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post #571 of 1188
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Originally Posted by andy sullivan View Post

If you were going to buy a new Mits which one would you choose right now. and why?

I'm just about ready to buy and most likely will get the 642 and some DLP glasses. I'm tossed between the 73 and 82 sizes. At the price of the DLP glasses, I save a little money over stepping up to the 742.

But I am concerned about support after mitsi gets out of dlps, not for bulbs as I finger worse case you can buy a bare bulb an reuse the housing. But the color wheel is more concerning.
post #572 of 1188
Okay, I have a 65736 and spare 65737, my question IS
Since they are doing away with DLP's (and I love the pic over other formats), IS the picture on a 73742 superior to the tv's I have or not so much??

I find it hard to believe it would be much of a difference but I've never seen a 73742.

Please help smile.gif If you say there isn't that much of a difference then you will save me some $$ to which my wife will be "very" grateful!
post #573 of 1188
I thought I read where DLP link washes the image some. I have a pair of the XpandX102 DLP link glasses that I bought a while ago but never used with my Sammy LED DLP set since I never got the 3D adapter. One of the reasons I decided not to use it was because I thought that using the DLP link and DLP Dlink glasses produces a washed out picture. (or a green tint or something. which is probably just dependent on the glasses used.) It seems like the newer 3D glasses have come a long ways from the Xpand X102 glasses I have. I know they used to cost around $100. The only reason I have them was because I bought a bunch of them in bulk and sold them. And the profit covered the one pair I kept.
post #574 of 1188
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Originally Posted by pacofortacos View Post

Okay, I have a 65736 and spare 65737, my question IS
Since they are doing away with DLP's (and I love the pic over other formats), IS the picture on a 73742 superior to the tv's I have or not so much??
I find it hard to believe it would be much of a difference but I've never seen a 73742.
Please help smile.gif If you say there isn't that much of a difference then you will save me some $$ to which my wife will be "very" grateful!

Today's your lucky day. biggrin.gif

I actually used to have that exact TV the WD-65736. Last year I bought last years WD-73640, which is 2 years newer than the WD-65736. The 2 years that I had the WD-65736, I would have rated the picture on it about a 10 outta 10. But then I got the WD-73640, and WOW was I blown away by how much better the PQ is on that set over my older set. I had to drop the rating on my WD-65736 down to a 7.5 outta 10 after seeing my new set in action. My new set I would rate a 10 outta 10 now. biggrin.gif I moved the WD-65736 into my bedroom and anytime I went to go watch it, I was like "to hell with this, my new TV looks so much better than this 1." So I decided to sell the WD-65736 since I never wanted to watch it ever again. redface.gif I just couldn't stand the PQ anymore on my older WD-65736.

I just ordered the WD-82642 and it will be here tomorrow, so I'm not sure how much better the PQ will be going from last years model, to this years model, but I will know here soon enough. biggrin.gif
post #575 of 1188
Does your 73740 have the matte screen or the reflective screen?

I was really hoping you would have said not much of a difference. The 65737 is sitting in the box, I have an extended warranty on the 65736 so I am using it, BUT I also have 2 spare 65737 complete chassis here. So I figured I was set and done on tv's for quite a few years.

Now I'm not so sure smile.gif
post #576 of 1188
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Originally Posted by pacofortacos View Post

Does your 73740 have the matte screen or the reflective screen?
I was really hoping you would have said not much of a difference. The 65737 is sitting in the box, I have an extended warranty on the 65736 so I am using it, BUT I also have 2 spare 65737 complete chassis here. So I figured I was set and done on tv's for quite a few years.
Now I'm not so sure smile.gif

The 65737 is a 2009 model its picture is inferior to the 2010 series and much inferior to the 2011 and 2012 models. There is no appreciable differernce between 2011 and 2012. I don't know how to grade them but my 2011 92840 has a far better picture and is far brighter than my 2009 82837. Really the 2009 is quite sad in comparison.
post #577 of 1188
Thanks, I really wasn't expecting that since the 65737 and xx640's appear to use the same DMD chip, must be the electronics or screen.

Ok that being said, which would be a better option for the same price the 73640 or 73642.
The 73640 is about 15# heavier, which is quite a bit considering their overall weight - does one model seem to have better screen geometry vs. the other? Other than the weight, the specs appear to be similar.
post #578 of 1188
I know some of you have been asking for calibration settings for these TVs. Here are mine using the Disney WOW blu-ray disk. Remember, these settings may only work on my WD-92842 but you can try them to see if you like them. I would be interested to see if others like these settings.

I used the disk in a completely dark room as they suggest that you do the calibration under the same viewing conditions as your normal viewing environment.

