I don't think we need to make things personal. Let us all be friendly here.
Too busy flogging my women and slaves.
Why don't you just research it and find the thousands of ABX tests that were mentioned? Arny provided you with a link to a paper that confirms it and I provided a link to a web page where there were about 50 tests conducted all with the same result. There isn't some sort of worldwide conspiracy going on here - the truth is that when ABX tests are done, the result is invariably the same - people canot hear any differences between the amps under test. You have had a quoted comment from Richard Clarke himself who has been involved in ABX tests for years and he confirms the conclusion that the others have also confirmed.
I suspect you keep asking to see literally thousands of ABX test results before you will be satisfied because you know nobody is going to post such a list and that enables you to duck out of answering a single question asked of you. And I suspect you want to duck out of answering because you actually have no answers.
LOL! Those are terrific - and so apt. As you read the descriptions a lot of names immediately come to mind - especially so of the filibuster one where reams of cut and paste are used as a weapon of attrition. Thanks for posting the links.
I just spent more time than I have ATM reading a good selection from the list. They are very accurate observations!
OK - suppose I say that there are hundreds of tests? Will that satisfy you? How about 50? I have already linked you to a site which has results for about 50 tests. The real point is that whether there are 50 tests, 100 tests, 1000 tests or more - the results are invariably the same: people cannot reliably tell the difference between unit A and unit B. This is likely to be the case no matter how many tests are conducted, in the same way that we can test a coin toss 100 times, 1000 times or 1,000,000 times and the answer will always be the same: roughly 50 heads and 50 tails.
I suspect no answer I give will be acceptable to you, because if it is, then you will, by your own admission, have to start providing the answers to the numerous questions asked of you. In order to avoid answering you fall back on this lame argument that we are lying to you. Why? Because you don't actually have any answers, are not prepared to come into this with an open mind, blindly ignore all factual arguments put to you and prefer to repeat yourself ad infinitum. Anything to avoid having to provide evidence to defend your own position. You cited ONE test that allegedly supported your position yet you demand from me that I provide thousands of such tests. Well, I have provided 50 to your 1, so how about some of the answers now?
That would be fine except for the fact that he has said he WILL answer questions posed to him but only when a list of 1000+ ABX tests is provided, which he knows isn’t going to happen, so it makes a nice shield to hide behind.
As for rationality and good evidence, he has had plenty of both provided to him, which he ignores or rebuts, but never giving any good reasons for doing either.
Demanding certain standards from others while feeling free to not apply them to onself - hmm, there's a word for that and it has been used recently. I won't repeat it because I try not to use personal arguments or attacks.
It's not speculation - it is extrapolation. Go back to the coin toss - sample of one person (me), I toss the coin 50 times. Result is 47/53 heads to tails. I can do that a million times and it won't affect the result because there are only two outcomes and statistically it is as likely to be heads as it is tails. In an ABX test, there are only two outcomes too - 1 that the testee can hear a difference and 2 that the testee cannot hear a difference. Given that in all the ABX tests I have read about the result is very close to 50-50, what does that tell you? Suppose you do just one test with 5 people involved and you get that result. You then repeat the test another 10 times, with any number of people you like and you STILL get that result - what does that tell you? After 50 such tests, you are still getting the same result - see a trend here? Why would you expect the next 50 tests to produce a different result? What would you do - keep going for 1,000 tests or 100,000 tests until you get the answer you want - that 80% could hear a difference and on;y 20% couldn't? And if you do that, you have 1 anomalous result out of thousands, so what does that tell you?
You can argue this for ever (seems like you will) but the fact is that in all the ABX tests conducted, there is never a case where one unit is clearly discerned as different from the other unit in any statistically meaningful way. What does that tell you? Does it a) tell you that there is no discernible difference between the amps or b) that the tests must all be wrong?