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Finest or prettiest? The Funk Audio web site makes me believe these are made one at a time and the consumer is basically paying for a custom made subwoofer. Right or wrong in my assessment, I'll let those who know the inside skinny, correct my assumption. Don't misunderstand, if one wants to differentiate their system with a Funk Audio subwoofer, I'd encourage them to pick a pair up. Other than the Funk Audio subs being drop dead gorgeous, I haven't a clue as to their sound quality.
If I had to pick affordable to me pretty, I'd pick a pair of Hsu Research, in a rosenut veneer.
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It goes into speaker category , I dont mind spending more to get more.
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Any of you familiar with Danley Subs ?
DTS 20 and DTS 10 ?
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It goes into speaker category , I dont mind spending more to get more.

Is one getting more or are they getting custom pretty? Price being a way of excluding rift-raft; bragging rights. Not sure what you mean when you post, "It goes into speaker category,..."

You asked about Danley subs. What is going be your use? Music or home theater?

The reason I ask, Danley subs are sub 120 Hz (100 and 70 Hz respectively) and don't meet THX .1 movie sound track mixing standards.

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I find the Epik, Empire sub interesting for it's dual driver in a 15" configuration as opposed to one active and one passive emitter such as what I currently have.

The downside, no fancy-pants veneer finishes at this time so you can have it in any color you want as long as it's a laminate matte black.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 8/23/12 at 2:15pm
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Is one getting more or are they getting custom pretty? Price being a way of excluding rift-raft; bragging rights. Not sure what you mean when you post, "It goes into speaker category,..."
You asked about Danley subs. What is going be your use? Music or home theater?
The reason I ask, Danley subs are sub 120 Hz (100 and 70 Hz respectively) and don't meet THX .1 movie sound track mixing standards.
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I was going to use it for both.
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I was going to use it for both.

Then be aware, from what I see, the Danley's aren't spec'd high enough for home theater mixing requirements; the .1 LFE channel carrying up to 120 Hz worth of LF sound track information.
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Then be aware, from what I see, the Danley's aren't spec'd high enough for home theater mixing requirements; the .1 LFE channel carrying up to 120 Hz worth of LF sound track information.
No bragging, Im looking to get a pair. I have a pair of 12inch JBLs , Nothing special about them, I was thinking about upgrading.
They will be probably on for channel music and be used also by HT.
By "paying more to get more " I meant quality not quantity.
And looks of them is unimportant.
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No bragging, Im looking to get a pair. I have a pair of 12inch JBLs , Nothing special about them, I was thinking about upgrading.
They will be probably on for channel music and be used also by HT.
By "paying more to get more " I meant quality not quantity.
And looks of them is unimportant.

Where's the quality upgrade? Pretty much, everything I read says, give or take a small here-or-there feature, generalizing, there's nothing that differentiates subs other than who buys which model. In other words, it's the buyer or price that differentiates the sub, not output quality of the sub itself.

I've been to the sub forum and none of the comments I read differentiated subs in a usable fashion. What I look for is versatility in the form of a continuous phase dial as well as the normal, power plug, gain and crossover knob. Don't know anybody who knocks Hsu Research, Epik, Rythmik or any of the other many sub manufactures out there today. Because subs have become commodities, it seems that subs are more like furniture, pick the kind and quality that fits your decor and for us, rosenut wood fits this description. Now the question becomes, what grade furniture can we or are we willing to afford?

