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post #61 of 185
Poor Molly...this show seems to require at least one brutally shocking death per episode. I'm still enjoying the ride but the storyline seems to be all over the place, doesn't it?
post #62 of 185
I'm surprised that no one mentioned Franka Potente from Run Lola Run and The Bourne Identity/Supremacy playing Eve.
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

No one mentioned it? I guess you didn't read Post #1.

D'oh! You're right. I didn't. redface.gif
Edited by allargon - 9/13/12 at 7:55pm
post #63 of 185
I just deleted my season pass for this one. I watched four episodes and it never got any better. They need better writing and better acting. Production values are just too low.
post #64 of 185
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I'm surprised that no one mentioned Franka Potente from Run Lola Run and The Bourne Identity/Supremacy playing Eve.
No one mentioned it? I guess you didn't read Post #1.
post #65 of 185
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Originally Posted by Gary McCoy View Post

I just deleted my season pass for this one. I watched four episodes and it never got any better. They need better writing and better acting. Production values are just too low.

Although I will continue to stick with the show, at least for a while longer, it's hard to argue with your analysis. Both the writing and acting are poor. The young actor who plays Corcoran is not very talented and I think the guy who plays his rich friend from the war may be even worse. I have always thought that Anastasia Griffith was limited but she has been utterly unconvincing as the widow of the evil Haverford. About the best I can say for Copper is that BBC America had the wit to limit the season to 10 episodes.
post #66 of 185
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I just deleted my season pass for this one. I watched four episodes and it never got any better. They need better writing and better acting. Production values are just too low.
I still don't get the concept of "season pass" but to each his own.
post #67 of 185
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I still don't get the concept of "season pass" but to each his own.
What's not to get? That's how you set up a DVR to record all the episodes of a show.

If you no longer want to watch a show, you delete the season pass.

It sure beats tuning in live or having to do a manual record every week.
post #68 of 185
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I still don't get the concept of "season pass" but to each his own.

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What's not to get? That's how you set up a DVR to record all the episodes of a show.
If you no longer want to watch a show, you delete the season pass.
It sure beats tuning in live or having to do a manual record every week.

Maybe he knew what a season pass is but was being ironic. I hope that was it.smile.gif
post #69 of 185
This is a very good show - atmospheric and interesting. For those who are critical and say they have stopped watching, I'm curious as to which current shows make the cut for them. In other words, which shows on this week have better writing, acting, and production values?
post #70 of 185
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This is a very good show - atmospheric and interesting. For those who are critical and say they have stopped watching, I'm curious as to which current shows make the cut for them. In other words, which shows on this week have better writing, acting, and production values?

From my TiVo's To Do list for the next week here are the upcoming shows that I think "have better writing, acting, and production values" than Copper:

  • Strike Back
  • Sons of Anarchy
  • Boardwalk Empire
  • Hell On Wheels
  • Weeds
  • Alphas
  • White Collar
  • Covert Affairs


Nevertheless, as noted in my last post, I will stick with Copper despite what seem to me to be its significant weaknesses.
post #71 of 185
Tastes differ.
post #72 of 185
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Maybe he knew what a season pass is but was being ironic. I hope that was it.smile.gif
That was it. Sounds like he took a "rest of the season pass" on his season pass.
post #73 of 185
Last night's episode was excellent...this show continues to improve.smile.gifcool.gif
post #74 of 185
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Originally Posted by Gary McCoy View Post

I just deleted my season pass for this one. I watched four episodes and it never got any better. They need better writing and better acting. Production values are just too low.

Although I will continue to stick with the show, at least for a while longer, it's hard to argue with your analysis. Both the writing and acting are poor. The young actor who plays Corcoran is not very talented and I think the guy who plays his rich friend from the war may be even worse. I have always thought that Anastasia Griffith was limited but she has been utterly unconvincing as the widow of the evil Haverford. About the best I can say for Copper is that BBC America had the wit to limit the season to 10 episodes.

