The DVD Is Dying - Page 45

Originally Posted by rezzy 

My copy of A.I. apparently has "disc-rot", so that's at least one dying DVD. If my computer will spin it up, I'll rip it before it's too late (and no, I don't mean American Idol).

Originally Posted by sog35 

BS.
Companies can't legally disclose your personal information to non affiliates. They can't say for example every single product you purchased in the last 12 months. Show me a link or proof that ANY MAJOR RETAILER SELLS SUCH INFORMATION. You won't find it because its illegal and bad business. Look at Walmarts privacy policy. Most major retailers policy is very similar.
http://corporate.walmart.com/privacy-security/walmart-privacy-policy

Originally Posted by cctvtech 

I'll vouch for that. A couple of years ago, I attended a presentation by LexisNexis. Scary stuff! Its amazing what information is available to almost anyone willing to spend the money. They demonstrated how they can track you and all of your acquaintances back and link people and places. The presenter showed a chart detailing all of his connections since college. There were hundreds of links.
What I found scary is their claim that they will only release the first five numbers of your SSN to business/private entities (law enforcement/government agencies get all nine). When I pointed out that there are many ways to get the last four digits, they had nothing to say.
And now they also use social media to drill down into your private lives even deeper. I wonder about the modern generation who posts their every move on Facebook, twitter and the like. Don't they realize that will eventually bite them?
Add to that government initiatives to incorporate facial recognition everywhere and you have a recipe for total control of your lives. See here: FBI's next-gen identification system stirs Big Brother fears.
George Orwell was right - just off by a few years.

Originally Posted by rightintel 

Yes, they actually can. The fact that any major retailer doesn't do it has nothing to do w/ LEGALITY(as I ALREADY stated had you read it carefully), it has to do w/ WHAT WORKS. As I stated(and you just simply repeated), it's bad for business. It has nothing to do w/ what's LEGAL.

Originally Posted by sog35 

if a company is foolish enough to release information about a customer they will open themselves to major lawsuits.
Don't be ridiculous, even Mickey Mouse companies are not stupid enough to release personal information of customers.
Show me ONE LINK that shows companies have the LEGAL right to sell customer information without consent. SHOW ME ONE. JUST ONE.
Unlike you I'll pull up FACTS not just blow smoke. Look at the SBA.gov link:
http://www.sba.gov/content/overview-privacy-laws
"Using its authority under the Federal Trade Commission Act, which prohibits unfair or deceptive practices, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) enforces companies' privacy policies about how they collect, use and secure consumers' personal information. "
Yes a privacy policy is optional. But you said no one will enforce the privacy policy, you are wrong. The FTC will enforce it. If a company DOES NOT have a policy does not mean they can sell private information. The FTC can still prosecute companies for unfair or deceptive practices. Disclosing private information no doubt falls into the unfair catagory.

Originally Posted by rightintel 

1st of all, there wouldn't be ANY link stating what any company is allowed to do: that would be irrational because the list would be too exhaustive. Show me a link that sez Walmart can charge a certain profit margin, or a link that sez they can charge $200 for a piece of furniture. There's no links showing that either.
"While NOT REQUIRED BY LAW, creating a privacy policy is important if you want people to buy your products, particularly if you are involved in e-commerce."
The FTC can't enforce a companies privacy policy, and it has no legal authority to do so(since it's a POLICY, not a LAW). A private company can have any policy on these matters it wants. It's private property, and privacy policies are a matter that are left in hands of the owner, not the FTC(as nobody is FORCED to do business w/ anyone in the 1st place). "The FTC will enforce it." Enforce WHAT? There's NO LAW requiring a privacy policy in the 1st place. They only have the legal authority to enforce a LAW(fraud, false advertising, etc.), not a private company's policy. A company could openly state they'd reveal ALL your info to EVERYONE, and there's nothing you or the FTC can do about it(unless it resulted in some sort of damages-id theft, credit fraud, etc.). Outside of actual damages, the only remedy is to file a complaint to the FTC, BBB, etc., and vote w/ your wallet(which is why most of them have a privacy policy in the 1st place-there's no law). These agencies give the company a bad rep(as they should), and the pressure causes them to change their practices(or go out of business eventually from the bad press).

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart 


So?

Your credit card purchases are tracked by all retailers. How do you know what they are doing with it?

IMO you are just being paranoid - nothing more.

Originally Posted by Lee Stewart 


If the consumer goes to his/her UV account to stream a movie they purchased and sees a menu that says they can do so but they have to provide a credit card # for the $2/$3 charge they will incur each time they decide to stream one of the movies in their family account, you can bet anything you want the UV will fail.

It doesn't make a difference that those UV descriptions say . . . it is what they intend to do that makes all the difference.

Meanwhile, WB just recently announced that many of their digital copy discs which had expiration dates that have passed has decided at no charge to extend said expiration dates.

Originally Posted by sog35 

FTC hammers Google for breaking privacy policy.
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2012/08/google.shtm
“The record setting penalty in this matter sends a clear message to all companies under an FTC privacy order,” said Jon Leibowitz, Chairman of the FTC. “No matter how big or small, all companies must abide by FTC orders against them and keep their privacy promises to consumers, or they will end up paying many times what it would have cost to comply in the first place.”

