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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
Hey all - long-time lurker, first-time poster here.

I just ordered the Denon AVR-1612 from Crutchfield for $210 (http://slickdeals.net/f/4952998-Denon-AVR-1612-receiver-199-w-code-at-Crutchfield?) based off of recommendations I've read on this site. I'm looking to get a 5.1 setup for $300 - $400 (total budget including receiver of $500-600) for a 15' x 20' room. The speakers will be used for 50% movies/TV, 40% music, and 10% music in a loud party setting. Strong subwoofer and volume a definite plus. I can still return the receiver, so if you think there is a better one for my needs I'm all ears. Size of speakers isn't important.

I was thinking about the following:
Any suggestions would be most welcome!
Edited by tbenst - 8/24/12 at 9:36am
post #2 of 26
If you want strong volume you don't want satellite speakers.

Try to find something larger like bookshelf speakers that can play deeper and fill a room better. Are you opposed to used speakers? If not, what area are you in so we can search the local Craigslist.

Of the 3 you listed I would get the Polk Monitor 30 because of the larger drivers.
post #3 of 26
Agreed. Go with the Polks. Satellite speakers will not cut it for a loud party setting.

And for a subwoofer, get the Energy S10.3 from Newegg or the BIC F12 off of Amazon.

And the Denon 1612 is a great choice for your budget. smile.gif
post #4 of 26
Since you want to turn things up from time to time - and you are on a tight
budget with your room size. I would look at the Bic bookshelf speakers.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-DV62si-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00006JPDI

And, the Energy S10.3 sub
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882269026

That can get you started for now.

You may or may not, want to look at the Jamo speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1CZ0CD7192
Edited by zieglj01 - 8/24/12 at 3:12pm
post #5 of 26
I'm in pretty much the same boat as the op.

I just picked up a Denon AVR-2112CI, and am looking to get some speakers to go with it.

mainly movie & tv watching (95%) and barely music (5% or less).

was looking at something like Def Tech 60. but I'm sure getting non-sat speakers is better.

room size is fairly small (maybe 10 long x 13 wide). couch is only 6 feet from my Samsung 55" smart LED.

like to keep price of all speakers and sub under $400 total.
post #6 of 26
I would go with a 2.0 setup for now, and then add a sub down the road. Something like the Infinity P363 would be my recommendation, there is a big thread on them, and they are pretty popular budget speakers. You will still find plenty of bass with towers, and will make your money go much farther. Later on pick up one of the aforementioned subs, and a center channel and go from there.
post #7 of 26
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Originally Posted by Transmaniacon View Post

Something like the Infinity P363 would be my recommendation, there is a big thread on them, and they are pretty popular budget speakers.

Might not be a good choice if the intention is to use them for loud parties like the thread starter specified. See the discussion starting with this post.
post #8 of 26
Polk audio monitor 70's and Polk cs2 center channel. You can catch the monitor 70's for $180 apiece, but at $200 still a great deal. The cs2 goes on sale for $130 often, $109 sometimes and $99 once in a blue moon. Over budget, but starting out with an awesome 3.0, decent bass and upgrade the rest as needed or wanted.

butter and jelly please.
post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

If you want strong volume you don't want satellite speakers.
Try to find something larger like bookshelf speakers that can play deeper and fill a room better. Are you opposed to used speakers? If not, what area are you in so we can search the local Craigslist.
Of the 3 you listed I would get the Polk Monitor 30 because of the larger drivers.

Thanks for the advice, I will stay away from satellite speakers. I'm not opposed to used speakers and I am located in Providence, RI (and have a car). Just offered someone $200 for two used Series I Monitor 70s - let me know if any speakers catch your eye!

