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post #871 of 1188
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Originally Posted by Dawson14 View Post

Apparently my 60 is the exact same way I just didn't notice it since it was smaller.

Tech is at my house right now to do some adjustments and he doesn't know jack. His head is buried in the service manual. And he has accidentally kicked himself out of the geometry menu at least 10 times and bad to redo his adjustments. FML

Good luck. The tech that looked at mine said that because the curvature was not consistent (i.e. it is straight in the middle and then hooked at the top and bottom) it could not be handled with adjustments. Hopefully he was wrong.
post #872 of 1188
So I called today to get a warranty replacement lamp and because mine only lasted 2 months, I was concerned and asked the girl if this was out of the ordinary and to my surprise she said no. I couldn't believe that so I pressed her a little asking what the csot of the lamp was ($99) and then saying, so I could expect to possibly spend $600 per year on lamps? No matter how I phrased it I could not get her to say that it was not normal. I guess they have a script and want to avoid the possiblity on more expensive repairs.
post #873 of 1188
I purchased my 92842 in Jan this year and the bulb went out 2 weeks in. I called mits and got the same jargon you received. They sent me a new lamp. So far so good.
post #874 of 1188
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Originally Posted by Pat6366 View Post



Good luck. The tech that looked at mine said that because the curvature was not consistent (i.e. it is straight in the middle and then hooked at the top and bottom) it could not be handled with adjustments. Hopefully he was wrong.

Yup we could not fix it. We got the outside lines PERFECT but the 4:3 lines are a no go. The horizontal lines are perfect as well. But again the outside 4:3 vertical lines will not straighten. It is pissing me off pretty bad. I don't notice anything wrong when I'm watching TV. But in movie menus, DVR, games it is very noticeable. Does anyone not have this curvature issue? If I hear a yes, I'll file an RMA and hope for something better.
post #875 of 1188
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Originally Posted by Dawson14 View Post

Yup we could not fix it. We got the outside lines PERFECT but the 4:3 lines are a no go. The horizontal lines are perfect as well. But again the outside 4:3 vertical lines will not straighten. It is pissing me off pretty bad. I don't notice anything wrong when I'm watching TV. But in movie menus, DVR, games it is very noticeable. Does anyone not have this curvature issue? If I hear a yes, I'll file an RMA and hope for something better.

This has always been the case for every DLP I've owned since my first in 2004 (I've owned 5 of them). It does not bother be anymore because I don't watch 4X3 TV hardly anymore.
post #876 of 1188
Thanks. I have the same problems with the vertical 4:3 lines not adjusting the same.
post #877 of 1188
I didn't have a problem adjusting the 4:3 lines on my set. They were off when I first got it, but seem to be straight now. When watching 4:3 content they seem fine(I've been watching the SIx Million Dollar Man the last few weeks from COZI TV)
Actually all my vertical lines seem to be fine. It's a few of the horizontal ones that I had more difficulty with doing it by eye. Either way once i get a straight edge overlay setup properly on the screen I will redo the horizontal and vertical.

They used to sell the grid pattern overlays to do the geometry alignment. I used to have one for my Toshiba HD RP CRT set in the early 2000's. This was what my calibrator had used so I had purchased one for myself. But that was only for a 57 inch screen. I wonder if they make them for an 82" screen? That would make things much easier. I had completely forgotten about that overlay until now. Although I don't remember the calibrator using it on my DLP sets. Worst case I'll just need to get a piece of string and tape it to each side to get a straight edge. It will take a long time that way but it should be doable.
post #878 of 1188
The problem is that the vertical lines are all preset and all of them are terrible. There's nothing I can do.
post #879 of 1188
Hello,

I just got the WD73642 model. Please tell me what equipment I need to buy and approximately how much it would cost to use the 3D feature.


Do people here tend to use it here a lot? I am just wondering. Thanks!
post #880 of 1188
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Originally Posted by MitchFlorida View Post

Hello,

I just got the WD73642 model. Please tell me what equipment I need to buy and approximately how much it would cost to use the 3D feature.


