The Dark Knight Rises - Page 12

A little is cut at 1.78:1 is not IMAX ratio

Spoilers, obviously.

The only scene where the mix disappointed me was the Batman/Bane sewer fight. I know the score was dialed down intentionally, but I wanted the blows exchanged to carry more weight. It didn't feel as powerful as it looked, if that makes sense.
Edited by HD-Master - 12/9/12 at 6:39pm

I hope you knew what I meant. Nothing is lost on the sides.

OMFG!!! That has got to be one of the best overdub videos I've heard seen. I had tears going down my face from the MK song on out.

C-C-Combo breakah!!!

Worst thing about that is the appalling choreography, hits that land a foot from each person

At least there are hits in that fight. Now look at the fight between Batman and Bane's men:



This guy at 02:08:05 falls down without a reason. That's embarrassing.

That's what happens when you don't have a 2nd unit, Nolan does it all himself and he can't shoot fights worth a damn

The transition from 2.40 to 1.81:1 is so seamless that you dont even notice the switch. Its best NOT to use any screen magnification mode because I tested my BD-6500 Samsung blu ray player's "mode 1" picture increase that I use on 2.40's, and the IMAX switch made the picture too big. Its best to accept the 2.40 (seems a 50/50 split) for half the movie, and fullscreen the rest.

The flying scenes with Batman in the stelth jet craft were the most awesome. He swoops in with the craft ti block a missile, and flies through some buildings to dodge a missile lock-on.
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[/quote] At least there are hits in that fight. Now look at the fight between Batman and Bane's men:

This guy at 02:08:05 falls down without a reason. That's embarrassing.[/quote]

Maybe a few of these would've made this fight scene better


Edited by SCHNEEDOO - 12/12/12 at 3:30pm

"Excessive or blatant abuse of compressors, limiters, and clipping is a cop-out and is straight up lazy mixing.

It requires no talent or skill to produce a loud mix but only the best mixers utilize finesse not brute distorted force to create a dynamic and rich aural experience.

LOud-FIdelity sensibilities should never have taken hold in music let alone in movies; it abusively defeats the whole point of 120db of dynamic range let alone high quality recording, mixing, and playback chains. There are multitudes of examples of proper mixing that completely disproves any possible 'stylistic' rational to justify crushing dynamics to create pseudo impact.
Unfortunately this particular trend is becoming more common; too many Indie films abuse this trick as well to seem higher fidelity than they could be.

TDK is quite dynamic and enjoyable but from my experience of TDKR in IMAX it was a bloated, flat, fatiguing, and boring experience. Absolutely not impactful nor enjoyable.
Perhaps when I get to watch the BR on my system I'll feel differently but from the comments of others it may not be the case.

I sometimes check out the Audio Tier thread and some of the 'Reference' titles make no sense to me unless the criteria is simply loud throbbing bass at the cost of dynamics, then it makes sense. Rather sheer output is often misconstrued as being dynamic and impactful."

I concur wholeheartedly. Many film mixes are some of the most atrocious stuff I have ever heard coming from an audiophile. The bass is fat and nasty and loud; it makes everything seem too ridiculous.

Theres a scene where Bale is trying to clinb out of the prison, and he gets on a ledge? The stone wall in the background is obviously CG .

There is so much obvious CGI, A byproduct of imax resolution?

It's like Doug Trumbull said in one of Harry Knowles' interviews with him from earlier this year: motion blur costs extra.
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It's not that, its the dust clouds on the stadium and the other explosions, they look sub game quality

Some shots of The Bat aren't entirely convincing either, IMO.
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Having said that, it's possible that it sticks out to me more, because of the alleged 'reality' its meant to be be inhabiting, as opposed to say The Avengers, which has obvious CG falling out of its ass, but I don't really care, as it's pure unadulterated fantasy.

No it looked like that is non-Imax also. Spending more of better effects costs money that doesn't change the story telling.

Isn't the Bat a practical effect? As I understand it, they had it suspended from a helicopter.

Only for a few shots, the rest were cgi and the thing looked weightless

Well, it was a very fancy kinda-inverted helicopter designed for flying in constricted urban areas, I didn't expect it to thunder along like a Chinook

The CG stuff in the stadium looks hokey but not in a bad way, though it probably would've been better served by using a miniature. The only other shots that really scream CG to me are those of the batpod doing that awesome wheel turning thing, but even then that's not because the CG is poor but because they couldn't do something like that practically (apart from some very slow revolutions in a close-up when Bats turns the pod around).

That is based in reality but has no basis in reality? Gotcha

Batman isn't REAL!?!

The tumbler convinced me that it would work, the Bat just spits in the face of physics and thermodynamics

What does it have to do with thermodynamics? Maybe you meant aerodynamics?

Of course, the only way to know for sure would be to build one, even as just a model proof of concept. Surely someone out there has the time.

He's clearly an urban legend Gotham's criminals use as an excuse. Now Superman, he's the real one.

There is a featurette on the history of the Batmobile from its very early beginnings on the BD Special Features disk with this release.
I just got done watching and it is excellent.
And yes, the Tumbler does "work."

I'll believe it when I can look up in the sky and point to Krypton.

http://www.pdfdownloadlibrary.com/topics/pdf-propeller-thermodynamics/page/3/


T Hat Batmobile doc was the only reason I bought this release

Same here, that doc is sweet. I have a soft spot for the Batman Forever car and it looked amazing here.