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Originally Posted by zieglj01 View Post

Since you want to turn things up from time to time - and you are on a tight
budget with your room size. I would look at the Bic bookshelf speakers.
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-DV62si-Bookshelf-Speakers/dp/B00006JPDI
And, the Energy S10.3 sub
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882269026
That can get you started for now.
You may or may not, want to look at the Jamo speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1CZ0CD7192

Looks like the BIC has 1dB higher sensitivity than the Monitor 3s. I'm a little worried about the Jamos as I can't find its model number or reviews for it. However, I just found open-box Monitor 3s for $72 - any experience buying open box speakers from newegg?
post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by cel4145 View Post

Might not be a good choice if the intention is to use them for loud parties like the thread starter specified. See the discussion starting with this post.

Interesting point on the P363, if they are indeed 4 ohm speakers then it would probably be best to avoid them. Regardless, I would still suggest going with a 2.0 setup, and then build from there. As was mentioned, the Polk Monitor 70s are a good budget choice.
post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by tbenst View Post


Looks like the BIC has 1dB higher sensitivity than the Monitor 3s. I'm a little worried about the Jamos as I can't find its model number or reviews for it. However, I just found open-box Monitor 3s for $72 - any experience buying open box speakers from newegg?
The Bic will still sound bigger and will cover more area than the Polk, and will have more bass.
However the Polk is a better option, over the sat speakers that you were looking at. As far as the
overall sound quality, I give the edge to Bic. Newegg is a good company, and has good customer
service. Your choice and option.
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by tbenst View Post

Thanks for the advice, I will stay away from satellite speakers. I'm not opposed to used speakers and I am located in Providence, RI (and have a car). Just offered someone $200 for two used Series I Monitor 70s - let me know if any speakers catch your eye!
Looks like the BIC has 1dB higher sensitivity than the Monitor 3s. I'm a little worried about the Jamos as I can't find its model number or reviews for it. However, I just found open-box Monitor 3s for $72 - any experience buying open box speakers from newegg?

Those are Jamo s426 speakers. Not bad if you're spending $200 or less. My local Fry's Electronics has them on sale for $150 for the 5 speaker set.
post #13 of 26
fwiw, i'm another believer to start with a good 2.0 setup and build on with your kind of budget.you just get a better quality foundation of sound to start. if you can look past the gloss white finish( imo with the black grilles look good to me) i would suggest apair of boston acoustics a 360's from accessories4less.these are an unbelivable bargin for their $400 price and a great foundation and sound to start in your size room and budget. they are well built and have better quality drivers than the entry polks line.they also have the matching center for $99 another bargin again just my 2 cents
post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by smasher50 View Post

fwiw, i'm another believer to start with a good 2.0 setup and build on with your kind of budget.you just get a better quality foundation of sound to start. if you can look past the gloss white finish( imo with the black grilles look good to me) i would suggest apair of boston acoustics a 360's from accessories4less.these are an unbelivable bargin for their $400 price and a great foundation and sound to start in your size room and budget. they are well built and have better quality drivers than the entry polks line.they also have the matching center for $99 another bargin again just my 2 cents

That is a good reccomendation
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/BOSA360WHA/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-A360-3-Way-Dual-6.5in-Tower-Speaker-Each-White/1.html

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/BOSA225CWHA/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-A225C-2-Way-Center-Channel-Speaker-White/1.html

And, for a tighter budget
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/BOSCS260IIB/BOSTON-ACOUSTICS-CS260II-2-way-Floor-Standing-Speaker-Each-Black/1.html
post #15 of 26
Thread Starter 
Haha you guys almost have me convinced to buy a 2.0. What about the JBL ES80BK ($327 for the pair at Fry's)? Would I be ok powering these with a denon 1612 (their sensitivity is 91dB, so that should be a plus if I understand correctly)
Edited by tbenst - 8/25/12 at 10:32am
post #16 of 26
Also look at the KEF iQ70's which Newegg has on sale for $199 each. they're $399 each or more elsewhere. Sale ends Sunday.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882156011
post #17 of 26
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Also look at the KEF iQ70's which Newegg has on sale for $199 each. they're $399 each or more elsewhere. Sale ends Sunday.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882156011

That's a great deal! You can get a much better foundation by going with 2.0. Most of these towers will play down as low as any budget sub you are looking at, and will reproduce the center channel sound very effectively.
post #18 of 26
Thread Starter 
Just bought a pair of the KEF iQ70s! Right on budget :P (although, in classic avsforum fashion, I bought 2 speakers instead of 6!)

