the 4K arena within the 48 Model, would be appreciated.

DSB.
post #759 of 795
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Originally Posted by bealerDSB View Post

Anyone that can give tech / personal opinions on the 4K arena within the 48 Model, would be appreciated.

DSB.

I've played with it by turning it off & on. I've got a very large 148" 2.35:1 screen & I can see the difference. It also has the benefit of better tweaking of the picture on all the 4K models. For my money it was worth every penny as the picture looks amazing. biggrin.gif
post #760 of 795
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Originally Posted by Jim Cutter View Post

I've played with it by turning it off & on. I've got a very large 148" 2.35:1 screen & I can see the difference. It also has the benefit of better tweaking of the picture on all the 4K models. For my money it was worth every penny as the picture looks amazing. biggrin.gif

Thanks Jim...Owners feedback is much the key here in my choice of GO / NO GO.

I'll be using a company to install a flush ceiling motor drop 106" Lumene, along with a matching sync-drop motor cradle for the JVC.
Will be using CAT6 to transport the data along with a 12V trigger sys for Ops.
Working my way through the other options at that moment, your input helps a great deal.

DSB.
post #761 of 795
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Originally Posted by Jim Cutter

I've played with it by turning it off & on. I've got a very large 148" 2.35:1 screen & I can see the difference. It also has the benefit of better tweaking of the picture on all the 4K models. For my money it was worth every penny as the picture looks amazing.

The RS48 / 4810 is one sweet projector - glad you are enjoying yours Jim. If any AVS forum members are thinking about upgrading, give me or Mike a call. It's pretty hard to beat this projector for the money IMO.
post #762 of 795
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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

I had the rs48 but sold it 2 months later. I missed the contrast of the rs55. I seen good deals on the rs55 lately, but I would be weary about getting a dud. I might wait until next year when the new standard comes out or get a rs56/66. I prefer the 66. The current models are an improvement because of the better bulb, longer lamp life, and better 3D. The 66 has much better contrast and black levels that I think you would really appreciate it. The RS48 had the same contrast as the RS40, so I know you will like the 66, even the 65.

I plan on moving into a bigger place and have another all black room. The 66 or a 4k model with the same contrast is what I am looking for.

Ok, that makes sense. I don't think I could get another projector using the same bulb and that has held me back from RS55/65 even though the 003 bulb with metal flapper has been more stable but with new bulb design in 46/48/56/66 that is the way I will go if the new models this fall don't wow me.

Thanks again,
Mike
post #763 of 795
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Originally Posted by mbw23air View Post

Ok, that makes sense. I don't think I could get another projector using the same bulb and that has held me back from RS55/65 even though the 003 bulb with metal flapper has been more stable but with new bulb design in 46/48/56/66 that is the way I will go if the new models this fall don't wow me.

Thanks again,
Mike

Im thinking the same thing, if its another eshift model this fall, I might just go for a rs66/x95.
post #764 of 795
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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

Im thinking the same thing, if its another eshift model this fall, I might just go for a rs66/x95.

Yeah, unless the contrast and lumens on the new models have been significantly increased.
post #765 of 795
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Originally Posted by Craig Peer View Post

The RS48 / 4810 is one sweet projector - glad you are enjoying yours Jim. If any AVS forum members are thinking about upgrading, give me or Mike a call. It's pretty hard to beat this projector for the money IMO.

What are the other "finds" on the RS48 which owners have found beat the RS46?
Only 4K upscale and some other screen adjusts ?

I know it's an obvious question to owners, and yes I can read a little into this in the manuals... I'm trying to justify the $ in my virgin PJ brain...
Cheers,
DSB.
post #766 of 795
4810 has a three year warranty, full CMS and 4K up scaling. Those are the advantages over the RS46.
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post #767 of 795
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

4810 has a three year warranty, full CMS and 4K up scaling. Those are the advantages over the RS46.


Is the 4K considered the E-Shift? confused.gif


...Glenn smile.gif
post #768 of 795
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Is the 4K considered the E-Shift? confused.gif


...Glenn smile.gif

yes, they are referring to e-shift when you see the 4K upscaling option.
post #769 of 795
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

full CMS and 4K up scaling. Those are the advantages over the RS46.

