Type of Screen and distance

I just finished my Sintra screen this weekend (RS-MaxxMudd LL). I paid $119 for the 5x10 6mm board and unless you feel like mounting the 3mm to an actual frame and/or hard piece of another substrate I would def recommend the 6mm. If you are going to mount directly to the wall (which it looks like you will) remember to see how flat the wall is, you might be able to get away with the 3mm, I couldn't due to waves in my wood paneling behind the board. If you are going to do a 122" screen (which is the largest you can go 16:9 with a 5x10' piece) remember to leave more than 107" so you can screw into the Sintra and not have to lose any of the real estate.

Even the 6mm has play and for mounting to my wall (which was not the flattest thing out there) it helped keep a good form without the need of mounting to another frame/substrate.

Another thing I would recommend is calling all of the Sign shops in your area and checking the price they can get it for. Remember to ask for another brand such as Komotex or any other Expanded PVC board to see if they have a lower price.

Yeah...and ask Laird the same question. The price you received is Retail...way out of line IMO

3mm is something that is fraught with added concerns and considerations. It's too thin to accept any adhesive except the thinnest, most evenly spread variety, and it cannot be hung around the edges only without the center bowing out. And as mentioned above, you have to adhere the 6mm to the wall with adhesive if you want the maximum screen size possible from a 10' x 5'er. If just the ends are screwed in place, it's still possible to get a slight bow at center. Adding some daubs of adhesive takes care of that..

I always suggest instead that a "ledge-board" be mounted on the wall, and the Sintra be placed up using "ONLY" adhesive. In that manner, and when the adhesive is dry, you just remove the "ledge" and apply your trim over the existing screw holes.

( I usually use a piece if MDF Trim I have bought for the Wrapped Trim as my ledge. Any screw holes are covered by the Velvet anyway...)

You can simply "Butt" the Trim edges against the side edges of the Sintra. If you leave 2" extra material at each end for screwing to the wall, the Trim must overlap that area and that will result in the end pieces of trim sitting 6mm higher than the long horizontal Trim pieces.

Now that can be corrected by using small cut pieces of the trimmed Sintra to shim out the edge areas around the Screen, so that all the Trim is sitting evenly on all sides. Be sure to use such around all sides of each corner as the Corners must both meet and be flat and even for a great looking, virtually invisible union..

Granted, screwing up each end does make being sure the Sintra stays up against the wall, but as stated, a little adhesive placed in the center of the screen wall goes a long way to effect a certain "Flat lay".


BTW...where is your "area"? Rarely, some locations do have substantially higher pricing...but even with that....from what you mentioned it seems like someone at that Laird branch is sending their Kids to College on your budget.....

Sounds like a great luck in! If you can find it cheaper with FASTSIGNS then I think youve hit a DIY screen lottery. Seems like the going rate is around $90 for the 6mm if bought as non retail price. The next thing will be figuring out the paint mixture to use and grabbing a No Name paint sprayer here http://www.ebay.com/itm/GRACO-HV2900-39-CFM-450W-HVLP-House-Paint-Spray-Station-Machine-System-Painter-/230791007590?pt=Paint_Paint_Supplies&hash=item35bc374d66#ht_4670wt_1156 while you can.

Depending on your room treatment, ambient light and projector I'm sure MM will have a great recommendation for you as far as Silver Fire or RS-MuddMaxx is concerned, so spill the details

I suggest the sprayer only because RS-MaxxMudd LL is the only DIY paint that can be rolled and it is always recommended to spray that application as well.

Williamn,

Rs-MaxxMudd LL

Be sure the board you choose has at least 1 blemish free side, no scratches, no dents, no smears or stains.

As stated above, inspect before you have them cut it so you aren't stuck with a piece that isn't fit for the application.