Originally Posted by sog35 

So now I've finally driven the final nail in this ridiculous debate about privacy policy keep this in mind:

If you go exclusive to UV your ENTIRE video library will be know by almost every single studio. UV will be able to divulge your entire library because all the participating studio's are affiliates to UV. Do you really want that information out there?

And think about this: Why does UV force you to fill out all those stupid forms online? What do you think they do with all that information? What do you think they will do when they have access to your ENTIRE library???

Originally Posted by rightintel 

Your lack of reading comprehension is disturbing. The FTC can only prosecute a company for violating THIER OWN policy as stated. That's because it's fraud. Their is no law for them to enforce outside of that. If a company states they won't release your info and then proceed to do just that, they can enforce THAT AND THAT ONLY. "keep THEIR privacy promises to consumers". THEIR being the operative word. I repeat-THEIR being the operative word. THEIR BEING THE OPERATIVE WORD. THEIR BEING THE OPERATIVE WORD. That sinking in yet? A company can do whatever they wish w/ your info, as long they aren't committing fraud.
Company ABC sez "we don't share your info". They then proceed to do that-FRAUD, ILLEGAL.
Company ABC sez "we DO share your info all day everyday w/ everyone we can whenever humanly possible". They then proceed to do that-NOT FRAUD, PERFECTLY LEGAL, FTC has no legal authority to do anything.
All the links you provided(had you actually read them) are cases where the company violated IT'S OWN POLICY, NOT A FEDERAL LAW(for the 10th time now), BECAUSE THEIR ISN'T ONE. Again(cuz you obviously aren't getting it) Google BROKE THIER OWN POLICY, not a law. If their policy allowed for what they did, the FTC could've done nothing. Google's policy said one thing, and they did another. A business can't tell a consumer they doing one thing w/ their info, then do another(fraud). If a company's privacy policy allows for them to do so, the FTC can't do a thing, because their not deceiving you in the 1st place. It's all out there and up front. How many ways can I make this clear? Try reading more carefully(your links), and less emotional/irrational/knee-jerking.

Originally Posted by sog35 

like i said i wont respond until you give me a legit link.
you are blowing air.

Originally Posted by rightintel 

It sez it in your OWN LINK(had you read it). That why the link says THEIR in the quote by the FTC official. I suppose the FTC chairman is blowing air too huh? You're hilarious. The quote by the FTC's own chairman uses the word "their" for cryin' out loud. The links YOU PROVIDED to the FTC's website says they make sure companies follow THEIR OWN PRIVACY POLICY AS STATED. Seriously, you're not man enough to admit it, fine. PM me or move on to the next subject already. You get the last word, I'm not responding again...

Originally Posted by sog35 

i care.
once they realize I've purchased 4 versions of the LOTR (dvd,dvd ext, blu, blu ext) they will spam me non stop until I buy the uber LOTR final edition.

Originally Posted by Tulpa 

As opposed to all the nonstop spamming they'll do anyway, except without the info they'll spam you with movies you don't care about? Having them not know what you purchased won't stop the spamming. Nothing stops that, short of unplugging your computer from the modem and filling the ethernet jack with superglue.
Companies are not big brother. They're not going to release info on the disgustingly perverted sex acts you do in your bedroom*. They're going to look at what you purchased and send you info on related products. You're free to look at them or ignore them, but you're not going to ever stop them.
*everyone already knows what you and the dog do with the peanut butter. And quite frankly, you should be ashamed.

Originally Posted by Tulpa 

Well, don't let me catch you doing it to that one, either.

Originally Posted by sog35 

too late, look at your dogs face.

Originally Posted by jvc 

All that these 'experts' do besides trying to suggest to us which way they want us to go so that they can once again gain control of their content, is watch the numbers. They see that streaming is up and disc sales are down, so this must mean that streaming is what people want! No, streaming is up because cell phones and iPads are being sold and they don't take discs! Discs are not good for portables anyway, but at home, people prefer discs! I would not mind anything different from a disc, but it would have to be cool looking and support a lot of things.

Hell, I am STILL waiting for those deep color BD's!

Think about this, they put streaming capabilities in just about everything these days so it would stand to reason that streaming would gain a wider audience. Corporations would prefer for us to stream because streaming is cheaper than packaged goods PLUS, it can be better controlled. Why do you think all of this 'cloud computing' is popping up all over the place? All that is is storing YOUR stuff (which they would claim is THEIR stuff) on their servers where THEY control it - not to mention some of your personal documents! If you like convenience over privacy, then go ahead and do it. I prefer my discs, although they claim that the next Xbox could be on memory cards. I guess we are at that time now since SD Cards hold more than BD's now. Where are those 100GB BD's? All of these promises and none have come yet. Maybe they are saving them for 4K?

Some well-timed research out from NPD, just in time for Google gearing up for its I/O event, where it is announcing news about Google TV, new wireless devices and Android. The researchers say that TV consumption on tablets has more than doubled in the last year in the 14 markets that it surveys, and 70 percent of consumers now say they watch video on devices other than TVs. The device leading the charge — or change, as the case may be? PCs; tablets still accounting for less than 15 percent of TV consumption.

TV, meanwhile, still ranks as the single most-used device for watching television, accounting for the other 30 percent of TV viewing.