My opinion, picking a sub is nothing like picking AVR's or speakers. Yes, nice looking speakers is part of the overall equation.
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Is one getting more or are they getting custom pretty? Price being a way of excluding rift-raft; bragging rights. Not sure what you mean when you post, "It goes into speaker category,..."
You asked about Danley subs. What is going be your use? Music or home theater?
The reason I ask, Danley subs are sub 120 Hz (100 and 70 Hz respectively) and don't meet THX .1 movie sound track mixing standards.
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I find the Epik, Empire sub interesting for it's dual driver in a 15" configuration as opposed to one active and one passive emitter such as what I currently have.
The downside, no fancy-pants veneer finishes at this time so you can have it in any color you want as long as it's a laminate matte black.
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You are absolutely wrong about Danley subs.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1189404/danley-dts-10-super-spud-diy-kit

I have the DTS-10 kit, and while it requires a bit of EQ to dial it in, it is absolutely one of the top subs out there period. It produces bone crushing bass from 12 Hz all the way to 120 Hz and far exceeds THX standards. Aesthetically it is not the greatest though. And it is an absolute monster at 67"X45"X16". Although its easy to hide behind a screen because it's skinny.

The Funky Waves are outstanding subs that could be finished to match your beautiful Salon 2's.

If you don't care so much about looks, then a DTS-10 or two would work fine. The passive version is $4K and the powered version is $5K. Quite pricey. You could get 95% of the performance for far less.

The only reason I have one is because the now discontinued kit was only a grand. You couldn't beat the price/performance ratio.

A JTR Captivator or Orbit Shifter would be really nice. CHT 18.2, but the finish is very utilitarian. The HSU VTF-15H is really nice too. A pair of Epik Empires or Rythmik D15 SE's would fit the bill nicely as well. There are a lot of great subs out there. Choosing will be difficult.
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20x20x20 130lbs box is small? lol
Compared to my DTS-10? Um, yeah. They are puny girlie man subs!tongue.gif
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20x20x20 130lbs box is small? lol

Not to split hairs, but the box is a bit smaller than that. Width difference from 20" to 16.5" is substantial if you are space limited, which obviously isn't the case for babak.

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I was under the impression that they are some of the finest subs around,
No I have no space limitations.
Room is about 500sf , So whats the best bang for my buck. Please let me know your opinion. Brand and model number as most of these companies have multiple models.

They are great and given you are not a typical "basshead" as some of us are, I believe they would suit your tastes well. The ARO that comes with JL products is very beneficial for those with limited EQ options/experience from what I have been told by JL owners. I personally would not choose this path, because there are many other offerings out there (as some have said) that can best these. On the other hand, if you liked the JL fit/finish and were considering the need for more headroom, dual Fathom f212's would suffice. Not sure if they still sell the Gotham but owning a pair of those would please the senses. Incredible fit and finish.

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A pair or quads of what AcuDefTechGuy has would be right there at the top of the subwoofer food chain.

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Funk makes some awesome boxes. I've heard nothing but great things about them. I personally am not familiar with the TSAD driver, but I have a few LMS Ultra's myself and their LMS Ultra offering looks stunning. If you were to directly compare the Fathom f113 to the Funk LMS Ultra the Funk would trounce the f113 in output and (IMO) come in a equally aesthetically pleasing box. Many can attest that It's hard to beat the JL drivers the SQ deparment, but the LMS is a close contender for sure.
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No bragging, Im looking to get a pair. I have a pair of 12inch JBLs , Nothing special about them, I was thinking about upgrading.
They will be probably on for channel music and be used also by HT.
By "paying more to get more " I meant quality not quantity.
And looks of them is unimportant.

Oddly enough, helping you helps me as doing so helps me explore my subwoofer related ignorance.

From my viewpoint, a sub's design and my needs suffer on many levels. One being level of sophistication on the part of sub design. Mostly, sub design is a box, amplifier and an emitter or two but nothing that in my opinion qualifies as sophisticated in design. And due to these designs, for many acoustical reasons, sound quality suffers accordingly as issues of overlapping sound waves and issues surrounding LPF and the directional nature of sound are not being addressed. It's stick the sub in the rooms listening position, do the floor crawl and hope for the best. Because of this, I saw real world choices limited to cheap, expensive and "oh hell no," type pricing but all the boxes, were basically the same; box, amplifier and emitter.

