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post #1 of 16
8/20/12 at 10:43am
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I'm looking for a smaller 2 channel integrated amp that is around 14" in width and less than 9" deep.
Also, I need at least two analog inputs and at one optical.
No tuner or USB.
Price under $250.

It's going to replace a older JVC int. amp that has those dimensions. I Depth is the most important, second is width. I would rather not go into a full width (17") unit due to space. I ruled out those under $100 'cubes' that have become very popular since I don't believe any have optical inputs and the quality is questionable according to the many reviews I have read.

Is there anything out there, as I have not been able to find anything?
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post #2 of 16
8/20/12 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by videobruce View Post

I'm looking for a smaller 2 channel integrated amp that is around 14" in width and less than 9" deep.
Also, I need at least two analog inputs and at one optical.
No tuner or USB.
Price under $250.
It's going to replace a older JVC int. amp that has those dimensions. I Depth is the most important, second is width. I would rather not go into a full width (17") unit due to space. I ruled out those under $100 'cubes' that have become very popular since I don't believe any have optical inputs and the quality is questionable according to the many reviews I have read.
Is there anything out there, as I have not been able to find anything?

Not a lot showed up in my searching.

It's a lot more function that you want, but it includes most if not all of what you want.

Denon RCD-N7

http://usa.denon.com/us/Product/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?CatId=StreamingMedia(DenonNA)&PId=RCDN7(DenonNA)



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post #3 of 16
8/21/12 at 4:27am
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Thanks, but it is also a lot more price than I want. frown.gif
I was being very generous with the $250 I stated. Something as that, $150 should be a obtainable price point.

If push comes to shove, I could live with a standard 17" width unit, but the depth (or lack of) is the most important factor. BTW. height around 3".
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post #4 of 16
8/21/12 at 4:51am
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Thanks, but it is also a lot more price than I want. frown.gif
I was being very generous with the $250 I stated. Something as that, $150 should be a obtainable price point.
If push comes to shove, I could live with a standard 17" width unit, but the depth (or lack of) is the most important factor. BTW. height around 3".

I wish you all of the luck in the world. The smallest standard AVR that came up was 12 inches deep and 6 inches high.

I think that in 5 years the mainstream might go this way, because receivers are turning into Big Empty Boxes. A Sansa Fuze personal digital player is the pretty much the entire function of a really pretty good FM stereo receiver minus power amps and plus a media library. Sooner or later someone is going add the power amps...
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post #5 of 16
8/21/12 at 6:06am
You want something that is not mainstream. Thus you have to pay for it. If you double the budget, this http://www.peachtreeaudio.com/decco-refurbished-integrated-amplifier.html will do what you want.
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post #6 of 16
8/21/12 at 6:43am
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I was being very generous with the $250 I stated. Something as that, $150 should be a obtainable price point.
I don't think what you want can be had even in a standard size unit for $150. What you're looking for is an HK 3490, but it'll run you at least $300, I think, and it is not small.

What's the optical input for?
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post #7 of 16
8/21/12 at 7:02am
Another option is one of all-in-one devices like http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/HT-D550/ZA

Less than $300 retail price.
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post #8 of 16
8/21/12 at 9:31am
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Another option is one of all-in-one devices like http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/HT-D550/ZA
Less than $300 retail price.

Close but no cigar - depth > 9 inches:

16.9 (W) x 2.3 (H) x 9.8 (D) inches

Nice try, though! ;-)
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post #9 of 16
8/21/12 at 1:55pm
fwiw ,i found what your looking for but twice the price your willing to pay, the teac a-h01 $499
dim. 8.5x2.2x8.5 has 2 anolog, 1 optical plus has sub preout ,headphone preout and a dac probually why its so much
Edited by smasher50 - 8/21/12 at 2:12pm
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post #10 of 16
8/21/12 at 8:43pm
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That Peachtree is out, ugly & too expensive
That HK 3490 is a monster, exactly what I don't want,
All in one's are out, speakers I don't need,
That Teac would be Ok, other than the price and no tone controls. $500 and no bass & treble?

It's used in a spare room with other equipment on a shelf (hence the limitation on depth (and width) above a desk for a PC, DVR Recorder and a DVR w/ a optical out. I wanted the optical specifically for the DVR even though the analog audio is probably adequate.

I was hoping someone might of come across something in their travels since I couldn't. frown.gif
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post #11 of 16
8/22/12 at 3:35pm
must be a mis print with that pyle amp. says 2x120watts at .03 dist. at no mention of ohms but only 20 watts 4 ohm at 1% dist.
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post #12 of 16
8/22/12 at 4:35pm
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must be a mis print with that pyle amp. says 2x120watts at .03 dist. at no mention of ohms but only 20 watts 4 ohm at 1% dist.

No, the larger number is what is known to many as "Pyle Watts" ;-)

I took a long look at this a few months back and bought a Yamaha AVR,
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post #13 of 16
8/22/12 at 5:08pm
and may i ask what are "pyle watts" for future reference
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post #14 of 16
8/23/12 at 5:45am
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wagnju;
Thanks I have seen those and others like them, but they are too small, have QC issues and have no optical input. (I don't want an external adapter for the last omission.)
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and may i ask what are "pyle watts" for future reference
eek.gif LMAOROTH.
The 3rd reason I wouldn't be interested. wink.gif
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post #15 of 16
8/23/12 at 5:59am
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Originally Posted by smasher50 View Post

and may i ask what are "pyle watts" for future reference

watts that only exist in the mind of the person writing the marketing copy... wink.gif
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post #16 of 16
8/23/12 at 6:10am
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and may i ask what are "pyle watts" for future reference

They seem to be related to PMPO watts.

http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/PMPO.html

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PMPO Watts

This term refers to the maximum power output achieved for a speaker system under perfect conditions. PMPO is a controversy term, as many feel it is used as a marketing ploy, since the perfect conditions on which PMPO are based are next to impossible to achieve in a home where the speaker system is set up. The PMPO of a speaker is actually based on the maximum power output in a very small period of time (microseconds). Since no musical note lasts for such a short amount of time this peak performance cannot be reproduced in real usage of the speaker. The PMPO value is often seen listed as "watts PMPO" on product packaging. PMPO is also called peak music power output.
"

I think that the key words above are "next to impossible", which is in my judgement excessively complementary to PMPO.

The automotive equivalent to PMPO watts would be the top speed of a car that was obtained experimentally by dropping it from a high place with a high coefficient of gravity in a vacuum, with a large initial velocity.
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