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'Raiders of the Lost Ark' Gets One Week Imax Engagement

post #1 of 46
8/15/12 at 4:00pm
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In anticipation of the September 18 release of Indiana Jones: The Complete Adventures on Blu-ray, the first Indy adventure is getting a special one-week engagement in select Imax theaters across the country.

 

 

 

 

Raiders of the Lost Ark will play on the GIANT screen from September 7-13 in a re-mastered print up-converted from 35 mm to 70mm. Spielberg described the process:

 

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"There’s two fronts, on any successful conversion, to Imax resolution, which is significantly clearer and sharper, with much more depth and fidelity than the movie appeared in theaters in 1981. So the first tier is where you take the DI [digital intermediate] and you enhance the resolution to Imax resolution. The second tier is that the sound is significantly different. They take the [audio] stems that we gave them, and they put them through their 12,000 watts of digital surround sound, and it’s a totally uncompressed experience.

 

"You kind of feel the sound in your chest, like when the boulder is rolling, chasing Indy through the cave. You really feel the boulder in your stomach, the way you do when a marching band passes by and you’re standing right next to it."

 

For further information about how a regular film gets converted to Imax, see this excellent piece.

 

None of Raiders' special effects have been altered in any way from the original version for this release -- only the audio has been bumped up for Imax's hefty digital surround sound systems.

 

For more insight from Steven Spielberg about this and other projects, check out his extended interview with The NY Times.

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post #2 of 46
8/15/12 at 6:36pm
i wish i could go; but theres no way im paying for parking at the mall(and with my luck no showings anywhere near me)


also does this mean that the bluray will be made from the Imax master?
Edited by swarm87 - 8/16/12 at 4:25am
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post #3 of 46
8/16/12 at 5:36am
If only this one would explain the submarine controversy.
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post #4 of 46
8/16/12 at 6:33am
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If only this one would explain the submarine controversy.

Check this out. There are other links as well within the article.

The Mystery of Indy’s Sub Ride Solved

Basic idea is that Indy was supposed to ride on the periscope since he didn't get inside the sub. There are photos, original scripts, and such to back this idea...
Edited by nickbuol - 8/16/12 at 8:16am
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post #5 of 46
8/16/12 at 7:33am
Periscope, not telescope.
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post #6 of 46
8/16/12 at 7:55am
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In anticipation of the September 18 release of Indiana Jones: The Complete Adventures on Blu-ray, the first Indy adventure is getting a special one-week engagement in select Imax theaters across the country.

This would be great news except for the fact that many of the theaters in the country screening this IMAX version will be Fake IMAX theaters. I have a Fake IMAX within easy driving distance which I've never attended and an IMAX a little farther away which is NOT showing this according to the IMAX website. Now I'm forced to looked at IMAX theaters within 2 hours driving time and from this list decide which are fake and which are real. Or just wait for the Blu-ray collection to come out and watch the film in my home theater - yet there is something special about reliving a classic like this on the BIG screen once again.



http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2012/08/15/drew-struzan-inspired-imax-poster-for-raiders-of-the-lost-ark
Edited by Mr.G - 8/16/12 at 10:16am
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post #7 of 46
8/16/12 at 8:14am
The last time I saw this on a big screen was in January 1994, at a screening of the first three films, in a benefit marathon at the Wang Center in Boston. At that time, it was the largest screen I ever saw the movie on. Now I can go one better and see this in IMAX up at the theater in Danvers. I can't wait to see how the two screen sizes compare.

Note: I previously said 1995, but I just checked my ticket stub from that show, and it was actually January 1994. Date corrected here, if nowhere else.
Edited by LineWalker - 8/28/12 at 12:37pm
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post #8 of 46
8/16/12 at 10:01am
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The last time I saw this on a big screen was in January 1995, at a screening of the first three films, in a benefit marathon at the Wang Center in Boston. At that time, it was the largest screen I ever saw the movie on. Now I can go one better and see this in IMAX up at the theater in Danvers. I can't wait to see how the two screen sizes compare.

Pssst.... 12,000watts. I'm pushing 10K in my 1,400ft^3 theater.

Dr. Jones.
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post #9 of 46
8/16/12 at 11:07am
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also does this mean that the bluray will be made from the Imax master?

Not likely, no. The movie was recently restored at 4k. That master will be the basis for the Blu-ray. IMAX "DMR" is additional processing that IMAX does to the master, mostly involving noise reduction and edge enhancement. You don't want that stuff infesting the Blu-ray.
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post #10 of 46
8/16/12 at 11:25am
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This would be great news except for the fact that many of the theaters in the country screening this IMAX version will be Fake IMAX theaters. I have a Fake IMAX within easy driving distance which I've never attended and an IMAX a little farther away which is NOT showing this according to the IMAX website. Now I'm forced to looked at IMAX theaters within 2 hours driving time and from this list decide which are fake and which are real. Or just wait for the Blu-ray collection to come out and watch the film in my home theater - yet there is something special about reliving a classic like this on the BIG screen once again.
http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2012/08/15/drew-struzan-inspired-imax-poster-for-raiders-of-the-lost-ark
I dislike fake IMAX as much as the next person but - wouldn't digital 4K IMAX (provided this isn't the case*) match the quality of 35mm film?

