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post #211 of 1014
10/27/12 at 11:51pm
Their is no such thing as a Natural lamp setting. Natural is a picture mode. Lamp setting are under the Energy section of Setup and are either Standard or Bright.
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post #212 of 1014
10/28/12 at 5:41am
Can anyone confirm that they're able to watch 3D movies on vudu?
I just got a WD-73742 and have no problem watching the "2 minute 3D demos," but recent trailers will NOT synch to display 3D (I'm using True Depth glasses with DPL Link). I spoke with Vuvu support who informed me that Mitsubishi has not yet released the software upgrade that's needed to view current Vudu 3D content. Couldn't believe it so I contacted Mitsubishi customer service. Not sure the agent even understood what I was asking, but after placing me on hold for a couple of minutes stated that "Mitsubishi does not yet have a projected date for that upgrade." I found that impossible to believe and asked to speak with someone higher up in technical support to discuss this further. The agent put me on hold a second time and came back to say that someone from that dept would call me back "within two days." If that's true, I should hear back from someone on Monday. Wondering in the meantime if the vudu rep was correct (that my set is simply not currently compatible with vudu 3D content) or if the problem is mine alone?
Any feedback would be much appreciated!
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post #213 of 1014
10/28/12 at 6:32am
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I've noticed slight rainbows myself with this and other DLP units when I first got them. You notice them now because you're thinking about it, but with time you won't see them...just the beautiful picture.

Unfortunately I didnt do the research that the problem even existed. I kinda just jumped the gun when i got the tv for the price I did. Didnt even know of the potential issue until I started to experience it on the very first day. Im wondering if it might be a convergence issue that an ISF guy might be able to fix. Best buy offers a free calibration visit to the PremierSilver rewards members. Wondering if i should take them up on it before i have to return the set. Ive sat everywhere from 10-15 FT back and its still persistent. Ive had the 82742 now for 3 days and i can barely watch it. Eye strain and headaches after about a half hour, never had a problem with other Rear Projection in the past.
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post #214 of 1014
10/30/12 at 10:46am
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Unfortunately I didnt do the research that the problem even existed. I kinda just jumped the gun when i got the tv for the price I did. Didnt even know of the potential issue until I started to experience it on the very first day. Im wondering if it might be a convergence issue that an ISF guy might be able to fix. Best buy offers a free calibration visit to the PremierSilver rewards members. Wondering if i should take them up on it before i have to return the set. Ive sat everywhere from 10-15 FT back and its still persistent. Ive had the 82742 now for 3 days and i can barely watch it. Eye strain and headaches after about a half hour, never had a problem with other Rear Projection in the past.

Most people don't have a problem with it. If you do and it is causing the kind of problems for you that it is.. time to go to plan B:

There is no covergence to adjust. This is an artifact to having a color wheel and the speed at which the color wheel runs. Calibration really does not offer a solution you are just super sensitive to it apparently. In my case I had to learn to see it, to see it. Then I just ignored and it went away. I can see probably if I have white text on a black background and shake my head back and forth vigorously... othersiwe no way. I have owned 5 different DLP sets over the years.
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post #215 of 1014
10/30/12 at 1:26pm
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Does anyone have any tips they could give me on potentially improving my 3D viewing experience? Are my glasses causing the problem? They were not cheap, so I am hoping that I don't have to experiment with different glasses. Is it normal to have different settings for 3D viewing (increased brightness or different picture modes)? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Well, after some more time viewing 3D content, I think changing the picture mode to Bright had the biggest impact in improving the overall image quality in 3d. In Bright mode, the colors appear way too saturated in 2D. But in 3D, the increased saturation helps compensate for the darkening effect caused by the glasses.

I am curious if the different picture modes have different base color/tint settings, or if the perceived color changes are only due to the increase in light output.
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post #216 of 1014
11/1/12 at 6:54am
I have a 2009 65" DLP and am wondering if getting a 2012 or 2013 (when they come out) 82" is worth it.

What are the main differences I will see other than the obvious bigger screen?

I have the 3d kit for my 2009 set. Will the Glasses IR Glassed work with this one without the converter box?

