Originally Posted by soupdragon
Thats interesting Jon as I watch a lot of satellite HD. I've never seen e-shift 2 so I'm interested in the improvements e-shift 2 makes here compared to e-shift 1.
Hopefully these pics help describe what I mean. The digital look is greatly diminished with the e-shift enabled and the blended pixels just make it feel much more natural. I'm now interested to understand what e-shift 2 brings to the party when watching satellite tv so very interested to hear your comments Jon.
Your pics were very clear and in terms of your question, I guess it depends on what you are "hoping" to get out of e-shift; an image with more "pop" or an image that looks less digital, or a bit of both! Sky satellite HD fundamentally looks soft and lacking in the depth and clarity of detail that Blu-ray is able to provide. I have a relatively small screensize and I found that with e-shift 1 with MPC=3 that it still wasn't quite enough to give that "pop" I was looking for. I noticed that the sharpness control interacted with MPC on the e-shift 1. In particular just a few notches of sharpness seemed to provide a multiplier effect to what e-shift was adding. But as you would expect, the sharpness control had some pretty severe artifacts to go along with it. I agree fundamentally with you that e-shift 1 did enhance while not making things look too digital....it just wasn't enough for me with satellite.
E-shift 2 is an odd beast, because it seems to be a much harder implementation to balance. Despite having a more "intelligent" filtering of which pixels it affects and which it doesn't, it seems to unfortunately reveal artifacts more easily. On my screensize though, I find that the Film mode when used for Blu-rays gets close to the effect I saw with e-shift 1. With satellite, as I mentioned e-shift 1 didn't have enough range in its settings to satisfy me. E-shift 2 has a much wider adjustment range either by cranking up Film mode, or by stepping down "High Definition". But when set correctly it gives Satellite HD feeds considerably more pop without the severe artifacts of sharpness/e-shift 1 in combination. However, I wouldn't say it looks less digital. I think it also depends on whether you are watching a TV show or drama, vs watching a movie as I would probably step down e-shift with the latter.
So in summary I think you and I may have had different goals over what we wanted out of e-shift for Satellite HD.As others have said, I think e-shift 2 introduces artifacts a little too easily, but I do think its benefits when set optimally are worth it. JVC have tried to provide a significant level of customization but it is VERY hard to get those settings right. When you press the MPC button a second time it shows you how that mode (e.g. Film, or High Resolution) will react to the 3 sliders (Enhance, Contrast, Smoothness). It shows your current image represented as specifically coloured pixels. Blue/green means it will apply enhance, Red/yellow means it will apply contrast. And black is where it applies smoothness. High Resolution mode for example, doesn't seem to respond to smoothness at all while Film mode does. If you set all the sliders to 0 on all the modes, then from what I can see, they are all the same. The mode only seems to determine the degree to which the sliders respond.