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Planning to purchase home theater - looking for gear advice

post #1 of 8
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Hi. I'm planning to set up a home theater and just wanted some gear advice from those that know better.

90% home theater usage.

Room is 12X17X9.

Speakers: MartinLogan ESL, Stage center, and 4 FX2 for a 7.1

Sub: JL Audio F113

Oppo BDP-95 to a Parasound P7 to a Emotiva XPA-2 & XPA-5


Thoughts? Suggestions?
post #2 of 8
Are you saying that you are planning on getting that equipment, or asking whether you should buy that gear?

My only comment would be that Spending $4000 on that particular subwoofer seems questionable to me, when there are excellent 15" subs available for under $2000 from Rythmic that might be more cost-effective.

If it was me, I would use that savings on the subwoofer to buy a better power amplifier for the front 2 channels
Edited by commsysman - 8/15/12 at 4:10pm
post #3 of 8
Emotiva makes fantastic amps. Stick with Emotiva for you amps one of the best bang for the buck amps and performs right up there with multi thousand dollar amps. Distortion, power output at 4 and 8 ohms is good, great reliablitly, built quality.

If size isn't an issue the SVS PB13 Ultra is a fantastic hometheater sub. Massive 13" woofer and a 1000watt DSP amp. And its half the price of a JL audio sub.
post #4 of 8
You will get much smoother frequency response if you buy two subs and put them on opposing walls than one larger one. Here is an overview of how helpful that is: http://www.madronadigital.com/Library/BassOptimization.html
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You will get much smoother frequency response if you buy two subs and put them on opposing walls than one larger one. Here is an overview of how helpful that is: http://www.madronadigital.com/Library/BassOptimization.html

Dual SVS Ultras would fit his subwoofer budget of around $4k.

Also a HSU ULS quad set up for offer great freq response through out the entire room and would be just a few hundred over the price of a single F113.
post #6 of 8
Thread Starter 
I was planning on getting this gear. Just wanted more informed opinions before doing so.

I can get a F113 for $2k. Neighbor is upgrading to a F212 and won't need his old F113. It's very impressive.

It's what started me down the path of learning, listening, and trying to decide what gear to get.

Thank you for the suggestions.

I haven't had a chance to hear SVS or HSU. I'll have to do some homework.

I'm keen on getting my money worth.
post #7 of 8
You came here to get some advice;

The JL is quite impressive. It's very well built, aesthetically beautiful, and the driver is top notch. However, as stated, there are higher performance-to-cost ratio subwoofers available,...even at the $2k range. Optimization of a subwoofer system to both the room, and the mains, is absolutely key, and facilitated much better with an eye on multiple subs, and some acoustic treatment. So regardless which avenue you pursue, be mindful about those items.

The BDP-95 is a tour-de-force without much competition. Even at $1.1k new, they possess killer value IMO. I own one, and it's blown me away from day one,...simply superb.

I've never had the pleasure of listening to ML loudspeakers for HT. There are those that would argue that they're best suited for music, and I'd agree. The conditions would need to be right for them to render a highly realistic HT experience. That said, anyone should have the good fortune to listen to a set of ML's properly set up and implemented for music. I've listened to essentially all their wonderful stat offerings all the way back to the beginning, 25-30 years ago. As recent as last year while attending Cedia, I spent several hours, all the way up until the show closed, listening to a variety of loudspeakers in the Sound Room section of the show floor. I heard Tannoy's killer 12" coax plain, black cube, install version. I listened extensively to Def Tech's, JBL's big room, Pro Audio Technology, Procella, all of these in well sorted out rooms with very high quality ancillary equipment. Yes, many of the HF drivers were compression drivers. But some of the finest, most well executed examples around. No one does the research and driver R&D that JBL does. Procella's mains are world class. Tannoy has been producing and refining coaxial compression drives for decades. The presentations were impressive.

I supply all this context because the last room I spent time in was Martin Logan. The show was an hour away from being entirely over, so the crowds were gone. I was the only attendee inside the ML sound room. They greeted me, we briefly chatted and they offered up some nice music as I took possession of the front/center money seat. The material started and I was slack jawed in dis-belief. This combo of McIntosh powered ML, me in the sweet spot, was one of the most pleasing, nice, musical listening sessions I'd ever participated in. Just simply smooth as silk, three dimensional image that was wonderfully detailed with not a bit of unwanted edge harshness or any perceivable issues whatsoever. The stark contrast to the admittedly killer demos in the other rooms was clearly evident, and 180 degrees out of phase. Yes, just what the doctor ordered, for sure.

Now, can a electo-stat system like that provide the best dynamic realism for HT? It be tough and depends on the conditions, such as room size, listening distance etc. I know one thing, I'd love to have a secondary, ... music only electro-stat system in just the right room. There are those that absolutely love their ML loudspeakers for HT, and I'm sure it would be very, very enjoyable.


Best of luck
post #8 of 8
I agree the Emotiva amps are solid and an awesome value. Search around ABX amp tests, then feel great about the EMO. I have a Rythmik and love it. 10% off the second one. You are going to be very hard pressed to find a better sounding (more accurate/whatever your words for gooooood are) sub. The benefits of employing multiple subs are substantial, real, and documented. With a 4k sub budget you should be looking at multiple high end subs. 2-3 FV15HP or F15HP in the rythmik line. JL, Seaton, and JTR should catch your eye as well. I recently read up on the DIY LLT ported subs, that would be sweat, but enormous.

I know parasound is high end nice gear, but you should strongly consider an XT32 capable receiver.

Are you considering acoustical treatments, consider keeping a budget set aside for that, measurement gear, bass management gear, etc...

Don't get ripped off on cables, look at monoprice and/or blue jeans.
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