Also how is 3d on this thing. Is it still half the resolution as with mine or can you get full 1080p per eye?

I am getting that itch to upgrade my TV but to a bigger and better screen. I am torn between an 82" DLP or the Sharp LED 70+ in ones (althought I have heard bad things about quality) or projector.
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post #217 of 1014
11/1/12 at 9:18am
No one can speak to 2013 models as there has been no information - this, of course, is normal, why would Mitusbishi speak about new models before the biggest selling season for the current models. You most likely will not hear about the 2013 models until CES in January or after. Mitsubishi usually does not discuss new models unitl close to introduction and that begins in the May or June time frame. About the only 2013 models any manufacturer discusses before Thanksgiving will be very special new technology model which normally are priced outside of the main stream product range.

As for current models - 82" is a HUGH jump from 65". If the environment and viewing conditions are correct, the 82" is very very good. As for 3D, for the current 3D models, you do not need the adapter. As for glasses and IR emitters, there are 3 models of 3D 82" TVs, http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/. One has only DLP Link and a VESA jack (the VESA jack is the jack you plug the IR emitter into). The next step up has a built-in IR emitter, plus the DLP Link and VESA jack. The built-in IR emitter is not compatible with the glasses from your kit but you can turn that off and use the IR emitter from your kit plugged directly into the back of the TV. The top of the line has a Bluetooth RF emitter, DLP Link and the VESA jack. Your glasses are not Bluetooth but you can turn that off as well and plug your IR emitter into the back of the TV.

As for the 1/2 resolution per eye issue, the numbers do not indicate the real preceive performance. Yes the TV still displays 3D in a checkerboard pattern which techinally is 1/2 the number of pixels per eye, however this still gives 1080 lines and 1920 columns of pixels per eye. It is every other pixel per line or column instead of every pixel. In performance, this looks to the eye very close to Full HD per eye without the black lines between each active line and jagged diagonals seen in passive TVs. Also the DLPs with checkerboard 3D have the lowest amount of crosstalk (double imaging) of all display techniques and a very wided viewing angle in 3D (almost the same as in 2D). Also keep in mind that 720p Frame Pack (PS3 3D gaming) and Top/Bottom or Side-by-Side 3D (satellite and cable) are all already less than Full HD 3D and all 1080p 3D TVs have to manipulate those resolutions to fill the screen and some are not as good as the checkerboard system for this.
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post #218 of 1014
11/1/12 at 9:44am
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No one can speak to 2013 models as there has been no information - this, of course, is normal, why would Mitusbishi speak about new models before the biggest selling season for the current models. You most likely will not hear about the 2013 models until CES in January or after. Mitsubishi usually does not discuss new models unitl close to introduction and that begins in the May or June time frame. About the only 2013 models any manufacturer discusses before Thanksgiving will be very special new technology model which normally are priced outside of the main stream product range.
As for current models - 82" is a HUGH jump from 65". If the environment and viewing conditions are correct, the 82" is very very good. As for 3D, for the current 3D models, you do not need the adapter. As for glasses and IR emitters, there are 3 models of 3D 82" TVs, http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/. One has only DLP Link and a VESA jack (the VESA jack is the jack you plug the IR emitter into). The next step up has a built-in IR emitter, plus the DLP Link and VESA jack. The built-in IR emitter is not compatible with the glasses from your kit but you can turn that off and use the IR emitter from your kit plugged directly into the back of the TV. The top of the line has a Bluetooth RF emitter, DLP Link and the VESA jack. Your glasses are not Bluetooth but you can turn that off as well and plug your IR emitter into the back of the TV.
As for the 1/2 resolution per eye issue, the numbers do not indicate the real preceive performance. Yes the TV still displays 3D in a checkerboard pattern which techinally is 1/2 the number of pixels per eye, however this still gives 1080 lines and 1920 columns of pixels per eye. It is every other pixel per line or column instead of every pixel. In performance, this looks to the eye very close to Full HD per eye without the black lines between each active line and jagged diagonals seen in passive TVs. Also the DLPs with checkerboard 3D have the lowest amount of crosstalk (double imaging) of all display techniques and a very wided viewing angle in 3D (almost the same as in 2D). Also keep in mind that 720p Frame Pack (PS3 3D gaming) and Top/Bottom or Side-by-Side 3D (satellite and cable) are all already less than Full HD 3D and all 1080p 3D TVs have to manipulate those resolutions to fill the screen and some are not as good as the checkerboard system for this.