Contrast - 46
Brightness - 32
Color - 55
Tint - 23
Sharpness - 0
Picture Mode - Bright (I would use Natural otherwise but everything always appears a bit yellowish to me under the "Natural" setting)
Video Noise - Off
Color Temp - High (Personal preference as it didn't look as good to me on the "Low" setting)

Let me know if you like these settings on your TVs as well?
post #579 of 1188
Well , I sprang for a 73642 so we will do a comparison to the 65736 that I have now.
It is hard to believe HD will be any better, SD I can see as it isn't the greatest.

Should be here in a couple of weeks smile.gif
post #580 of 1188
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

I thought I read where DLP link washes the image some. I have a pair of the XpandX102 DLP link glasses that I bought a while ago but never used with my Sammy LED DLP set since I never got the 3D adapter. One of the reasons I decided not to use it was because I thought that using the DLP link and DLP Dlink glasses produces a washed out picture. (or a green tint or something. which is probably just dependent on the glasses used.) It seems like the newer 3D glasses have come a long ways from the Xpand X102 glasses I have. I know they used to cost around $100. The only reason I have them was because I bought a bunch of them in bulk and sold them. And the profit covered the one pair I kept.

That's an interesting point because when 3D mode DLP Link is activated, the entire picture takes on a greenish HUE but that's only if you are looking at the screen without the DLP Link glasses on. With the glasses on, everything looks normal.

The green must have something to do with the DLP Link technology but not sure that it is diminishing quality as long as glasses are on...
post #581 of 1188
Well, after reading here and in a couple other threads, and also posting (with zero responses), I finally pushed the last button on Paul's TV site and ordered the 73742. I really started to just get non-3D and thought what the hell, for a couple hundred and I've already got a couple PS3 IR glasses.

Now to get Resident Evil-Retribution in 3D!! smile.gif
post #582 of 1188
I just got a call today from the Shipper (Home Direct) that Pauls TV uses. My 82642 set is scheduled to be delivered Monday morning. Hopefully there are no issues with it.

It's been over 4.5 years since I've had an HD set delivered. What is an acceptable amount to tip the delivery people? I will need to have them move the old DLP set off the stand before they can put the new DLP set on there. So what would be a good amount to tip to make sure this is done?
post #583 of 1188
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

I just got a call today from the Shipper (Home Direct) that Pauls TV uses. My 82642 set is scheduled to be delivered Monday morning. Hopefully there are no issues with it.
It's been over 4.5 years since I've had an HD set delivered. What is an acceptable amount to tip the delivery people? I will need to have them move the old DLP set off the stand before they can put the new DLP set on there. So what would be a good amount to tip to make sure this is done?

pass em a hundo. or a case of beer.
post #584 of 1188
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

I just got a call today from the Shipper (Home Direct) that Pauls TV uses. My 82642 set is scheduled to be delivered Monday morning. Hopefully there are no issues with it.
It's been over 4.5 years since I've had an HD set delivered. What is an acceptable amount to tip the delivery people? I will need to have them move the old DLP set off the stand before they can put the new DLP set on there. So what would be a good amount to tip to make sure this is done?

I have had 4 or 5 tvs delivered within the last 7 years. I never tipped and never felt the person thought I should. Unless they are doing something way beyond what is expected keep your money and take the wife out to dinner. Least you can do since she, most likely, okay-ed the tv.
post #585 of 1188
I think for what you are asking, $10 is reasonable, IF you can afford it.

Technically they are only supposed to take it out iof the box, place it on the floor only, not on a stand, plug it in to confirm it works, get your signature and leave. No box removal.

So what your asking is a bit "above and beyond" and warrants a small tip.

Happy to hear someone is getting a delivery from Home Direct. I am in Iowa and Home Direct has been sitting on my 73742 for 2 weeks now, and they're only 80 miles way..

Called Paul's to see if I could just pick it up myself and, no go. Oh well.

Don't get me wrong, I like Paul's .

But, I will never again purchase from any vendor who uses Home Direct.

Enjoy.
post #586 of 1188
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

I just got a call today from the Shipper (Home Direct) that Pauls TV uses. My 82642 set is scheduled to be delivered Monday morning. Hopefully there are no issues with it.
It's been over 4.5 years since I've had an HD set delivered. What is an acceptable amount to tip the delivery people? I will need to have them move the old DLP set off the stand before they can put the new DLP set on there. So what would be a good amount to tip to make sure this is done?