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A number of years ago some IMAX engineers - and I don't think IMAX ever let these guys out of their lab again -- did this wonderfully elegant experiment at the Large Film Format Seminar at Universal Studios Imax theatre. They showed this film they made that began with 2 rows of 2 squares: black white, white black, as if you had 4 pixels on the screen.

Then they started to double and double and double the squares. Before they got to 4K the screen was gray. Do you know what the means? There was no longer any difference between black and white, which is what allows you to see sharpness. It's the contrast that we see, not the actual information. Technically, the MTF (Modulation Transfer Function) was zero at 4K!
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post #11 of 46
8/16/12 at 11:25am
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This would be great news except for the fact that many of the theaters in the country screening this IMAX version will be Fake IMAX theaters. I have a Fake IMAX within easy driving distance which I've never attended and an IMAX a little farther away which is NOT showing this according to the IMAX website. Now I'm forced to looked at IMAX theaters within 2 hours driving time and from this list decide which are fake and which are real. Or just wait for the Blu-ray collection to come out and watch the film in my home theater - yet there is something special about reliving a classic like this on the BIG screen once again.

http://www.dailyblam.com/news/2012/08/15/drew-struzan-inspired-imax-poster-for-raiders-of-the-lost-ark

Same problem here, Jordans isn't covering it.
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post #12 of 46
8/16/12 at 11:29am
A theater near me is faux-max but it still offers a quality movie going experience. I'll definitely partake of the special screening to, like-wise, relive the classic.
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post #13 of 46
8/16/12 at 12:05pm
AMC is doing an Indiana Jones Movie Marathon as well--$25, free poster & lanyard, Indian Jones all day long. Woohoo!

I wonder if they'd run the Holy Grail second so I wouldn't have to watch the two stupid ones.
Edited by repete66211 - 8/16/12 at 2:18pm
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post #14 of 46
8/16/12 at 1:58pm
I have been pondering this all day. No IMAX theaters real close to me here. (A dome about 2 hours west, and I think a regular one 2 hours east)

BUT, I will be traveling for work starting Monday, Sept 10th and will be staying in New Rochelle, NY. The New Roc City has a Regal 18 Stadium & IMAX that will be showing it. I don't know anything more about that theater, but I am temped to buy my ticket now for the 7:15 show on the 10th. I wonder if it is like other theaters where you can reserve a specific seat? Of course, the ticket ordering is through Fandango for what that's worth.
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post #15 of 46
8/16/12 at 2:12pm
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AMC is doing an Indiana Jones Movie Marathon as well--$25, free poster & lanyard, Indian Jones all day long. Woohoo!
I wonder if they'd run the Holy Grail second so I wouldn't have to watch the two stupid ones.

The reality of this is it's a good deal! But that's a long time to sit in a theater. Particularly when I'm not quite as passionate about TOD & KOCS. Anyone on this thread ever do a marathon like this before? I'm wondering if I could go see Raiders, skip Temple and go get lunch or something, come back for Crusade and after that, see how I feel about the last one? I may have missed it but are these in IMAX too? If not, I'd rather do Raiders in IMAX and call it even.
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post #16 of 46
8/16/12 at 2:17pm
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The reality of this is it's a good deal! But that's a long time to sit in a theater. Particularly when I'm not quite as passionate about TOD & KOCS. Anyone on this thread ever do a marathon like this before? I'm wondering if I could go see Raiders, skip Temple and go get lunch or something, come back for Crusade and after that, see how I feel about the last one? I may have missed it but are these in IMAX too? If not, I'd rather do Raiders in IMAX and call it even.
I've never done a marathon like this, but it sounds like fun if nothing else is going on. But since I've seen #1 and #3 on the big screen not too long ago I too might just do the IMAX.
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post #17 of 46
8/16/12 at 3:57pm
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Anyone on this thread ever do a marathon like this before?

I mentioned, in my previous post above, that I sat through that benefit marathon at the Wang Center back in '94, when there were only the first three films. But marathons are nothing new to me--I've been to two Star Trek movie marathons (movies 1~6 first, then 1~8 several years later), and I recently did that Marvel marathon for the release of The Avengers back in May, plus a Star Wars original trilogy marathon at the Wang in '93. I've been around, needless to say.