GREAT!!! Awesome post.

So I sit about 8 ft from my 65in. Would that still be good for the 82". I like being up close.

Do you know how much the 82" ones go for?

Also I see a bunch of versions. i think a C Series and 8 series / Diamond. Which would you get or does it matter?

Still debating a 82" DLP over a Projector. My basement doesnt get much light.
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post #219 of 1014
11/1/12 at 10:35am
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Can anyone confirm that they're able to watch 3D movies on vudu?
I just got a WD-73742 and have no problem watching the "2 minute 3D demos," but recent trailers will NOT synch to display 3D (I'm using True Depth glasses with DPL Link). I spoke with Vuvu support who informed me that Mitsubishi has not yet released the software upgrade that's needed to view current Vudu 3D content. Couldn't believe it so I contacted Mitsubishi customer service. Not sure the agent even understood what I was asking, but after placing me on hold for a couple of minutes stated that "Mitsubishi does not yet have a projected date for that upgrade." I found that impossible to believe and asked to speak with someone higher up in technical support to discuss this further. The agent put me on hold a second time and came back to say that someone from that dept would call me back "within two days." If that's true, I should hear back from someone on Monday. Wondering in the meantime if the vudu rep was correct (that my set is simply not currently compatible with vudu 3D content) or if the problem is mine alone?
Any feedback would be much appreciated!

FWIW (apparently, I'm alone in this concern), a Mitsubishi representative did return my call and said it would be "at least a year" before their DLPs will support current vudu 3D streaming content. I was hoping to enjoy 3D without having to purchase a new blu-ray player. And if I wasn't so pleased with its performance otherwise, I would have returned the TV and purchased something else .. just on principle.
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post #220 of 1014
11/1/12 at 11:32am
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FWIW (apparently, I'm alone in this concern), a Mitsubishi representative did return my call and said it would be "at least a year" before their DLPs will support current vudu 3D streaming content. I was hoping to enjoy 3D without having to purchase a new blu-ray player. And if I wasn't so pleased with its performance otherwise, I would have returned the TV and purchased something else .. just on principle.

VUDU 3D works on my TV. Howver I have yet to find a "trailer" that is in 3D. The "trailers" seem to be:
1. SD only
2. 2D only.

The "2 minute previews" are the actual material you get when you rent or purchase the movie and as you said, these work.

Are you sure your "trailers" are supposed to be 3D?
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post #221 of 1014
11/2/12 at 2:37pm
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VUDU 3D works on my TV. Howver I have yet to find a "trailer" that is in 3D. The "trailers" seem to be:
1. SD only
2. 2D only.
The "2 minute previews" are the actual material you get when you rent or purchase the movie and as you said, these work.
Are you sure your "trailers" are supposed to be 3D?

You know ... if there's one thing I like better than bad information, it's plenty of it. Vudu 3D works! Nevermind Vudu saying it won't on my WD-73742. Nevermind that Mitsubishi concurred and a senior level guy even called me back to "apologize" and to deliver the bad news that it would be at least a year before it would. Decided to actually try it today ... on a new movie (The Avengers, 2012). Works like a champ!

The b-st-rds completely wasted my time and patience. And I, in turn, wasted yours. Sorry .....
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post #222 of 1014
11/5/12 at 4:26am
My 73842 arrived a few days ago, and I'm very much enjoying it! First time DLP owner... always had plasmas in the past. I'm shocked and pleasantly surprised as to how beautiful the picture is. I was watching a movie the other night and at one point, the picture went to a black screen (was part of the movie). Well when that happened, I noticed a a brighter area of the screen, in the 10 oclock position. Picture attached. The bright area is hard to see in the photo, but in person it is evident enough. The brighter area is shaped like a quarter of a circle. Is this normal? So I changed channels and when the pitcure goes black for a few seconds in between, I still noticed it. When I turn the cable box off, and the screen is black, I still notice it.