Do people here tend to use it here a lot? I am just wondering. Thanks!

I use 3D on my 82642 alot. Well what I would consider alot. I've been watching several 3D BD movies on it each week.

I purchased the Xpand EX105BT kit which includes a Bluetooth emitter and one pair of glasses.

http://www.amazon.com/Xpand-EX105BT-Bluetooth-Mitsubishi-Televisions/dp/B009ZW7SR2/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362601501&sr=1-2&keywords=x105bt

I got an extra pair of the Xpand 105BT glasses recently for $30. They were twice that a couple of months ago.

http://www.amazon.com/Xpand-X105BT-Mitsubishi-Bluetooth-Televisions/dp/B00A279MD2/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362601821&sr=1-1&keywords=x105bt

I also got a a pair of the Samsung BT glasses for around $20 when I got the Xpand BT emitter.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007K9P7H0/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

But while they are lighter I don't like them very much because they let more light in from the side and they feel more uncomfortable to me when wearing them for a couple of hours than the Xpand ones.

The Xpand glasses have a non-removable chargeable battery. Suppsoedly good for 100 hours between charges. The Samsung has replaceable battery which is non-chargeable.

Also the Xpand glasses will resync automatically if you start up another 3D title within a minute. While the Samsung ones need to have a button pressed each time the 3D starts. The Xpand ones do as well after that minute.
post #881 of 1188
Wow, thanks a lot. You saved me 6 hours of research on this. I will probably hold off for now, but it sounds easy enough to add later. Do you think 3D will even be around 5 years from now? Everyone is talking about 4 K , not 3D.
post #882 of 1188
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Originally Posted by MitchFlorida View Post

Wow, thanks a lot. You saved me 6 hours of research on this. I will probably hold off for now, but it sounds easy enough to add later. Do you think 3D will even be around 5 years from now? Everyone is talking about 4 K , not 3D.

No idea. With DLP it's been out for five years or so now. My 2008 DLP set is 3D ready., although I never used it. It does seem like more and more sets are coming with 3D. And the prices are getting lower and lower.I don't see how 4K can catch on anytime soon with the prices being in the stratosphere. I'm still amazed at all the receivers and BD players coming out this year with 4K upscaling, yet almost no one has a 4K display. Of course they are out there, but if you compare it to 3D (which is still a small percentage of the total HD sets), 3D would be main stream compared to 4K displays.
post #883 of 1188
ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox News, ESPN, HBO etc will never convert to 3D, will they? I have only seen one 3D movie at the theater, and it made little impression on me.
post #884 of 1188
Does anyone know the Mits part# for the replacement lamp for 82742?

If you go to the Mits Parts website and enter WD-82742, it only lists the remote control.

FYI, my lamp is working fine but I would like to have a spare on hand.
post #885 of 1188
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

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Also the Xpand glasses will resync automatically if you start up another 3D title within a minute. While the Samsung ones need to have a button pressed each time the 3D starts. The Xpand ones do as well after that minute.

I actually like the Samsung better than the Xpand X103's because with the Xpand, every time I turn away for more than a second or two they will turn dark as if they're turning off since it's not receiving a 3D signal. With the Samsungs I can turn away to grab a drink or some food while still watching TV and they never loose sync. Also, they're only $20.00 and they feel just comfortable to me because they're so light.
post #886 of 1188
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Originally Posted by snooktarpon View Post

Does anyone know the Mits part# for the replacement lamp for 82742?

If you go to the Mits Parts website and enter WD-82742, it only lists the remote control.

FYI, my lamp is working fine but I would like to have a spare on hand.

It probably takes the same lamp as the 82740 but I'm not certain. Why don't you call Mitsubishi to make sure?
post #887 of 1188
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Originally Posted by MitchFlorida View Post

ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox News, ESPN, HBO etc will never convert to 3D, will they? I have only seen one 3D movie at the theater, and it made little impression on me.