Hey aaron, I ordered my WD-82642 from Pauls also on the 17th, you asked me to follow up on the delivery and since you're keeping things up to date, I will also. smile.gif

Delivery was scheduled to happen on Friday the 28th which would have been perfect, as that is movie night here, but at 3:30 the local delivery guys gave me a call and said that my TV never showed up. They said that since they don't know where it's at, they're going to go ahead and reschedule my delivery for 1/3/13!!! I promptly said "#@#@! are you out of your mind?" I asked him well what if it shows up in a half hour? You guys will still wait almost a week to deliver it? After all they're only about 5 miles down the road from me. He said that no, that that date of 1/3/13 would only be a worst case scenario. That if it shows up sooner, than they will try and deliver it sooner but they have certain schedules they have to keep. The whole thing sounds totally asinine to me because they're just going to let my TV sit there for who knows how many days, when they're only about 5 miles away from my house. He promised me that he would try and work something out as he knows I badly want my new TV.

So anyways, I hang up with him, and low and behold, about an hour later my phone rings, and it's someone else from the local delivery place, and he tells me my TV just showed up! WOOHOO! smile.gif

I asked and begged him if he could bring it now, and he said everyone's already gone home. He then offered to have it delivered on Monday. Which as much as that sucks, I agreed to that. So thankfully I'll be getting it finally on Monday if all goes well. It really sucks though as I took off from work early on Friday so that I could be there during their "1 to 5" window they had me scheduled for. But it wasn't their fault it showed up late, so the local guys at least have been pretty cool about it all.

So now I have to take off from work early on Monday to be there for their 9 to 1 window. Which seems kinda crazy as I was told I was their only delivery for the whole day. redface.gif
Edited by yadfgp - 12/29/12 at 5:43pm
post #587 of 1188
I thought they wouldn't schedule until they already had it in hand? The online tracking for my set shows it has arrived at the area office. So hopefully I don't run into the same situation. I am taking offs Monday too.

I didn't realize delivery only included placing it on the floor. All my other sets that were delivered in the past were placed on my stand. But I did tip them in the past so maybe that is why. I just won a poker game with my GFs family so I'll have the $90 in winnings I can use toward the tip.
post #588 of 1188
The area office actually called me within a few days of the TV being shipped and gave me a scheduled delivery date. I guess they were just giving me that date based on the TV expecting be there in time to make that final delivery. It did show up on that day but as I said earlier it got there a bit too late for them to be able to deliver it.

I didn't realize that putting it on a stand was not part of the deal. I had thought it was. Thanks for pointing that out to me. biggrin.gif

It's been a brutal almost 2 weeks waiting for this set to show up as I have no TV to watch. frown.gif
post #589 of 1188
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Originally Posted by lujan View Post

I know some of you have been asking for calibration settings for these TVs. Here are mine using the Disney WOW blu-ray disk. Remember, these settings may only work on my WD-92842 but you can try them to see if you like them. I would be interested to see if others like these settings.
I used the disk in a completely dark room as they suggest that you do the calibration under the same viewing conditions as your normal viewing environment.
Contrast - 46
Brightness - 32
Color - 55
Tint - 23
Sharpness - 0
Picture Mode - Bright (I would use Natural otherwise but everything always appears a bit yellowish to me under the "Natural" setting)
Video Noise - Off
Color Temp - High (Personal preference as it didn't look as good to me on the "Low" setting)
Let me know if you like these settings on your TVs as well?

Are these some kind of bat cave settings? Do you have an adequate way to determine contrast settings AVS disk, Spears and Munsil or something like that. Color temp should be low but maybe your set grayscale if off. Cranking the color up like this is strange as well. If it doesn't have any hours on it, it does much matter what you do it will change about every 15-25 hours anyway. When the lamps are new they put out tons of light, that will drop off considerably after 200 hours.
post #590 of 1188
I ordered my 82742 on 12/24. I received the schedule call a day after the set had been picked up in Denver. That was Friday 12/28 and the TV will be delivered on Saturday 1/5. You have to make sure the TV is working and sign saying everything is good before they leave. The packaging stays since you have 30 days to return to Paul's. My TV stand will be empty and they have to take the TV out of the box and plug it in. What better place then on the TV stand. Unless this is far away from your entrance see no reason why this would even be an issue.
post #591 of 1188
My problem is my stand is not empty. So I will need their help to remove the old DLP TV from the stand. Then at some point later I'll hopefully be able pay the neighbors grandson to help me swap out the DLP in the bedroom for the DLP that was taken off the stand. Then I'll need to worry about getting rid of the old DLP in the bedroom. But I don't want to do any of that until I'm positive the Mitsubishi is in good shape. I am looking forward to try out some 3D content.
post #592 of 1188
Now that I've ordered my WD-73742, I would really like to get a spare bulb for it. But when I try to order from Mitsi, it won't allow for that on this new model. Where can I get a top-quality bulb that is exactly what is needed other than from Mitsi?