I dont nit pick at all and I dont go looking for problems, but just wanna know if this is just the nature of the TV or should I have a tech look at it? Seems like the light is coming out brighter just in that part of the screen
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post #223 of 1014
11/5/12 at 5:37am
likely a reflection from an overhead room light or a window.

Turn lights off one by one until reflection disappears.
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post #224 of 1014
11/5/12 at 6:40am
No it isn't a reflection. The first time I noticed it, it was when I was watching a movie in pitch black.
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post #225 of 1014
11/6/12 at 8:33am
I'm thinking about purchasing the WD-82742. I've haven't had a rear projection TV in about 6 years since I sold my Mits 55". 82" with 3D for less than $2K vs. Sharp 80" with 3D for less then $5K seem quite attractive. So I have questions:

1) My kids watch a lot of TV while laying on the ground with a pillow. If they are about 10" feet from the TV laying on the ground and the TV is on a 23" high stand, will the image be dimmer then sitting in a chair (like with the old rear projection screens)? If so, how significant?

2) I was thinking about purchasing it from Pau's TV. I've never used them or heard about them until I started researching this TV. Has everyone had good experiences with Paul's? Do you they unpack the TV and test it as part of their white glove delivery? I would hate to have a TV shipped with the box in good condition (thus accepting it from the freight company) but didn't notice the TV has issues/damage until hours after delivery.

3) Will I be happy with going back to rear projection technology? How is the reliability of the rear pro units been over the last few years?

Thanks in advance for your feedback.
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post #226 of 1014
11/6/12 at 12:20pm
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2) I was thinking about purchasing it from Pau's TV. I've never used them or heard about them until I started researching this TV. Has everyone had good experiences with Paul's? Do you they unpack the TV and test it as part of their white glove delivery? I would hate to have a TV shipped with the box in good condition (thus accepting it from the freight company) but didn't notice the TV has issues/damage until hours after delivery.
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I just purchased my 73742 from Paul's TV. They have a local store in my area, so I purchased it locally. However, I did end up paying for the delivery and setup. The TV was delivered a couple days later. Upon setup, I noticed it had a black spot on the screen about half the size of a dime. They finished setting up the TV and recorded the defect. I got a call from the store about 30 minutes after the delivery guys left and I was told that they would replace the set as soon as possible. Sure enough, the new TV was delivered and set up the next day. The new TV was perfect.

Based on my experience with Paul's TV, I would definitely recommend them. They took the time to inspect the TV upon setup and they were very concerned with my satisfaction as a customer.
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post #227 of 1014
11/7/12 at 8:25am
Hi Fletch,

If you go back a few pages, you will see my posts for this same exact problem. According to the local Southern California Mitsubishi authorized repair company this is a MAJOR DEFECT that Mitsubishi has not or will not acknowledge. Many owners will never notice it, which I'm sure Mitsubishi is praying for. But if you are a person like you or I who watch letterbox content, it makes the experience very bad. Want real fun? Just TRY watching the first fifteen minutes of INCEPTION BluRay. I dare you. I double-dog dare you. Now that you've noticed it, you will see this issue whenever there is high contrast images with a dark background in the top 3rd of the screen.

Bought mine from Paul's, they swapped it out. I told them I was willing to try a 3rd unit, but the rep told me that they have been receiving other complaints for this issue and will exchange or refund the purchase. I'm now waiting for the 65" Panasonic GT plasmas to come in stock to get exchanged.

Some notes-
This replaced a Sony RPTV, I know what to expect.
My son has an older Mits, and used to sell Mits & he told me the first evening that my new TV was defective. His has no similar issue.
When I spoke to the Mitsubishi customer rep, he said the TVs 'shouldn't do that.'
Went to Mathis Brothers store with my son- nice display wall o' TVs. They had most of the Mits models on display from 73 - 92". The rep let me play the Digital Essentials calibration DVD- EVERY NEW MITS HAS THIS ISSUE.