ESPN has a dedicated 24-hour 3D channel that's shown on DirecTV and other cable companies. Among the live broadcasts were weekly select college football games, Sugar Bowl, Alabama/Notre Dame college football championship game (fantastic 3D coverage), college basketball tournaments, X-Games, Little League Baseball World Series, major golf tounaments, and others.
post #888 of 1188
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Originally Posted by snooktarpon View Post

Does anyone know the Mits part# for the replacement lamp for 82742?

If you go to the Mits Parts website and enter WD-82742, it only lists the remote control.

FYI, my lamp is working fine but I would like to have a spare on hand.

You'll have to call them to order it anyway, so you'll have the part number when the new one comes in.

BTW, the part number is in the owner's manual.
post #889 of 1188
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Originally Posted by MitchFlorida View Post

Hello,

I just got the WD73642 model. Please tell me what equipment I need to buy and approximately how much it would cost to use the 3D feature.


Do people here tend to use it here a lot? I am just wondering. Thanks!

I use Sony PS3 3D glasses. They are IR and cost about $20 a pair. I've been happy with them the few times I actually used them.

When/if you get some glasses, try them with real 3D sources and then try a some some movies or shows with the 2D to 3D conversion the TV can do. While it isn't as good as the real thing, on some movies and scenes it can be a big improvement. Basically adds some depth to the picture.

Note that with all 3D glasses there is some darkening while viewing.

As to where 3D is going, well it is hard to say. ESPN3D is still around though it doesn't get the viewership they'd like from what I hear. N3D was another channel, but they folded. DirecTV has 2 channels left I think, plus some few movies are available PPV in 3D.

Dish network has some 3D PPV movies too. And there is VUDU streaming 3D movies.

In all cases the number of streaming/ppv movies is a very short list.
post #890 of 1188
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Originally Posted by lujan View Post

I actually like the Samsung better than the Xpand X103's because with the Xpand, every time I turn away for more than a second or two they will turn dark as if they're turning off since it's not receiving a 3D signal. With the Samsungs I can turn away to grab a drink or some food while still watching TV and they never loose sync. Also, they're only $20.00 and they feel just comfortable to me because they're so light.

I use the Xpand 105 glasses which are RF. No issue with turning away. I can go into another room and back in to the room with the TV and the glasses still don't lose sync. The Samsung glasses I use are RF as well, not IR.
post #891 of 1188
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Originally Posted by Pat6366 View Post

So I called today to get a warranty replacement lamp and because mine only lasted 2 months, I was concerned and asked the girl if this was out of the ordinary and to my surprise she said no. I couldn't believe that so I pressed her a little asking what the csot of the lamp was ($99) and then saying, so I could expect to possibly spend $600 per year on lamps? No matter how I phrased it I could not get her to say that it was not normal. I guess they have a script and want to avoid the possiblity on more expensive repairs.

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-Replacement-Bare-Mitsubishi-915B455012/dp/B00B4VOIT8/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362617888&sr=1-5&keywords=915b455012+lamp

They are sold with a 1 year warranty.

The life of the lamp can vary, based on the lamp itself, the air temperature around the TV while it is operating, the selected lamp mode, and your viewing patterns. Warmer air or poor ventilation shorten the lamp life, as does setting Lamp Energy to Bright and turning the television on and off frequently.
Edited by MitchFlorida - 3/6/13 at 5:00pm
post #892 of 1188
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Originally Posted by MitchFlorida View Post

From what I can tell, the genuine Mitsubishi replacement lamps can be bought on amazon for $52, that isn't too bad.

Don't think any lamp is going to be OEM for $52.00. Most don't give any technical details, all they state is"OEM equivalent" which to me means not OEM.
post #893 of 1188
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Originally Posted by MitchFlorida View Post

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-Replacement-Bare-Mitsubishi-915B455012/dp/B00B4VOIT8/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362617888&sr=1-5&keywords=915b455012+lamp

They are sold with a 1 year warranty.