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Last night's episode was excellent...this show continues to improve.smile.gifcool.gif

I'm not sure I would fault the writing, actime, or production values. I too deleted my SP for Copper this weekend. I gave the show more then a fair shot, but it just isn't catching me I guess. Others seem to like it, but I thought this weekend's show was just a bit too bad for me. It was boarderline, and it slipped over the boarded. I'm not saying it was terrible or anything, just not keeping me entertained. It was a good effort, and I'm sure many others are thoroughly entertained.
post #75 of 185
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

From my TiVo's To Do list for the next week here are the upcoming shows that I think "have better writing, acting, and production values" than Copper:
  • Strike Back
  • Sons of Anarchy
  • Boardwalk Empire
  • Hell On Wheels
  • Weeds
  • Alphas
  • White Collar
  • Covert Affairs
Nevertheless, as noted in my last post, I will stick with Copper despite what seem to me to be its significant weaknesses.

"Strikeback" and "Weeds" (past Season 2) have better writing?

"Strikeback" has better acting?

Are you sure?
post #76 of 185
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"Strikeback" and "Weeds" (past Season 2) have better writing?
"Strikeback" has better acting?
Are you sure?

Gotta side with gwsat on this one. "Strikeback" may not be high art, but it is entirely entertaining. Its premise is kind of "wink wink nod nod" to me. Great locales, fast action (believable, or not), hot women. What's not to like? biggrin.gif

BTW, I do like Copper, I just don't love it.
post #77 of 185
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I'm not sure I would fault the writing, actime, or production values. I too deleted my SP for Copper this weekend. I gave the show more then a fair shot, but it just isn't catching me I guess. Others seem to like it, but I thought this weekend's show was just a bit too bad for me. It was boarderline, and it slipped over the boarded. I'm not saying it was terrible or anything, just not keeping me entertained. It was a good effort, and I'm sure many others are thoroughly entertained.

Glad I'm not the only one - I lasted around 4 episodes too, and just had to stop. Kudos to those still watching and enjoying, hope it gets picked up for S2 for your benefit.
post #78 of 185
I won't pretend Copper is a great show, but it has alot of potential.
Because of that, I'll stick with it...for now.wink.gif
post #79 of 185
My assessment of the show is, I enjoy watching it, but wouldn't miss it if it disappeared. It's entertaining enough to keep me watching, but is pretty average overall and really doesn't spark an "I have to watch this" need in me.
post #80 of 185
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My assessment of the show is, I enjoy watching it, but wouldn't miss it if it disappeared. It's entertaining enough to keep me watching, but is pretty average overall and really doesn't spark an "I have to watch this" need in me.
That about sums up how I feel about it as well, it's just okay and I could see the episodes piling up on my DVR and never getting around to watching them. The lead is just not a compelling enough character or even a very good actor for me to care much what happens with him and by extension the whole show.
post #81 of 185
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The lead is just not a compelling enough character or even a very good actor for me to care much what happens with him.
Definitely the major weakness of the show.

Corcoran is no Al Swearengen...nor Nucky Thompson.
Although Deadwood and BE is much more than just those two...nevertheless, they are the bedrock of those 2 series.
Unfortunately, the showrunners here don't get that....
post #82 of 185
I actually like the guy who plays Corcoran. He kind of reminds me of Johnny Depp a little bit.
post #83 of 185
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Definitely the major weakness of the show.
Corcoran is no Al Swearengen...nor Nucky Thompson.
Although Deadwood and BE is much more than just those two...nevertheless, they are the bedrock of those 2 series.
Unfortunately, the showrunners here don't get that....