And then I stumbled across Martin Logan's subwoofer that addresses all these issues in one fell swoop. Well, except for the price but this time, I feel if I were to make the investment, I'd be getting something for my money besides "just" a pretty box with an emitter inside. In the end, due to price, there's no guarantees this is the direction I'll go, but a pair of these bad boys, due to their dispersion pattern, are subwoofers that will do the acoustic nature of your room proud because this design looks like a response to the short comings one finds in the standard, subwoofer box design I was seeing when I posted about subs being a commodity, separated mostly by nothing more then price and quality of cabinet veneer.

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Or a big step up.

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Sophistication in design and control. In my opinion, a pair of either of these Martin Logan subs will address your desire for sophistication in sound quality over the brute force nature of most conventional sub designs.

Here's a review with some follow-up discussion and a couple of real world pictures.

What are your thoughts on these subs?

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 8/24/12 at 6:34am
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Oddly enough, helping you helps me as doing so helps me explore my subwoofer related ignorance.
From my viewpoint, a sub's design and my needs suffer on many levels. One being level of sophistication on the part of sub design. Mostly, sub design is a box, amplifier and an emitter or two but nothing that in my opinion qualifies as sophisticated in design. And due to these designs, for many acoustical reasons, sound quality suffers accordingly as issues of overlapping sound waves and issues surrounding LPF and the directional nature of sound are not being addressed. It's stick the sub in the rooms listening position, do the floor crawl and hope for the best. Because of this, I saw real world choices limited to cheap, expensive and "oh hell no," type pricing but all the boxes, were basically the same; box, amplifier and emitter.
And then I stumbled across Martin Logan's subwoofer that addresses all these issues in one fell swoop. Well, except for the price but this time, I feel if I were to make the investment, I'd be getting something for my money besides "just" a pretty box with an emitter inside. In the end, due to price, there's no guarantees this is the direction I'll go, but a pair of these bad boys, due to their dispersion pattern, are subwoofers that will do the acoustic nature of your room proud because this design looks like a response to the short comings one finds in the standard, subwoofer box design I was seeing when I posted about subs being a commodity, separated mostly by nothing more then price and quality of cabinet veneer.
Depth i
Or a big step up.
Descent i
Sophistication in design and control. In my opinion, a pair of either of these Martin Logan subs will address your desire for sophistication in sound quality over the brute force nature of most sub designs. What are your thoughts on these subs?
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They look decent, But I have heard raves about tightness of lows, Depth , definition , ..... Just wondering what are decision factors for a sub for maximum harmony with Salon2s.
Im almost illiterate in this and home audition comparing subs will probably end up in a divorce lol.
I would rather read other peoples opinions and then research online reviews and customer opinions and forums and decide at the end. I will do the same for Amps, Im way to busy to AB test or do home audition. And dealer auditioning ( based on speaker buying experience has too many variances in equipment and room to be diagnostic)
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Originally Posted by babak147 View Post

They look decent, But I have heard raves about tightness of lows, Depth , definition , ..... Just wondering what are decision factors for a sub for maximum harmony with Salon2s.
Im almost illiterate in this and home audition comparing subs will probably end up in a divorce lol.
I would rather read other peoples opinions and then research online reviews and customer opinions and forums and decide at the end. I will do the same for Amps, Im way to busy to AB test or do home audition. And dealer auditioning ( based on speaker buying experience has too many variances in equipment and room to be diagnostic)

I have since amended my comments to include a link to a review that includes discussion of both the review and subwoofer with included real world images.

My opinion as to "maximum harmony with Salon2s;" sophistication over brute force. In the simple, my opinion, the choices before either of us are, sophistication or brute force. It's your call as to what you want to marry up with your Salon2's. Me? I'm a brute force kinda guy when it comes to home theater tracks but love the affect sophistication has on music.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 8/24/12 at 6:46am
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^^^

just as a suggestion... rsther than follow the advice of someone who admits he really doesn't know anything about subwoofwer design, listen to others...

go to the subwoofer subforum... read... you will not have any problem finding hard scientific data... rather than someone "guessing" without the knowledge to "know"...

