ViewSonic announces new video processors - Page 3  

Actually, I talked to my wife about it and she was interested in ponying up the extra cash (yes, she's in charge at my house) for the NV5 or NV6.

But, I'm wondering if these would actually do very much more for me than the VB50. I'm planning on getting a Sony 1031 which will only do 540p anyway.

I just spoke to a Viewsonic Tech... he was not willing to give me much info other than:

-Canadian Availability by Mid August, US by early August

-No aspect ratio control

-Support for 4:3 displays only (16:9 is letterboxed)

-He had some sort of unnoficial document that he was not allowed to send out, but he was willing to answer specific questions, so if someone more techincal, and just as impatient as me wants to call... they might be able to get more info.

;)

Thats a big step back seeing how many HDTVs are 16:9, this is meant for HDTVs and that the VB50 had support for a 16:9 resolution (856x480,which I'm watching now!)

"Thats a big step back seeing how many HDTVs are 16:9, this is meant for HDTVs..."
Actually, no, it's meant for LCD (and CRT) computer monitors, a very few of which just happen to have the 16x9 or 16x10 AR. We globbed on to these for HT because the quality with video was reasonably good, and the VB50 could be obtained for less than $100. Anything with the "HDTV" buzzword is still big bucks...

Ok, here goes... I am wondering then. I have a AE100 ont he Way and a Da-Lite 119" Perm-Wall Screen. I have a Sony Progrssive DVD player that looks great on my 16x9 Panasonic 47" HDTV (don't know how it will look on the AE100, but I hope great). I also have a Laser Disc Player and my Sony SAT T-60 DirecTivo. What I am wondering is should I just get the VB50 now and run my DVD player straight into the Y,Pb,Pr inputes, and then hook my laserdisc / Tivo via my Denon AVR-5800's S-Video to the VB50, and also my computer (used for surfing) and send all of that from the VB50 to the AE100 via the RGB (VGA D-SUB15) connector?

Sorry if my question is old and asked a thousand times, but I have been searching all day for this answer, and can't seem to find the right answer.

cheers
scott

Viewsonic has posted info on the 5

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/vi...extvision5.htm

Nevermind the specs are for the vb50. It just says it's the Nextvision 5.

Wait a minute, I thought the NV 5 was supposed to be $150.
I just checked the Viewsonic homepage and it is listed at $199 !


I rechecked the news release:

"At an estimated street price of $149, the NextVision 5 provides enhanced picture quality, along with a stylized industrial design that allows for horizontal or vertical placement on a desk or shelf to save users considerable space. "

http://www.hdtvbuyer.com/2002/05_may...onic_monit.htm

and the NV 6 was supposed to be $ 199.
"At an estimated street price of $199... The NextVision 6 transforms displays that support up to 1280x1024 resolution into HDTV and digital televison "

What is different/better about the NV 5 that they now want 1.5x the price of the VB50HRTV?

Hmmm, rethinking my need for the Nextvision series. May just go with a VB50HRTV.

-Yancy

The "street price" for the VB50 is $129 even though some discounters sell is for less than $100. Some time ago I recall seeing a listing for the VB50 that said the retail price for the VB50 was $149. I'm not certain where on the Viewsonic web site you saw the price listed at $199 for the Nextvision 5 (I can't find this price on their web site but their online store it down). I expect the Nextvision 5 is really only an addtional $20 or so over the VB50 and it will probably discount in the $120 range. Although the features are simular between the VB50 and the Nextvision 5 perhaps the newer product uses an improved de-interlace and scaling chip set. Also there are several 'issues' with the VB50 that may be overcome with the Nextvision 5 (e.g., very course video adjustments, requires a very stable input signal, etc.). In any case Home Theater owners should really be focused on the Nextvision 6 instead of the Nextvision 5. The 720p and 1080i resolutions of the Nextvision 6 combined with a component video input will be well worth the addition $50 (vs. the Nextvision 5) for the vast majority of home theater owners.

Ron Jones
www.dtvmax.com

does anyone know what kind of de-interlacer the NextVision 6 used?

compare to the Iscan Pro, AA and Key Digital transcoders, this is a bargain regardless. I will hook this up to a panny ae100, w/o getting a VGA DVD player from oversea. Also, it can be used to connect my Laser Disk player and S-VHS VCR. Love the remote control and the close caption option too, over my HTPC.

August is coming up fast.

lenny

Has anyone decided if the Nextvisions can do PAL as well as NTSC?

EmuMannen
How did you go with the Briteview and/lor Zinwell?
Have you had a chance to test them yet?

still hoping that I can get a low cost solution instead of the Iscan Pro V2 for these things as they are DAMN expensive over here. Unless anyone has one they want to get rid of?