Can the 4K upscaling be used on any video passing through, or only Blu-Ray fashioned media?
IE; DVD - 4K ; SD - 4K ????

Thanks !
DSB.
post #770 of 795
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Originally Posted by bealerDSB View Post

Can the 4K upscaling be used on any video passing through, or only Blu-Ray fashioned media?
IE; DVD - 4K ; SD - 4K ????

Thanks !
DSB.

It upscales when the source is 1080p and it only works with 2D material
post #771 of 795
Dear Guys,

Have bought a X55 for about a week. Replaced a 3 months old Sony HW30ES. Was a happy owner of HD1 for 5 years. Missing the 'Black' on JVC. Hence, replaced the Sony and back to the JVC. Thank you so much for the forum member. A great help of the advice. After received the X55. The first problem is the projector mount. The hook up is so different to the HD 1 and to other brands. I am using the Vogels projector mount. Have to custom made the mounting panel. So far, still on the setting up stage. Found a problem and hope all the experts can help to comments and solve the problem.
My hook up are exactly the same as the previously installed Sony HW30ES. However, the screen keep flashing once in a while and sometimes turn black especially when watching 3D. My set up --
Screen - Stewart Studiotek 130 (80") - OPPO 95 - HDMI 1 (Video only) -- Darbee --- X55 (hdmi 2) + OPPO 95 - HDMI 2 -- ONKYO 5508 - Darbee --- X55 (hdmi 1). So far, this happen mainly on the X55 input 'HDMI 2'. I am using 2 different sets of HDMI cable for input 1 & 2. Each set of hdmi cable are the same brand and a combination of 2 + 10m (To and from the Darbee). I have not got any problem on the previous injstalled SONY HW30ES. Is the JVC more sensitive/selective to the hdmi cables ? Or I have defective hdmi connector on the X55 ? I have contacted the JVC and they have confirmed my unit have the most updated firmwares.
Thanks advance for the help.
post #772 of 795
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Originally Posted by tune View Post

Dear Guys,

Have bought a X55 for about a week. Replaced a 3 months old Sony HW30ES. Was a happy owner of HD1 for 5 years. Missing the 'Black' on JVC. Hence, replaced the Sony and back to the JVC. Thank you so much for the forum member. A great help of the advice. After received the X55. The first problem is the projector mount. The hook up is so different to the HD 1 and to other brands. I am using the Vogels projector mount. Have to custom made the mounting panel. So far, still on the setting up stage. Found a problem and hope all the experts can help to comments and solve the problem.
My hook up are exactly the same as the previously installed Sony HW30ES. However, the screen keep flashing once in a while and sometimes turn black especially when watching 3D. My set up --
Screen - Stewart Studiotek 130 (80") - OPPO 95 - HDMI 1 (Video only) -- Darbee --- X55 (hdmi 2) + OPPO 95 - HDMI 2 -- ONKYO 5508 - Darbee --- X55 (hdmi 1). So far, this happen mainly on the X55 input 'HDMI 2'. I am using 2 different sets of HDMI cable for input 1 & 2. Each set of hdmi cable are the same brand and a combination of 2 + 10m (To and from the Darbee). I have not got any problem on the previous injstalled SONY HW30ES. Is the JVC more sensitive/selective to the hdmi cables ? Or I have defective hdmi connector on the X55 ? I have contacted the JVC and they have confirmed my unit have the most updated firmwares.
Thanks advance for the help.

Connect up using a short HDMI cable directly from Oppo to projector. Test both inputs and see if they work that way. Then test using Oppo projector and one long cable. If the short cable works and the long cable does not, probably the cable. If both short and long work, then it is probably just too long, when you have everything linked together.
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post #773 of 795
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Connect up using a short HDMI cable directly from Oppo to projector. Test both inputs and see if they work that way. Then test using Oppo projector and one long cable. If the short cable works and the long cable does not, probably the cable. If both short and long work, then it is probably just too long, when you have everything linked together.