This frustrates me incredibly because the image quality when full screen without dark/light contrast is great.

Since Mitsubishi is not doing anything about this you will need to make the decision on whether you can live with this issue or not.
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post #228 of 1014
11/7/12 at 9:10am
Hey guys,
I need some help please.
I am a new owner of the amaz WD73742 TV! I love it!

So now I need to get some 3d glasses for it, but I have no idea which ones are considered good and which ones to get. I understand that the 742 series has some kind of 3d module built-in but I'm not sure how that will affect my glasses purchase.

Could anyone help me out? Cost is definitely a factor so no $300 glasses please smile.gif
I will probably start with a pair, one for me and one for a guest? Do you guys recommend them being the same quality? etc...

Thanks so much in advance.
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post #229 of 1014
11/7/12 at 9:26am
Just looking for some advice. I currently own a wd73838 and I'm pretty happy with it except for an issue that started months ago that I contacted Mitsubishi about and they sent out a repair tech. 4 digital boards later the problem I'm having now is the audio keeps crackling and is present on all inputs. It gets worse when watching a DVD or bluray whereas the sound cuts in and out every few seconds. No crackling on DVD or bluray but just cuts out continually through the movie. Like I said earlier it has seen 4 digital boards since august and every board has created its own set of problems. Here's where the need for advice comes in. Tomorrow I'm scheduled for a delivery of a new from Mitsubishi wd73842. I'm tempted to keep it in the box and sell it and take some of the proceeds to replace the digital board on my own. Other than the audio issue this TV is in mint shape. Question I have is the new wd73842 that much of an upgrade from the older wd73838. My set is currently 11 months old and Mitsubishi is sending a free replacement TV plus allowing me to keep my current set. Any advice would be appreciated.
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post #230 of 1014
11/7/12 at 2:25pm
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Hey guys,
I need some help please.
I am a new owner of the amaz WD73742 TV! I love it!
So now I need to get some 3d glasses for it, but I have no idea which ones are considered good and which ones to get. I understand that the 742 series has some kind of 3d module built-in but I'm not sure how that will affect my glasses purchase.
Could anyone help me out? Cost is definitely a factor so no $300 glasses please smile.gif
I will probably start with a pair, one for me and one for a guest? Do you guys recommend them being the same quality? etc...
Thanks so much in advance.

As for the “some kind of 3D module built-in”, there are two separate issues with 3D.
1. The ability to receive and process a 3D signal from a Blu-ray player, cable box or satellite receiver.
2. The compatibility with 3D glasses.
As I said these are separate issues.

For #1, yes the TV has the signal processing ability to handle and display 3D signals via HDMI. You do not need the Mitsubishi “Starter Kit” model 3DC-1000 or separate 3D adapter model 3DA-1 as this is already built-in.

For #2, Mitsubishi requires Active Shutter 3D Glasses (ASG). ASGs are glasses that are battery operated and allow only one eye to see the picture as at time. They alternate from one eye to the other so fast that you cannot see these changes. To be compatible there needs something to synchronize the glasses to the TV display.

The Mitsubishi provides three options for the synchronization of ASGs.

Sync option #1. Built-in Infrared (IR) light emitter. You need to make sure this is the setting in the TV 3D menu. This is built to the 3DMi standard (the same as Panasonic IR systems in Panasonic plasmas but not the Bluetooth or RF system). ASGs compatible with Panasonic system, marked or 3DMi or “Full HD 3D Glasses IR” (again not RF) will be compatible with the internal IR emitter. Mitsubishi recommends Xpand 3DG-X103 (made specifically for Mitsubishi TVs) or Xpand X103 Universal. Xpand also has X104 Universal glasses which are compatible. There are other brands as well.

Sync option #2. “DLP Link” glasses. Again you need to make sure this is the setting in the TV 3D menu. These use a special flash in the picture to synchronize the glasses. Any glasses marked “DLP Link” are compatible and there are several brands as well. Xpand also makes "DLP Link" glasses and so do other glasses manufacturers.