:D

cheers
Andre Starck

Andre, there is a European PAL version due out in late Aug/early Sept but whether the US version actually does PAL as well as NTSC, I'd doubt it.
Paul

I am on vacation, I will contact Zinwell again as soon as I get back in a veek or two to finally discuss price and delivery...

Last info was that the unit should be ready to be shipped in the end on July, well thats about now then :)

Paul
thanks for that. I guess that the European version will only do PAL as well and thus I'm still going to be on the hunt for a unit that will do both correctly. Damn :(

EmuMannen
Great to hear and I'm really looking forward to a review of the unit from you. I'll hold off on the PV100 as that doesn't have component input and doesn't have 16x9 squeeze as far as I can tell either.

Thanks again all.

Andre,
I'm told the Euro version will do PAL and NTSC!
Paul

[quote]Originally posted by dragonbud0
[b]does anyone know what kind of de-interlacer the NextVision 6 used?

compare to the Iscan Pro, AA and Key Digital transcoders, this is a bargain regardless. I will hook this up to a panny ae100, w/o getting a VGA DVD player from oversea. Also, it can be used to connect my Laser Disk player and S-VHS VCR. Love the remote control and the close caption option too, over my HTPC.

August is coming up fast.



Dear Lenny,

I cant speak for other manufacturers, but i can assure you that our transcoder (VGA to component or Component to VGA) work with EVERY (99%) display WITHOUT any signal degredation, picture bending, soft picture, etc... on the market as we have over 12 different dip switches to compensate for different sync signals, and we use 75 ohms from start to finish. Its possible that the unit will work fine with your set up, and thats great for you.

If this scaler is based on Zinwell OEM, than i can tell you that if you spent more than $10,000 on your A/V HT set up, this $200 is waist of your money. We have tested Zinwell scalers (all of them) and we have found 14 bugs in them. I can list them all but than Zinwell will make another unit based on our findings. I can start with 1 bug & (few i mentioned on top), its called de-interlacing chip: the cost of this chip is $3 and yes it scales upto 1080p, but it does not do a good job. I can assure you that you are better off, letting the internal chip of your display do the scaling, MUCH BETTER RESULTS.
Thank you

Dear Michael,

Thank you for your insight.

I'm sure one gets what one pays for, the majority of the time. Key Digitial makes high end product, such as your Leeza. I did look into the KD-CTCA1 but it was discontinued. The other KD-CTCA2 was a bit pricey in my case, since my Panny ae100 only costs me $1,500 from oversea; even my next projector, circa 2003, would not top $3,000.

lenny

A marketing type from Viewsonic was on Cnet radio today plugging the NextView 5. Of interest was pricing, NextView 5 $199 and the NextView 6 to be released at the end of August for around $399.

Hi Lenny,

I understand! Sorry we couldn't help you!
Thank you

Hello Babastik

Are NV5 & NV6 based on Zinwell OEM?
Thank you

It appears Viewsonic decided to double the price on the Nextvision 6 from that announced in their press release a couple of months ago. It appears that the selling price is not closely related to their costs but rather to what they feel the customers are willing to pay. We'll see if the new $399 price sticks or drops over the next few months.

Ron Jones
www.dtvmax.com

Who here has a NextVision 5, and how does it compare to the lesser priced VB50???

Bump
Anyone have any of these yet?
Or any of the Zinwells?

I just talked with a ViewSonic rep and they are slating the NextVision 6 for a September release, which means probably more like October or so.

I just installed a NextVision 5 on my Sony VPH-1251Q projector. Running the 1024 resolution resulted in very noticeable smoothing on my 100" screen. No more scan lines. This is my first doubler, so I have no basis for comparison. It was a snap to use and I am very pleased. Wish the price was the original $150, but at $200 I have no complaints and enjoy the picture quality a great deal more. The remote is kind of flimsy, but I use a Pronto. My only complaint is that I do not have discrete buttons for teh input, making Pronto programming less fun. I bought this from the ViewSonic web site.:)

Ahhhhhhhhhhh at least a tester :)
So you'll have to tell us everything about it ^_^
How does it behave with sports on satellite, do you see any artifacts at all ? on DVDs ?
How are the settings for the colors and things like that... ? i had a VB50 before and the major complain about it was that the setting were way too corse to do anything.

Pierre

No artifacts at all. All sources seem to be about the same, unlike before where there was a noticable difference between cable, VSR, DVD and SAT. The color controls are TV standard - brightness, contrast, sharpness, hue, saturation, etc. It has auto channel search and memory, channel labeling, etc. The range of adjustment on the color. brightness, etc. appears to be narrower than most TV controls but are effective. Any other questions?

One last question
Is there any chance that it supports PAL as well as NTSC?