I have tried to hook up the 10M HDMI cable from OPPO to JVC directly without the short cable and the Darbee. It is connected via the same hdmi 2 port. Both 3D and 2D works fine. Will try to connect them using the short cable. However, it is so strange that the whole combination works fine with the SONY projector. I wonder what's the difference on the HDMI board between JVC and Sony ?
post #774 of 795
Hi all- I am hoping you can help me work out screen size/ throw with this projector. I am planning on doing a CIH setup using zoom. The absolute maximum 2:35 screen size I could fit is 134” diagonal. I am not sure this projector could drive a screen that big (high lamp mode or otherwise) and I don’t really want to max out the projector’s capabilities. So my thinking is that I would mask down to a smaller 2:35 size- maybe something around 120-125 diagonal. (I like the idea of building in more screen now for better/ brighter projectors in the future.)

I guess I need help figuring out the correct throw to be able zoom from 16:9 to 2:35. I would like to have a good idea of my throw distance so I can consider the projector location when I look at the seating plan. For a given 2:35 size, what is the best way to figure out the correct throw for zooming between 2:35 and 16:9?
post #775 of 795
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Originally Posted by tune View Post

I have tried to hook up the 10M HDMI cable from OPPO to JVC directly without the short cable and the Darbee. It is connected via the same hdmi 2 port. Both 3D and 2D works fine. Will try to connect them using the short cable. However, it is so strange that the whole combination works fine with the SONY projector. I wonder what's the difference on the HDMI board between JVC and Sony ?

If it is working with the 10M cable connected directly from Oppo to projector, then there is nothing wrong with the projector. You are just using too much cable. You could switch to another cable or system that works better over a long distance.
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post #776 of 795
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

If it is working with the 10M cable connected directly from Oppo to projector, then there is nothing wrong with the projector. You are just using too much cable. You could switch to another cable or system that works better over a long distance.

I have replaced the shorter cable from the OPPO to Darbee with the WireWorld SS5 which I was connected between the OPPO to Onkyo. The used the shorter cable to the cable box. Now seems everything OK. Not sure whats happened.

Thanks Mike.
post #777 of 795
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

4810 has a three year warranty, full CMS and 4K up scaling. Those are the advantages over the RS46.
The 4810 also has multi-point fine (1/16 pixel) zone convergence adjustments, whereas the 46 just has global full pixel adjustments. YMMV, but this is a significant feature IMHO.
post #778 of 795
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

The 4810 also has multi-point fine (1/16 pixel) zone convergence adjustments, whereas the 46 just has global full pixel adjustments. YMMV, but this is a significant feature IMHO.

I don't see this model online, is it a US Model only ?
DSB.
post #779 of 795
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

The 4810 also has multi-point fine (1/16 pixel) zone convergence adjustments, whereas the 46 just has global full pixel adjustments. YMMV, but this is a significant feature IMHO.

Sold on the 48 series now, many thanks ! ( RS48 + RS4810 both hold the 1/16th tech )
P.S: I see AVAD on the JVC 4810 equipment detail, what ecactly does AVAD mean, precisely ?

Thanks in advance,
DSB,
post #780 of 795
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Originally Posted by argent65 View Post

Hi all- I am hoping you can help me work out screen size/ throw with this projector. I am planning on doing a CIH setup using zoom. The absolute maximum 2:35 screen size I could fit is 134” diagonal. I am not sure this projector could drive a screen that big (high lamp mode or otherwise) and I don’t really want to max out the projector’s capabilities. So my thinking is that I would mask down to a smaller 2:35 size- maybe something around 120-125 diagonal. (I like the idea of building in more screen now for better/ brighter projectors in the future.)

I guess I need help figuring out the correct throw to be able zoom from 16:9 to 2:35. I would like to have a good idea of my throw distance so I can consider the projector location when I look at the seating plan. For a given 2:35 size, what is the best way to figure out the correct throw for zooming between 2:35 and 16:9?

I have a 148" 2.35:1 CIH set-up & I'm right at the limit for how big the screen can be for my throw distance. I'm constantly amazed at how great the picture looks when zoomed out to fill all 148". If you are going to be using a smaller 134" screen you won't have any issues. My room is light controlled & my screen in a 1.5 gain Da-lite Pearlescent screen. I run mine in low lamp mode without any issues too & the image is plenty bright. You can use the calculator on the JVC website to check out screen sizes in each mode. wink.gif

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