As noted in an earlier post, I agree. Tom Weston-Jones seems to me to be a fairly typical young pretty boy. He isn't exactly untalented, but, unlike Steve Buscemi's performances as Nucky Thompson or Ian McShane's as Al Swearengen, Weston-Jonses' performances don't soar.
post #84 of 185
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As noted in an earlier post, I agree. Tom Weston-Jones seems to me to be a fairly typical young pretty boy. He isn't exactly untalented, but, unlike Steve Buscemi's performances as Nucky Thompson or Ian McShane's as Al Swearengen, Weston-Jonses' performances don't soar.
I think the problem is, he seems to be at the mercy of too many people to be a really compelling character.

After that opening scene from the pilot, I was hoping he'd be turn of the century "Dirty Harry". Instead, he's more like "Quincy" on a grumpy morning.
post #85 of 185
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He isn't exactly untalented, but, unlike Steve Buscemi's performances as Nucky Thompson or Ian McShane's as Al Swearengen, Weston-Jonses' performances don't soar.
+1

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Instead, he's more like "Quincy" on a grumpy morning.
LOL, nice one.tongue.gif
post #86 of 185
Do you think it might have been better if they only did 6 episodes like many BBC series do (especially the ones they were showing on Weds where this started out) instead of stretching their season storyline to 10 episodes? I think so but that also may soon become the US model too because productions companies can't get financing for shows like they used too. BTW, Barry Levinson is apparently the showrunner on this series.
post #87 of 185
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After that opening scene from the pilot, I was hoping he'd be turn of the century "Dirty Harry". Instead, he's more like "Quincy" on a grumpy morning.

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LOL, nice one.tongue.gif

Yep, Network TV's snide analogy about Tom Weston-Jones' limitations reminded me of what one of the young Clint Eastwood's detractors had to say about his acting skill: "Eastwood has a range of emotion that runs the gamut from A to B.smile.gif Maybe Tom Weston-Jones will improve as he gets some years on him, God knows, Clint Eastwood did.
post #88 of 185
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

Yep, Network TV's snide analogy about Tom Weston-Jones' limitations reminded me of what one of the young Clint Eastwood's detractors had to say about his acting skill: "Eastwood has a range of emotion that runs the gamut from A to B.smile.gif Maybe Tom Weston-Jones will improve as he gets some years on him, God knows, Clint Eastwood did.
Honestly, this is the first thing I've seen him in, so I can only assume the part is written that way short of anything to compare to.

It just felt like he went from that "rogue cop who gets results" to a guy who just plays dirty to suit his own interests, yet only achieves the goal about half the time. He also seems to use force or bargaining at exactly the opposite times he should. I'm not sure his character fully knows what he's doing.

At least with Dirty Harry, it didn't matter. He always use the wumping stick. Even if the tactic didn't work, at least we got to see some heads getting cracked.
post #89 of 185
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Finally got around to watching this week's episode this evening. (What can I say? I cheated by posting after the last episode ran despite not having seen it, so sue me.smile.gif) As much as I enjoyed the young Franka Potente in the Bourne films, in Copper she really looks high mileage and I find her character not terribly appealing. Anastasia Griffith also continues to disappoint as does Tom Weston-Jones. I believe that Griffith's Mrs. Haverford is supposed to be slyly evil but her performances leave me thinking her Mrs. Haverford is just vague. Weston-Jones' heartfelt soul-baring to Mrs. Haverford sounded more like the woe-is-me bleating of a callow youth than those of a man with a missing wife and a dead daughter. Part of that, of course is that Weston-Jones is only 25 years old. The bottom line is that I have come to strongly suspect that the problem with both the Haverford and Corcoran characters is the writing, and perhaps the casting, rather that the perceived weaknesses of the actors.
post #90 of 185
After tonite's episode, the show's writing problem rear its ugly head again.

The dentist doesn't recognise the fruit cake he himself made to kill his wife's boy toy?
Oh yeah, put it in another box and he will COMPLETELY NOT remember baking one exactly like it.....rolleyes.gif

Blondie gives the little girl back to her "father" (step-father).
In spite of the fact, Cocorran threatened the guy's life if he ever came around the girl again?
Yeah, sure.rolleyes.gif
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