Sync option #3. External IR emitter or External RF transmitter. This must match the glasses you select to use. There is a jack in the back of the TV to plug the external emitter/transmitter into. The jack follows the VESA standards so the emitter/transmitter also needs to match that standard. Mitsubishi is one of the few TV companies that offer this jack as well as the internal IR emitter and DLP Link.

As for "which ones are considered good and which ones to get" there are no consensuses on that very question so there is no definitive answer. In short there are no perfect glasses so this question cannot be fully answered. In the 3D forums if AVS, every time someone asks this question or claims to have found the best glasses, there are several differing or disagreeing opinions. Below are shown several sites of glasses.

http://shopping.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AviKq99nl5e2S0BikWUIvFwbFt0A?p=3DG-X103&did=0
http://www.xpand.me/
http://www.ultimate3dheaven.com/ul3dgl.html
http://www.dimensionaloptics.com/3D_Active.aspx
http://www.edimensional.com/
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post #231 of 1014
11/7/12 at 4:11pm
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Originally Posted by lam23 View Post

You know ... if there's one thing I like better than bad information, it's plenty of it. Vudu 3D works! Nevermind Vudu saying it won't on my WD-73742. Nevermind that Mitsubishi concurred and a senior level guy even called me back to "apologize" and to deliver the bad news that it would be at least a year before it would. Decided to actually try it today ... on a new movie (The Avengers, 2012). Works like a champ!
The b-st-rds completely wasted my time and patience. And I, in turn, wasted yours. Sorry .....

Possibly you wasted some of the time on your own. You reported that your TV was not working with VUDU 3D when it was working.

I doubt that VUDU reps have all of the detailed information on any individual model of TV out of all of the different brands of TVs, Blu-ray players etc. that have VUDU support. And I doubt that Mitsubishi reps have all of the information about each variation of VUDU software (some manufacturers may support VUDU 3D and other may not and VUDU will vary slightly based on that alone). It is even possible some older Mitsubishi TVs that have VUDU don't support VUDU 3D formats. Two separate companies keeping track of all of the subtleties of the other company’s product is not always easy.

Mitsubishi has been supporting VUDU 3D for over a year now; so when you told Mits that the 3D was not working and VUDU said there was new 3D software, Mits assumed you were relaying accurate information and since software takes time to write AND fully test and get approval, they estimated a long period of time for new software.

The fact that your TV does work with VUDU 3D aready and there is no new software needed just confused the situation. After all you told Mitsubishi that it did not work and that VUDU said there was new software. Is it possible that you telling Mitsubishi this helped in the confusion? You really think the Mits reps can read minds and know you were giving them incorrect information?
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post #232 of 1014
11/10/12 at 4:00am
Stopped by HHGregg yesterday to hopefully see the 842 series and I noticed that no Mitsubishi DLPs were on display.

Salesman informed me that they are no longer being carried by the store.

I could only find one Mitsubishi DLP on HHGregg's website. It is the WD73C12.
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post #233 of 1014
11/10/12 at 5:25am
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Originally Posted by rjruby View Post

Stopped by HHGregg yesterday to hopefully see the 842 series and I noticed that no Mitsubishi DLPs were on display.
Salesman informed me that they are no longer being carried by the store.
I could only find one Mitsubishi DLP on HHGregg's website. It is the WD73C12.

Same thing with me.... No Mitsubishi in the store any more.

I really wanted to compare the mits to the SHARP....

No place near me where I can see the mits any more.
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post #234 of 1014
11/10/12 at 9:39am
Is there any consensus as to the best extended warranty for these big Mits TVs? I just received my Mits 82842(love it)&(my new 2 Hopper/1 Joey setup) yesterday and am considering canceling Paul's warranty. Had to blow it up 800% to even read it and it seems to me to leave too much discretion to the Company.
If this is not the correct place for this question please feel free to move it.

TIA

Ron
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post #235 of 1014
11/11/12 at 3:31pm
Hey guys.. add another upcoming 82742 owner to the club.

Ours is scheduled to arrive Thursday from Walt's. (They had the best price I could find on it.)

After reading some of the prior comments, I'm concerned a bit now about finding issues with it, and having to deal with them. I've never purcahsed something this large online.

