Originally Posted by sean_w_smith
Originally Posted by pmcd
Well it depends what you want from the HTPC. The Revo RL70 with 4 gigs, windows7 costs almost as much as the low end Mini and it's resale value is nowhere near as high. In addition, the Mini can do a heck of a lot more but then that is irrelevant if you are only looking for a dedicated XBMC box.
I am curious about this HD audio statement. What exactly do you mean when you say that the new Mini will not bitstream HD audio?
Phil, I think your way off base here.
The Acer is $309 (with windows 7)+ 9.95 for the RAM upgrade (which is not needed for XBMC) or $320
The mac mini starts at $587 and ONLY HAS 2 GIGS.
I'm sorry but $309 is not close to $587 its nearly 1/2 the cost.
This PC can do a hell of a lot more too as can the mac mini but thats irrelevant as we are talking streamers not PC's.
Additionally that ****** PC includes a wireless mouse, a wireless keyboard, and a wireless remote of which the MAC mini includes none of anymore. They used to at least included the AppleTV like remote.
The new Mac MINI running OSX will NOT bit stream HD Audio. That was a fact last time I checked. Has something apple's done in the latest OSX changed that? Previously apple's core audio subsystems was severly limited in supporting HDMI audio.
streamerlover: yes HTPC's can do 23.97 FPS. my ION1 RIG XBMC does this fine with 0 micro stutter.
The cheapest price in Canada for Acer RL70-UR10P Desktop PC REVO RL70 E450 2 500 W7HP is $350. It has win7 Home, no Bluetooth, wired mouse, wireless keyboard, 2gigs, 500 gig had. The Mac Mini is $580 for the cheapest, and a refurbished one (which for Apple is basically new) is around $500. The resale value is around 75% of the price while the Acer is not as high. The i5 CPU of the Mac is superior to the Revo's CPU. Now add in the lack of real AirPlay for the Acer, the stuttering problem for XBMC when coming out of win7 sleep ( well documented and still no fix, although you just need to restart things). Don't get me wrong, I like XBMC on passively cooled nettops running win7 but I can use my Mini as my main computer whereas I can't use my Shuttle (similar to the Revo RL70 though not as powerful).
The Mini will bitstream HD audio under Windows though you are correct that it won't under OSX. If that is an issue than of course you would not go the Mac route. It isn't to me, but I suspect my audio preferences are in the minority of users here. Fan noise is more important as is the integration with my iDevices and Plex.
Finally, I think it is a bit of a stretch comparing an Acer nettop to the Mac Mini. I am not saying the Revo is junk, it isn't, but it's not quite in the same quality league. Also, I think win7 home is not quite OSX which is more like win7 pro. Of course a lot of this is irrelevant from a strict XBMC media player point of view.