you've actually been given some good advice by a few posters (subm, caps, funk) who understand why those cost more (and no, it's not simply because of the nice veneer on the funk, for example)...

you have a large space and a large budget... i would STRONGLY suggest getting educated by people who "know subs"...

your money...
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^^^
just as a suggestion... rsther than follow the advice of someone who admits he really doesn't know anything about subwoofwer design, listen to others...
go to the subwoofer subforum... read... you will not have any problem finding hard scientific data... rather than someone "guessing" without the knowledge to "know"...
you've actually been given some good advice by a few posters (subm, caps, funk) who understand why those cost more (and no, it's not simply because of the nice veneer on the funk, for example)...
you have a large space and a large budget... i would STRONGLY suggest getting educated by people who "know subs"...
your money...

I strongly suggest, most here know far less about what they post about then what they're willing to let on.

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I have since amended my comments to include a link to a review that includes discussion of both the review and subwoofer with included real world images.
My opinion as to "maximum harmony with Salon2s;" sophistication over brute force. In the simple, my opinion, the choices before either of us are, sophistication or brute force. It's your call as to what you want to marry up with your Salon2's. Me? I'm a brute force kinda guy when it comes to home theater tracks but love the affect sophistication has on music.
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Can you define brute force and sophistication? I define brute force as some maximum SPL at some frequency, something like the JL Fathom for instance. Sophistication would be a little more difficult to define for me, maybe more effort on flat response in the passband. The Submersive comes to mind. Can a sufficiently sophisticated sub cross into brute force territory?
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I strongly suggest, most here know far less about what they post about then what they're willing to let on.
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What makes you the expert to say so? I see you are new to AVS but yet have argued with many about audio. You have told me to be kind to my friends before because I blind tested them to show them the light. I found that rather odd because I give and help my friends more than any and yet you were treating me like I was bad to them. We suggest subs or whatever to people based on our experiences and some have more than other. I have been thru lots of stuff because I wanted to know all the hype of certain products and learn myself. I can tell you, subs make a difference and they are not all the same besides finish. Integrating well with speakers is just a simple phase correction at said frequencies, no fancy electronics needed.
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Can you define brute force and sophistication? I define brute force as some maximum SPL at some frequency, something like the JL Fathom for instance. Sophistication would be a little more difficult to define for me, maybe more effort on flat response in the passband. The Submersive comes to mind. Can a sufficiently sophisticated sub cross into brute force territory?

Brute force, as you suggest is maximum SPL but also in the price equation, this automatically includes response; flat or otherwise. Sophistication on the other hand is the ability for the sound of the emitter to "blend" in the room environment with the sound waves produced by the other interacting speakers in the system. Other than general terms, I don't see manufactures discussing the synergism their products create when in a room full of active speakers.

As to crossing over from home theater into music, that's a yes/no answer. It's going be based on room acoustics. Everything I've seen and read so far says, for the most part, "ALL" subs are the same. Others will be upset by this comment but that's their issue to deal with, not mine; box, Amp and emitter with variations of the theme; poor integration into room acoustics.

For the first time, I saw in the Martin Logan design, a subwoofer that spoke to my design concerns. And no, there's nothing cheap about the Martin Logan but what the design tells me, it tells me for the price, I'm actually getting something worth buying. That means everything to me. For the first time, I'm salivating over a sub and that's never happened.

Ring that bell Ivan, I'm your dog; woof, woof.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 8/24/12 at 7:25am
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What makes you the expert to say so? I see you are new to AVS but yet have argued with many about audio. You have told me to be kind to my friends before because I blind tested them to show them the light. I found that rather odd because I give and help my friends more than any and yet you were treating me like I was bad to them. We suggest subs or whatever to people based on our experiences and some have more than other. I have been thru lots of stuff because I wanted to know all the hype of certain products and learn myself. I can tell you, subs make a difference and they are not all the same besides finish. Integrating well with speakers is just a simple phase correction at said frequencies, no fancy electronics needed.