Now that I know about the Indy marathon, I'm planning on going to it. I'm not too keen on Temple of Doom myself--it's my least favorite of the four (even Crystal Skull was better than that one IMO), but since I haven't seen most of these films on a big screen in 18 years, I'm not going to complain much about one out of four.
Edited by LineWalker - 8/28/12 at 12:34pm
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post #18 of 46
8/17/12 at 11:04am
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I dislike fake IMAX as much as the next person but - wouldn't digital 4K IMAX (provided this isn't the case*) match the quality of 35mm film?

Digital IMAX is two 2k projectors, not 4k.

Regardless, in my experience, IMAX "DMR" does nasty stuff to 35mm movies when blown up to full 15/70. I'd rather see something like this in a digital theater, and save 15/70 for movies actually photographed in that format.
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post #19 of 46
8/18/12 at 9:06pm
What are these fake IMAX theaters you guys are talking about?
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post #20 of 46
8/19/12 at 12:01am
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What are these fake IMAX theaters you guys are talking about?

Two critical articles from 2008/09 when fake IMAX was launched. Not much has happened to the technical standard since then. An upgrade to digital IMAX is projected to start in 2013 (maybe), when laser projectors based on the patents IMAX bought from Kodak will get built by Barco. It is possible that also will be the start of the end of 15 perf. 70mm film IMAX projection.
Just cross your fingers that they at least start out with 4K resolution.

That's not the IMAX I grew up with

Is IMAX the next "New Coke"?
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post #21 of 46
8/19/12 at 8:59am
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What are these fake IMAX theaters you guys are talking about?
They've switched to digital projection without increase in resolution. 2K, even 4K resolution is inferior to 70mm (15/70) film. Two things are shameful. Most of the time they advertise it as "true IMAX experience" or something similar and sometimes they claim two 2K projectors are equal to 4K resolution which is simply not true.
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post #22 of 46
8/20/12 at 9:05am
And as the LFE Examiner points out there is the matter of screen size.



http://www.lfexaminer.com/20081016.htm
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post #23 of 46
8/20/12 at 9:16am
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I've never done a marathon like this, but it sounds like fun if nothing else is going on. But since I've seen #1 and #3 on the big screen not too long ago I too might just do the IMAX.

they are alot of fun specially if you get a great audience that is really into it.. from clapping when certain people show up (joker, stan lee), laughing at the funny parts in the movie and just having a good time. my first marathon was back to the future when part 3 came out. this summer I did both the avengers and dark knight. they are alot of fun. highly recommend if you can do it.

Jacob
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post #24 of 46
8/21/12 at 6:43am
The indian jones series of movies when my favor movies growing, but being 20 i totally missed seeing there in theater. I cant wait to see this Imax or not it i will still be a completely new experience for me. smile.gif
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post #25 of 46
8/22/12 at 5:23am

I have already purchased two seats for a September 7 showing here in my area.

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post #26 of 46
8/22/12 at 7:28am
I saw this quote on wikipedia, dont know if I feel better or worse after it.
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But in August 2012, IMAX and Paramount Pictures announced a one-week exclusive re-release of Raiders of the Lost Ark on September 7th, 2012, to promote the release of the Blu-Ray collection. The film, before it underwent through DMR, was already restored in a 4K digital intermediate with 7.1 surround sound from the original negative. The process for IMAX theaters, like with the complete restoration, was supervised by Steven Spielberg and sound designer Ben Burtt. "I didn’t know if the 1981 print would stand up to a full IMAX transfer, so I came expecting a sort of grainy, muddy, and overly enlarged representation of the movie I had made years ago," Spielberg said. "I was blown away by the fact that it looked better than the movie I had made years ago."
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post #27 of 46
8/22/12 at 10:38am
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I have already purchased two seats for a September 7 showing here in my area.

I got my ticket for september 11. and yes I know about that important date.

Jacob
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post #28 of 46
8/22/12 at 1:12pm
Am I the only one saying "meh" to this IMAX presentation?
Not sure if my local IMAX will be showing this, but I wouldn't go anyway.
The IMAX assault on my ears ain't worth it.

The BDs are coming and that works for me.
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post #29 of 46
8/22/12 at 1:21pm
Well, I don't see ANY real IMAX theaters with this after a search. It appears that it's all Digital LIEmax. That makes sense. A one week run wouldn't pay for the 15/70 prints.

Still worth seeing, in my view.
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post #30 of 46
8/22/12 at 1:43pm
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Am I the only one saying "meh" to this IMAX presentation?
Not sure if my local IMAX will be showing this, but I wouldn't go anyway.
The IMAX assault on my ears ain't worth it.
The BDs are coming and that works for me.

the amc theatres will be doing a indy marathon on september 15th. you might be interested in that.

Jacob
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