Two questions about avoiding damage:
  • Do I need to be careful when playing, say, dubstep very loudly? And should I be concerned about the amp or the speakers in this case?
  • What is the loudest I should play the amp continuously?


Edit: Just saw in the Denon xx12 owners thread that I should keep the volume below 0 dB relative
Edited by tbenst - 8/25/12 at 5:20pm
post #19 of 26
The Denon 1612 was measured to put out 120 watts per channel into 2 channels. So unless you run the receiver so loud that the amp clips and distorts, the iQ70s should be able to handle the power. If you don't already, use a media player that has individual track volume leveling enabled (e.g. with iTunes or Media Monkey) for your parties. That way the volume is somewhat consistent (which you want anyway) so you that you don't have a super loud song come on when the volume is turned up to accommodate a quieter one. Then just listen to some of your heavier music on your own and get a feel for where the speakers are starting to distort and not play cleanly. Back off from that volume level a few notches.

Since you mentioned dubstep, especially be sure to locate the receiver such that it can cool (don't stack stuff on top of it or put it in a closed cabinet). Bass output below 100hz requires the amplifier to work very hard. Your receiver will love you once you get a sub.

Nice speaker choice, btw smile.gif
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by tbenst View Post

Edit: Just saw in the Denon xx12 owners thread that I should keep the volume below 0 dB relative

That may or may not work depending on the strength of the source audio. Best to use your ears (as I described above) and get a feel for where it's safe to run the speakers. I come from experience, having blown a tweeter during a college party. wink.gif
post #21 of 26
I would imagine that you won't reach the point where things are getting damaged before your reach the point of "why is the music so loud" at a party, unless it's an enormous room.
post #22 of 26
congrats on your choice of speakers now you have a solid foundation to build a great sounding system that will last for some years .way better choice than your 1st. post choices. now slowly save up for a good sub
post #23 of 26
Thread Starter 
Quick follow-up: got a response from my offer on the CL ad, who agreed to sell me two (used, two years old) Polk Audio Monitor 70 Series I (not the newer series II) for $200. Think I'd be better off getting those two plus a BIC F12 for $400 total, or two KEF IQ70 for $400? Would love to hear your guys' perspective.
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Those are Jamo s426 speakers. Not bad if you're spending $200 or less. My local Fry's Electronics has them on sale for $150 for the 5 speaker set.

I needed to replace my front speakers since my son put some holes in them and spill soda in them. I ended up going to Fry's Electronics in Oxnard while visiting my wife's friends, and I found a pair of Jamo S426 towers on sale for $87 dollars biggrin.gif I bought the last pair. I almost bought the display one for $50 bucks, but one of them appeared to be damaged.

So far I am very happy with them. They sound better than my stock speakers that came with my HT-S9100THX speaker system.
post #25 of 26
That's a good deal on the Polk Monitors.

If you are seriously into EDM, hip hop, and rap, then you would really enjoy having a sub. Although I'd get the Polk Monitors now in that case, and then hold off until you can afford the Klipsch RW-12 when it goes on sale at Newegg for $300, or get a BIC PL-200 (Acoustic Sound Design will typically take a bid of $280 for it). Not unreasonable to pay that much for a sub since a sub is a big speaker AND an amplifier.

Bass heavy music definitely benefits from a better sub smile.gif
post #26 of 26
You can get the Polk M70s NEW for right at 200 dollars/speaker from New Egg...so you are paying 50% for used. however, used speaker should be fine if they look okay and more important...sound okay!
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