They recommended opening the box as soon as its off the truck, and not signing until I've looked over the system for any potential shipping damage. Anything (Other than the usual physical damage signs) I should keep an eye out for?

Has there been a firmware update recently?

Also, we are fence sitting as to if we need the wifi connection. I'm running Universal Media Server on our ps3 for streaming content. Will that show up on the Mits itself, or will I be going through the ps3 anyway?

Also, is there any list of the services that will show up if we add the wifi? (I haven't found any list anywhere online.)

We are also considering adding 3d glasses... is there any best place online to order two pair to get the best bang for the buck?

How is the enhanced 2d->3d effect for gaming or general tv viewing.. worth while, or a waste of time gimmick?

I'm *so* glad to have finally found people who own these in a forum after 2 days of searching and coming up with limited user information.

Ours will have its back against the main window in the room, so we shouldn't have any viewing light issues.

Also, if we are using our ps3 as our bluray player, is there any reason to upgrade to the high speed hdmi cables? Would they make a diference on it?

Thanks for any tips/advice you can offer!

EDIT: Another question.. I know the dimensions are listed on the website, but can anyone measure the actual depth of the base? I have a older tv stand that looks like it would work, but its only 20" deep. It the set has inset feet, I might be able to use the old tv stand. the width shouldn't be an issue.. just the depth.
Edited by Gareee - 11/11/12 at 6:09pm
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post #236 of 1014
11/11/12 at 7:56pm
Hey guys. First post here. Got a 73742 from Paul's last week. Really good experience so far. It replaced a Samsung 61" DLP that had the dreaded white dot issue. I fought myself for a couple weeks on another DLP or a Panasonic Plasma. I'm glad I went with the DLP. The extra size really helps in my living room.

I'm running uverse and the HD on the major network channels looks pretty good (a&e, discovery, natgeo, etc.). The local channels in HD really isn't great. I know it's the programming source, so I'm not really worried about it. I also got vudu hooked up and watched an HDX rental - wow, picture quality was amazing. I was impressed with how easy it was to setup vudu - really easy to use.

Don't have any 3d glasses yet or a 3d blu ray player. Thinking about getting the blu ray player first so I can fiddle with a calibration bluray (like WOW). Don't have enough cash for a professional calibration, but I figure for 20 bucks I could try to get it a little better messing with it myself. I'm running out of the box settings now with the exception of I set the lamp setting to bright. If anyone has any "must do" calibration settings they'd like to share I'd love to hear about them.

Really enjoying the set so far. I mean I am coming from a 6 year old Sammy that was really jacked up, but I think this is a much much better TV. I hope it doesn't let me down quality wise. 😄
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post #237 of 1014
11/12/12 at 12:01am
I just got my WD-73742 this weekend from Paul's TV and this TV is incredible so far. This was the first TV I bought from Paul's TV and the service and delivery was awesome. Plus, the price was the best around for this model which I got for $1150 shipped with White Glove Delivery. I'm using the Sony Playstation 3D glasses for 3D gaming and movies. These glasses work great with this TV and they are a cheap alternative then using X103. Most stores have the glasses for $30 now, like Best Buy and Gamestop. I'm planning on getting the Disney WOW Blu-ray disc to calibrate the TV but, can anyone share their video setting?
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post #238 of 1014
11/12/12 at 8:06am
Do the playstation glasses work with the 82742, or would they need an emitter as well? Also, is there a general thread about 3d glasses anywhere here, or one specific to the 82742?

From what I'm reading, we'll want to replace our old hdmi cables with new hi speed hdmi cables.

With our current setup, all our hdmi devices went into our home stereo, and then that outputted to the 50" plasma.

From what I'm reading though, with this tv, we'll want to hook our hdmi devices up the the tv, and then use a digital coax cable to output audio to the stereo. Is that the correct setup?

Would we see/hear any significant difference if we just plugged the hdmi out from the stereo, and used it for switching video to the new TV? (Assuming we replaced all the standard hdmi cables with the new hi speed ones.)