The life of the lamp can vary, based on the lamp itself, the air temperature around the TV while it is operating, the selected lamp mode, and your viewing patterns. Warmer air or poor ventilation shorten the lamp life, as does setting Lamp Energy to Bright and turning the television on and off frequently.
I think you missed my point.
post #894 of 1188
I just purchased a refurbished WD-73642 model. Based on people's experience with Mitsubishi, do you think it would be a smart idea to also buy the 2 year Extended Warranty for $165? How reliable are the DLPs? It works well now, would you go for the warranty? The lamp isn't cvered by SquareTrade by the way, but everything else is.
Edited by MitchFlorida - 3/7/13 at 2:38am
post #895 of 1188
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Originally Posted by colour View Post

Don't think any lamp is going to be OEM for $52.00. Most don't give any technical details, all they state is"OEM equivalent" which to me means not OEM.


I looked into it a little bit more and I think Phillips is the company that manufactures the lamps for Mitsubishi. They are $80 on Amazon with a one year warranty.
post #896 of 1188
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Originally Posted by MitchFlorida View Post

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-Replacement-Bare-Mitsubishi-915B455012/dp/B00B4VOIT8/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1362617888&sr=1-5&keywords=915b455012+lamp

They are sold with a 1 year warranty.

The life of the lamp can vary, based on the lamp itself, the air temperature around the TV while it is operating, the selected lamp mode, and your viewing patterns. Warmer air or poor ventilation shorten the lamp life, as does setting Lamp Energy to Bright and turning the television on and off frequently.

I'm not sure why someone would buy this lamp (no housing) for almost $80.00 when you can get the lamp with housing for just $20.00 more at the Mitsubishi site?
post #897 of 1188
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Originally Posted by MitchFlorida View Post

I just purchased a refurbished WD-73642 model. Based on people's experience with Mitsubishi, do you think it would be a smart idea to also buy the 2 year Extended Warranty for $165? How reliable are the DLPs? It works well now, would you go for the warranty? The lamp isn't cvered by SquareTrade by the way, but everything else is.

I got a five year extended warranty(by MACK) for my 82642 for $150.
post #898 of 1188
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

I got a five year extended warranty(by MACK) for my 82642 for $150.

Pretty good deal. I got mine from Paul's TV (same place as I bought the TV) for $350 on the 92842. It's more up front but they give you half back in store credit if you don't use the warranty. I'm hoping I don't need to use it and then it will only cost $175.00 for 5 years.
post #899 of 1188
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Originally Posted by snooktarpon View Post

I'm definitely not getting 1:1 pixel mapping out of the box. I have a DVDO Edge and when I output a checkerboard test pattern, I get a strange pattern.


Is anybody else getting 1:1 pixel mapping?

I'm getting the same thing on mine using the Disney WOW disk using there scailing test which is a 1x1 pixel checkerboard pattern. I tried adjusting the set in the service menu and lined it up better and its still like this. Picture looks good though otherwise but wondering whats causing this to happen during the test and if its something to be concerned about?

I just got my 82842 set last Thursday.


EDIT:

Just wanted to add that my 6 year old 61" Samsung DLP shows this pattern perfectly and also for my 3 year old 42" Pany Plasma and same for my 32" LCD in the bed room.

Edited by darkeclypse - 3/7/13 at 10:16am
post #900 of 1188
Also what is picture settings that most are using on this set? I'm talking about the Natural,Bright,brillant settings and light high or low?

I've been struggling since I got it to adjust this set to look as good as I can get it to where it looks great and also natural.. I cant really stand looking at the set unless its set to bright but then the colors seem way over saturated.

Also I tested a 3D movie out for the first time a few days ago and at first it was great.. watched the Titantic. Just skimmed through it real quick to demo the 3D for the wife before she went to bed. 3D looked great for normal/slow moving scenes but once there was some fast moving stuff going on it looked bad. I don't know what you would call it, if it was ghosting or laggy/double image but it really hurt the eyes trying to focus on it. I have 2 sets of the Xpand 3D Lite RF X105-M1 BT Active Shutter glasses.
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