On delivery, my stand will be empty and since the only plug close enough to plug the set in is very close to that stand, I fully expect the delivery to put it on the stand. Can't see why they would even balk at that.
post #593 of 1188
Dealing with the delivery company is probably the worst part of getting a TV online. I ordered my 92842 on 12/5/12 and called the delivery company on Friday the 7th to ask them when they expected the TV to be in. Josh (delivery company employee) told me that it would be in on the 11th (a Tuesday). I then asked Josh if he could tentatively schedule my delivery for Wednesday, the 12th. He said sure and had me scheduled for the 12th. I then called Josh back on Tuesday, the 11th because I had not heard from them at all. He told me that the TV was in but that they were booked solid on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday and that the soonest delivery could be was Saturday, the 15th. Needless to say I was very angry because apparently he had never tentatively scheduled me for Wednesday, the 12th even after I had called for this earlier because I work from home on Wednesday's so this was the best day for me. I finally called the company on Thursday evening and asked for the manager and spoke with someone else as the manager was busy and another one was out of town. To make a long story a little shorter, after much complaining and calls, the TV was delivered a day earlier than expected (Friday, the 14th). The company is supposed to deliver the TV to the room of your choice (don't think it matters if it's on a stand or not), and turn it on to see if it works. I did the connections in the back since I didn't think they would know what they're doing. I had HDMI handshake problems while they were there so we knew it worked, we just couldn't get a picture (just the blue screen). I kept them there a few minutes trying to get it to work and almost had them take it back but decided to keep it and call Mitsubishi after they left. Glad I didn't have them take it back because I had turned it off while I was waiting for Mitsubishi and as soon as I had them on the line, the TV was working just fine. It must have something to do with the order of which components get turned on first? Hopefully, I will not have to buy another on-line TV for a long time. smile.gif
post #594 of 1188
I just ordered the Mitsubishi WD-73742 from Paul's Tv for $1199.00
You may already know this but Mitsubishi has ceased production on all DLP TV'S.
I purchased knowing this, because I have a large room that does not have bright lighting. I looked at the TV at a local dealer , who could not get to Paul's price point and thought it had an excellent picture.
I believe they will continue to supply necessary parts for any potential repairs needed for the foreseeable future.
After I get it set up and adjusted to my likes, I will write about what I observe.
post #595 of 1188
OK. My 82642 was delivered around 1.5 hours ago. But there was only one person. Which worked out good for me. I just helped him bring the TV in. And he helped me take the old TV off the stand. I gave him a $20 tip. There were two other 82" sets on the truck for delivery too. Along with a bunch of LCD sets. He at least seemed knowledgeable about the sets and their delivery. But he had a busy day and still had more deliveries.

Geometry seems fine. Although I don't seem to be getting 1:1 pixel mapping. But I need to mess with that later. I may have had my Darbee Darblet on when I check which would not produce the right picture on the 1:1 test pattern.

The Xpand BT Emitter works well. I forgot to charge the XPand 105 BT glasses that came with it but I used the Samsung $18 ones I bought. They worked fine with the emitter. They sync right away. But they don't feel comfortable. but for $18 I guess you can't expect much. It's an inexpensive way to get a second pair of glasses. I'll try the Xpand105 glasses later if they finish charging in the next three hours. Otherwise I'll check it out tomorrow afternoon

I need to go to BestBuy to pick up 3D BD player. I thought I would be able to use my PS3 but it must not like my setup since it keeps saying I don't have 3D capable devices. But it works fine from my PCH A400 media player when I used my BD ISOs of my Avengers 3D BD and Coraline 3D BD. And it worked from the ESPN 3D channel as well from my TiVo XL4. All using the same cable path. I do have some new Monoprice cables coming later this week so I'll change out my existing HDMI cables to the TV.

Right now I have this gigantic box inside. He said I need to keep it for thirty days in case there are any issues which requires the set to be returned. I still need to pick out an extended warranty. I think I'm going to go with Costco since it is three years for $99 and takes effect after the manufacturer warranty. I figure I will easily save more than the $55 membership fee just from the lower gas prices they have there
post #596 of 1188
While I am still waiting for my 92742 Mits tv from home direct to arrive, I have a few questions.

First, the delivery. What do I have to check before I sign the papers? See if there is any damage? Turn on the TV and see whether there are any dead pixels? Anything else?