While our TV travelled 1850 miles in two days, it looks like it'll take 4 MORE days for it to arrive from a 3 hour drive away. NOT happy about that, but nothing that can be done about it.

Lots to learn in a few days!
Edited by Gareee - 11/12/12 at 3:20pm
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post #239 of 1014
11/14/12 at 10:01am
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Originally Posted by GEP View Post

As for the “some kind of 3D module built-in”, there are two separate issues with 3D.
1. The ability to receive and process a 3D signal from a Blu-ray player, cable box or satellite receiver.
2. The compatibility with 3D glasses.
As I said these are separate issues.
For #1, yes the TV has the signal processing ability to handle and display 3D signals via HDMI. You do not need the Mitsubishi “Starter Kit” model 3DC-1000 or separate 3D adapter model 3DA-1 as this is already built-in.
For #2, Mitsubishi requires Active Shutter 3D Glasses (ASG). ASGs are glasses that are battery operated and allow only one eye to see the picture as at time. They alternate from one eye to the other so fast that you cannot see these changes. To be compatible there needs something to synchronize the glasses to the TV display.
The Mitsubishi provides three options for the synchronization of ASGs.
Sync option #1. Built-in Infrared (IR) light emitter. You need to make sure this is the setting in the TV 3D menu. This is built to the 3DMi standard (the same as Panasonic IR systems in Panasonic plasmas but not the Bluetooth or RF system). ASGs compatible with Panasonic system, marked or 3DMi or “Full HD 3D Glasses IR” (again not RF) will be compatible with the internal IR emitter. Mitsubishi recommends Xpand 3DG-X103 (made specifically for Mitsubishi TVs) or Xpand X103 Universal. Xpand also has X104 Universal glasses which are compatible. There are other brands as well.
Sync option #2. “DLP Link” glasses. Again you need to make sure this is the setting in the TV 3D menu. These use a special flash in the picture to synchronize the glasses. Any glasses marked “DLP Link” are compatible and there are several brands as well. Xpand also makes "DLP Link" glasses and so do other glasses manufacturers.
Sync option #3. External IR emitter or External RF transmitter. This must match the glasses you select to use. There is a jack in the back of the TV to plug the external emitter/transmitter into. The jack follows the VESA standards so the emitter/transmitter also needs to match that standard. Mitsubishi is one of the few TV companies that offer this jack as well as the internal IR emitter and DLP Link.
As for "which ones are considered good and which ones to get" there are no consensuses on that very question so there is no definitive answer. In short there are no perfect glasses so this question cannot be fully answered. In the 3D forums if AVS, every time someone asks this question or claims to have found the best glasses, there are several differing or disagreeing opinions. Below are shown several sites of glasses.
http://shopping.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AviKq99nl5e2S0BikWUIvFwbFt0A?p=3DG-X103&did=0
http://www.xpand.me/
http://www.ultimate3dheaven.com/ul3dgl.html
http://www.dimensionaloptics.com/3D_Active.aspx
http://www.edimensional.com/
Thanks, that is a wealth of knowledge. I really like the Dimensional Optics website, in that they've made it easy to see the glasses that work with a particular set and that you can bundle the number of glasses you need (no price break, however). So, does anyone have feedback on these? Thanks,
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post #240 of 1014
11/14/12 at 3:02pm
New owner with the 73742! Im excited but at the same time very frustrated about this, I am also the owner of a 65738 that ive had for barely over 2 years and absolutly loved he tv untill 6 months ago the tv started a flickering in the top right and left sides of the screen I replaced the bulb and it fixed it for about 4 months then it came back, I replaced the bulb yet again and this didnt fix it this time:mad: There is nobody in my area that fixes these tvs and sadly I didnt buy any extended warranty with this tv so I gave up on it thinking by the time i drive it hours away and possibly pay hundreds and hudreds dollars hoping they fixed it so I just broke down and orderd this tv from best buy it was too good a deal to pass up at only 1260. I paid 1899 for my 65738! I bought the 4 year warranty for this one so hopfully I have better luck this time, But I absolutly loved this tv I think the picture is just as good or better than any plasma or lcd tv out there.
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