I'm not going get into it and you'll note, I limit my responses to these individuals as they, like you, look to find me as I do my levelheaded best to stay away from them.

There's not a thing wrong with making suggestions. Someone posted a rude, uncalled for comment and I made an appropriate level response. If someone wants to make suggestions in response to the OP of any kind, then I encourage them to do so. I stand by the simplicity of my comments.

Moving on.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 8/24/12 at 7:42am
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^^^
just as a suggestion... rsther than follow the advice of someone who admits he really doesn't know anything about subwoofwer design, listen to others...
go to the subwoofer subforum... read... you will not have any problem finding hard scientific data... rather than someone "guessing" without the knowledge to "know"...
you've actually been given some good advice by a few posters (subm, caps, funk) who understand why those cost more (and no, it's not simply because of the nice veneer on the funk, for example)...
you have a large space and a large budget... i would STRONGLY suggest getting educated by people who "know subs"...
your money...

+1 I would be wary of posters who have a large number of posts in a short amount of time and most of those seem to be arguments with the very ones who have been giving good advice for years. Btw, the "S" in AVS is for Science and this is one of the few forums on the internet that actually has Street cred...
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I have since amended my comments to include a link to a review that includes discussion of both the review and subwoofer with included real world images.
My opinion as to "maximum harmony with Salon2s;" sophistication over brute force. In the simple, my opinion, the choices before either of us are, sophistication or brute force. It's your call as to what you want to marry up with your Salon2's. Me? I'm a brute force kinda guy when it comes to home theater tracks but love the affect sophistication has on music.
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Can you define brute force and sophistication? I define brute force as some maximum SPL at some frequency, something like the JL Fathom for instance. Sophistication would be a little more difficult to define for me, maybe more effort on flat response in the passband. The Submersive comes to mind. Can a sufficiently sophisticated sub cross into brute force territory?

ime, the subm does "brute force" rather well... biggrin.gif
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I'm not going get into it. There's not a thing wrong with making suggestions. Someone posted a rude, uncalled for comment and I made an appropriate level response. If someone wants to make suggestions in response to the OP of any kind, then I encourage them to do so. I stand by the simplicity of my comments. Moving on.
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Yes, but you also grouped many AVSer's in your response. Many on here know more than the average joe and others know more than most.
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^^^
just as a suggestion... rsther than follow the advice of someone who admits he really doesn't know anything about subwoofwer design, listen to others...
go to the subwoofer subforum... read... you will not have any problem finding hard scientific data... rather than someone "guessing" without the knowledge to "know"...
you've actually been given some good advice by a few posters (subm, caps, funk) who understand why those cost more (and no, it's not simply because of the nice veneer on the funk, for example)...
you have a large space and a large budget... i would STRONGLY suggest getting educated by people who "know subs"...
your money...

I strongly suggest, most here know far less about what they post about then what they're willing to let on.

mad.gif

if you wager on that, you would lose...
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^^^^

"I am who I am" --- Popeye
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I strongly suggest, most here know far less about what they post about then what they're willing to let on.
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Can we help the OP out with his sub purchase. I have built enough subs (and a few of my own design) to disagree that they are strictly a commodity part.

What we need from the OP are any placement or size constraints first. What goals: HT/Music mix, HT only, Music only etc...
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^^^

yam... tongue.gif

there's too many good popeye quotes that would work in this thread... lol...
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Brute force, as you suggest is maximum SPL but also in the price equation, this automatically includes response; flat or otherwise. Sophistication on the other hand is the ability for the sound of the emitter to "blend" in the room environment with the sound waves produced by the other interacting speakers in the system. Other than general terms, I don't see manufactures discussing the synergism their products create when in a room full of active speakers.
The synergism you speak of can be achieved with just about any subwoofer out there. A manufacturer can talk about blending, synergy, harmonious integration, etc. all they want however it's up to the end user to expend the requisite effort to achieve this. This effort requires not only the expenditure of time, but the necessity of learning how to measure and interpret. It's dependent upon your ability to have the freedom to move things around. It's dependent upon your ancillary equipment. Synergy might even be improved if one has the financial means to purchase a smarter processor or even additional subs. It's like taking a one or two semester course where you have to work.