Second, the stand. I haven't found a stand for such a big TV (ideally with low height). I have a 2006 Slam Brands Nea Moda Wide TV Stand (220337) that can take 220lbs and 60", but I am not sure whether it's a good idea to use it. Can I just put the TV (with the built-in stand) on the ground or do I have to get a stand?

Third, 3D glasses. I list a few suggested by others:

RF glasses:
Xpand EX105BT or Xpand X105BT without the emitter.

DLP-LINK 3D Glasses: 3DTV

Affordable IR glasses:
Samsung SSG-4100GB and PS3 glasses

I have the impression that glasses with the RF emitter may be better than those with the IR. Which would provide the best quality for the 92742 model? Do you have other suggestions?

Your help is much appreciated.
post #597 of 1188
A year n how are the DLP tv,s holding up? I am considering the 92" if I can source one. Can't seem to get a definitive feel for colour screen quality. Currently have a Samsung plasma that I am very happy with but 92" is a very interesting option
post #598 of 1188
Well my 73642 shipped so should be here is a week or two. Only one problem, uh, I'm not sure how to get it where I need too LOL I need some snow to melt and move some junk and I guess remove part of a wall (I made it removable just for this type of situation). Snow is the big problem.

I want to set it beside my 65736 and see the difference - if it isn't a big difference then I have to decide whether to keep it as a spare - yeah wife is going to love that one smile.gif
post #599 of 1188
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Originally Posted by pacofortacos View Post

Well my 73642 shipped so should be here is a week or two. Only one problem, uh, I'm not sure how to get it where I need too LOL I need some snow to melt and move some junk and I guess remove part of a wall (I made it removable just for this type of situation). Snow is the big problem.
I want to set it beside my 65736 and see the difference - if it isn't a big difference then I have to decide whether to keep it as a spare - yeah wife is going to love that one smile.gif

You won't be the only one with a spare. smile.gif I bought the 82740 just a year ago and when I heard that Mitsubishi was not going to make them anymore, I bought 92842. I had originally been waiting for prices on the 92" to go down but I guess that won't happen anymore. I have the 82740 stored in a closet. You just can't get the same bang for the buck on a LCD, LED or Plasma TV so I had to make my move now before it was too late.
post #600 of 1188
Hi Folks,
I'm on my 3rd day with my 82842 from Paul's TV via Home Direct and thought I'd share my experience. Order it on the 20th and took delivery on the 28th, not to shabby for an over the holiday order. The HD guys told me I may want to take a look at this TV outside first, the box was pretty beat up and completely opened at the bottom with one strap cutting in to the box top, the other completely off... Oh joy I thought. I prepared myself for major disappointment and we unboxed it outside and to my relief no damage, the TV was in perfect condition, a testament to Mitz boxing not doubt. They were nice enough to move my Samsung 61" LED DLP to the hallway and just plugged the new set in and verified a blue screen, that's all they do. I gave it a last look over no dead pixels or other defects and signed their papers.

I use the TV with Direct TV and a custom built 1080p HTPC. World of Tanks is blast on 82"! I also find I have to use Bright and High color temp, normal temp looks like a brown film I can't imagine any use for that setting. The remotes a bit disappointing, there's no 3D button so manually switching modes is a bit more work then it should be IMHO. Then again, if you have a HDMI 1.4a device it's automatic and Direct TV's gear works fine in that aspect. Playing 3D movies on the PC however I have to manually set SBS. I've heard Nvidia's 3D Player software will send the signal but then I'd have to give up Zoom player for Cyberlink's PowerDVD which is not my preference so manual switching it is. There is a quick tools menu with 3D button shortcut mapped to the 7 key but pressing it doesn't respond with 3D mode cycling, the screen just goes black as if it is switching and then remains unchanged. It's also very slow and doesn't respond like you'd think... very strange. So far that's my only issue, everything else with this set is amazing, especially the price for this size screen. I almost went with the 92", but I'm single and just moving this beast around is a chore at 135lbs. They used soft feet and therefore it doesn't slide very easy, but then it's not going to move short of an earthquake once you get it where you want.

I did have to dip into the service menu and adjust HPOS for the PC, the screen was about 6 pixels to the left to much, btw thanks for making the SM available. Oh, I also picked up the Samsung 3d glasses to give them a try, I guess if you wear glasses these would be a good selection. I personally don't find them comfortable and they're so open they allow light from the side so if you have any light behind you you'll get reflections. I've got the XPands 105BT on order and hope they'll be more to my liking. I also did some shopping for a replacement bulb and it looks like everyone's out of stock with housing at the moment. That's my experience to date anyway.

Mike
Edited by Mmcguire - 12/31/12 at 6:04pm
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