LL is the version I used over the weekend, you will not be disappointed! One of my buddies has been helping me along the way from the start and has seen the room go from the Epson 8100 on BOC to the Spandex Screen of all 4 variations I had and then the unpainted Sintra board. When he saw the screen an hour after the last coat (not even cured mind you!) he was speechless... As was I


Rust-Oleum paint can be found here
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003EELN1Y/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

I found everything else at Home Depot and Michael's (for the Liquitex Basics Silver, if you dont have a michaels close then you can find it on amazon as well)

This is a must as well. It goes in and out of stock very often so purchase while you can. http://www.amazon.com/Homax-69011-1-Gallon-PolyPro-Galvanized/dp/B000ELORFE/ref=pd_sim_hi_2

The reason I use amazon for most things is because I have prime so I get everything within one to two days. If for some reason you can not find the squirrel cage paint mixer (very essential so find it if you can!) let me know and I can point you in the direction of a separate one I had to use for the last batch.
Edited by memphisanid - 8/20/12 at 1:55pm

Micheal's Arts and Crafts has a 45% off Coupon that covers the needed Liquitex Basic Paint (Silver Metallic)

Check their website to print it out. Hurry though...it's good only until the 25th of this month.

As for me...I'm denuding the local supply in Memphis!

That is not the latest mixture

RS-MaxxMudd LL v.2.1

20 oz. Rustoleum Metallic Accents - White Pearl
10 oz. Liquitex Basics Silver
12 oz. Behr 1850 Ultra Pure White - Flat

12 oz. Minwax Polycrylic - Satin finish
20 oz. distilled/tap water**

The only thing you can get at Michael's is the Liquitex

All others, other than the link I posted above for the Rostoleum, can be found at Home Depot. If you dont have a Home Depot then we have to figure out what you have around you to get the White Flat Enamel paint.

More than enough, I did 7 coats total with the above amounts mixed together and still have roughly 1/3 or the mixture sitting in a can waiting just in case some of my buddies get a little rowdy during a football game. They might not walk out of my house but I can at least make the screen right

My screen is 122" and I went way to thick on the first coat so you will probably use less than what I did if you start out spraying correctly

I would try and find the 1850 UPW at Home Depot as that is the known item to use. Shermin Williams and Lowes paints have been referenced in the RS-MaxxMudd official post but why change something you know works if you have availability to it

Minwax is actually cheaper at Home Depot by $2 (I know thats not much but if you have to go there anyway to look for the Behr, might as well pick it up cheaper)

You will have to buy the Rustoleum on Amazon though

You got it, just remember to look for the old 1850 Flat Enamel in QT size that does not have the primer included if you can. It will stick out since it will not be in the newer label and look like the one you linked. The newer label is not as flashey.

That was exactly my thinking on it too with the Sprayer, I had ceiling tiles and 3 rooms to spray so it more than paid for itself!

Do not forget the squirlle cage mixer from amazon I linked to above, it is necessary to mix the paint up well enough

It shouldn't be a problem at all as long as one side is smooth and white.

Same stuff. Different name/mfg.

If 16:9 you'd want 2"...so leave the material at it's 60" height, and cut the length to 104"


It's just not a good idea with that Pioneer's low lumen output. To maintain a decent size 16:9 you'd want to have it (2.35:1 screen) be at least 48' high (113" wide) , and at 2.35:1, and even at that size you'd only be getting 9 fls at a mid-throw distance (17') which of course is impossible for you anyway . Closest possible throw? 13' = 12 fls Barely acceptable.

Lets speculate that you want to make a screen for the future. At 120" wide and 51" high (130" diagonal) you'll only be getting 10 fls with a 13' 9" throw (lens to screen) That fl level is also barely acceptable using the Pioneer, but as stated....the Future awaits, and your Screen would be sized to satisfy any PJ induced upgrade-itus.

......and yeah...mount the Panel, mask the surrounding areas, paint...the Trim using 3.25" MDF base wrapped in velvet.

16:9 110" would be best, and at the throw distance at 11' 3" for 19 fls

RS-MM LL is approx 1.3 gain

Your gonna be very pleased with your end results if you embrace those parameters.

Dependent upon the quality of the lens, edge distortion (Barreling) is the most common issue, followed by a softer Focus at the edges.

Usually, if one saves approx. 10% of the "Max" Throw distance in reserve, with today's PJs with improved optics, that's not gonna be an issue.

Let me rephrase that correctly. Stay outside 10% of The "minimum throw"