Some manufacturers, Seaton come to mind, will assist you either here, their forum, or by other means, and he has pro bono. But there is a limit as to how much time a manufacturer can spend with one person after all, they're not giving you the option of a one year, 6 session, support rider. That's where forums like this come in where you'll find people who are willing to give of their time to assist you. No different than if you have a problem with Microsoft Access and can rely upon forums and newsgroups to help you figure out stuff. Figure out enough stuff and then maybe it'll be use who starts tossing out nuggets of wisdom.
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As to crossing over from home theater into music, that's a yes/no answer. It's going be based on room acoustics. Everything I've seen and read so far says, for the most part, "ALL" subs are the same. Others will be upset by this comment but that's their issue to deal with, not mine; box, Amp and emitter with variations of the theme; poor integration into room acoustics.
With all due respect that's the individual's problem and even with just speakers there are issues one needs to address.
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For the first time, I saw in the Martin Logan design, a subwoofer that spoke to my design concerns. And no, there's nothing cheap about the Martin Logan but what the design tells me, it tells me for the price, I'm actually getting something worth buying. That means everything to me. For the first time, I'm salivating over a sub and that's never happened.
Subs for the most part don't come with the most attractive finishes or even options for better finishes. It's going to cost money.
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Ring that bell Ivan, I'm your dog; woof, woof.
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I strongly suggest, most here know far less about what they post about then what they're willing to let on.
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Always looking for a fight, this guy...

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Can you define brute force and sophistication? I define brute force as some maximum SPL at some frequency, something like the JL Fathom for instance. Sophistication would be a little more difficult to define for me, maybe more effort on flat response in the passband. The Submersive comes to mind. Can a sufficiently sophisticated sub cross into brute force territory?

Really wish you wouldn't encourage subjective philosophical insights from bee. It will never end… This thread will be waaay out in left field in no time…

It took me awhile, but being on the forum enough and seeing people post comments about how “sophisticated” and “silky” their speakers sound just makes you numb to it eventually. I love subs, but one thing I hate hearing is when people say they fear their foundation is going to crack from their bass. Riiiiight… Someone please post a picture of gear cracking a foundation.

I personally try to refrain from using BS subjective terms because EVERYONE has different definitions.

Objective data from reliable sources such as Data-Bass or the often referenced Craigsub Subwofer Comparison thread are good starting points for your research. Of course I'm talking from primarily a performance perspectvie as these "objective" measurements do not take cabinet finishing into consideration.
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I'm not going get into it. There's not a thing wrong with making suggestions. Someone posted a rude, uncalled for comment and I made an appropriate level response. If someone wants to make suggestions in response to the OP of any kind, then I encourage them to do so. I stand by the simplicity of my comments. Moving on.
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Seems to be consistent with most threads I have seen you post on. There is a reason so many people have called you out.

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+1 I would be wary of posters who have a large number of posts in a short amount of time and most of those seem to be arguments with the very ones who have been giving good advice for years. Btw, the "S" in AVS is for Science and this is one of the few forums on the internet that actually has Street cred...

I hate for my entire post to be about one person, but the reason he has such a high post count having only been here for 2 months is because he’s always getting in arguments. Most of the time with people who know what they’re talking about…
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Can we help the OP out with his sub purchase. I have built enough subs (and a few of my own design) to disagree that they are strictly a commodity part.

What we need from the OP are any placement or size constraints first. What goals: HT/Music mix, HT only, Music only etc...

yup, i hope "we" can, assuming he can sort the wheat from the chaff... however, i still think he should do some cursory reading in the subwoofer forum, or at the very least browse data bass, so he has an understanding that there are rather significant differences in subs... at least gain a bit of baseline knowledge...
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