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post #421 of 1014
11/19/12 at 12:22am
Shrek 1-4 is poor 3d movies try toy story 1 thats a good 2D to 3D converted movie .
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post #422 of 1014
11/19/12 at 5:50am
I believe Disney had the talent to rerender the entire film again with 2 cams.
Disney's prices might be jacked but you seriously get a top quality feature.

Shrek was $20 for 2D and 3D, Toy Story is $40. rolleyes.gif
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post #423 of 1014
11/19/12 at 7:03am
Yeh true .... Anyone seen i robot in 3D yet?
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post #424 of 1014
11/19/12 at 8:37am
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Originally Posted by vaktmestern View Post

Yes it works smile.gif got 3D running on the 2 at the same time now ,the splitter did work.
Use this splitter HQ HQSSH200, so that works it splitting one 3D signal to 4 units
Doom3 in 3D well it adds sumting to the aging game lill blurr when u fast turn but good 3D feel and good 3D adjustments on it

Is it the Xbox360 version you have? How is the 3D effect? It is said to be the best implemented in a video game so far...
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post #425 of 1014
11/19/12 at 9:43am
Yeh its the x360 one i got. Well its ok but when u fast turn it blurres the visuals, found cod blackops 2 a better 3D exsperience but i only played doom 3 a half a evning so far not the best 3D game but give it a go its sold at a nice price. 4player coop so wink.gif
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post #426 of 1014
11/19/12 at 12:14pm
i Robot's 3D wasn't that great... Very weak looking
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post #427 of 1014
11/19/12 at 3:36pm
I think only real 3D like Avatar will blow your socks off. Plus it's James freaking Cameron.

When Avatar Jake breaks free and goes for his first run and the dirt particals jump out at you looks amazing.
In general the layering of foreground, midground and background is pretty much present in every scene.
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post #428 of 1014
11/19/12 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by rrhomes View Post

My interest in this Sony HMD is getiing higher eveyday, true 720P per eye on OLED panels is state of the art image quality. If the focus is clear I don't see how this could be anything but amazing, no doubt 1080P version will be coming in the next year or two but Sony list this as equvilent tp 150" screen size and 720P is still very nice, since I know I can sell it down the road Im coming closer and closer to buying one of these babes. Can only image respectible 3D PC pluged into them. Temptation is reaching all time high ......I want one damn it, I know 3D must be off the charts. Virtual Reality is now Reality. in essence your buying a 150 720P OLED 3DTV for $999 .

Imo you are setting yourself up for initial disappointment. I had the same high expectations. Just remember that this device has a learning curve. With patience you will appreciate what it does and hopefully be able to overlook/overcome its flaws.
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post #429 of 1014
11/19/12 at 8:54pm
Black ops 2 on ps3 and the hmz is unreal!!
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post #430 of 1014
11/20/12 at 5:52am
i used to be 'OBSESSED' with emagin z800

i can NOW understand the frustration - guys
i do not want to spend on 3D monitor / TV even if i do , i'd rather choose 3d vision enabled monitor / TV than anything else.
3D TV - active / passive is still evolving - samsung may demo RDZ 3D tech soon so perspective buyers hold on to ur wallets - not the rt time to splurge yet.
emagin z800 does not do latest 3d - now it's just a f**king 2D monitor even not good at that - only demos the 'optics' which are so perfect. Wish if Sony HMZ had been so regd. optics and casing/comfort.

Now since i have stepped into 3D - here comes the issue. The only option to have virtual big screen 3D viewing is this Damn! machine - personal 3D viewer T1/T2 to give yourself 'Big screen experience'

I do not find any other device other than T1/T2 [ SMD st1080 is BS] and there is none in the market , so T1/T2 is undisputed - good or bad !

Now i truly understand the rage to modd T1/T2 instead of giving it up , as for 3D - nothing comes close ! find myself in the same situation as those hankering after T1/T2 for the same mission of 'portable' bigger screen 3D simulation .

Though G74sx 3d vision is very good but 3D is NOT immersive - only option T1 or T2.

Really so frustrating there is nothing else except T1/T2 for simulated big screen 3d simulation ! mad.gif
Edited by ancjob - 11/20/12 at 6:10am
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post #431 of 1014
11/20/12 at 6:13am
Pretty much, good or bad HMZ is it. If you want something now it will have to be the HMZ.

I find when watching DVD's native resolution looks better, yes its a smaller picture but it looks nicer.
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post #432 of 1014
11/20/12 at 6:38am
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Originally Posted by Mickice View Post

Pretty much, good or bad HMZ is it. If you want something now it will have to be the HMZ.
I find when watching DVD's native resolution looks better, yes its a smaller picture but it looks nicer.

it will be in India before Christmas hopefully , when i will try to get the demo !
usd$1350 or less - i do not have many choices. cinemizer oled and smd 1080 are just simply BS , nothing better than HMZ with oleds and huge fov.

Best part - nvidia 3d vision is also supported by T1/T2 which is great! nvidia 310.33 stereo driver supports HMZ line up.
refer here : http://www.nvidia.com/object/3dtv-play-system-requirements.html

Now i am only waiting for the damn beast to show up for demo to buy
Edited by ancjob - 11/20/12 at 7:15am
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post #433 of 1014
11/20/12 at 7:10am
Use my T2 evry day the second one is only used when people are over for a movie or to exsperience a 3D game
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post #434 of 1014
11/20/12 at 7:21am
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Originally Posted by vaktmestern View Post

Use my T2 evry day the second one is only used when people are over for a movie or to exsperience a 3D game

i now understand what BS the emagin z800 is , after being bitten with latest 3D bug - my G74sx 3D laptop which is simply awesome , have not played games yet but will do when the rt time comes with proper hardware [read hmz t2] smile.gif

Frankly - emagin z800 is only worth around usd$400-500 for it's '2D' and comfort and optics - video Q is still a 'big' BS mad.gif
i might even sell the emagin z800 once i get the HMZ suiting me just fine! what a waste of 'fantastic' optics on those crappy SVGA oleds and the stupid 3d input which no one cares about nowadays - emagin z800 is HISTORY [once upon a time].

Had it not been for the extensive modding which T1 requires i'd have purchased T1 by now - Damn that crappy Gearwheel for ipd which is an uphill task to remove unless one happens to be adventurous ! [ do not have issues with attached headphone , just the f**king gearwheel is the bane of T1]
Edited by ancjob - 11/20/12 at 8:50am
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post #435 of 1014
11/20/12 at 9:58am
Easy 2 remove that tho. didnt take long aswell cool.gif
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post #436 of 1014
11/20/12 at 2:27pm
Going to change out my tiny panny bd player to a diffrent one thinking oppo 103 atm cool.gif
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post #437 of 1014
11/20/12 at 5:45pm
I love to play game on Hmz-t2 ,any ' 3dvision ready' games are amazing , ( Trine 2, Batman or the witcher 2 )

for me the t2 easier adjust to get full clear whole screen compare to t1,
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post #438 of 1014
11/20/12 at 8:36pm
I just want to add my thoughts of this HMZ-T1 setup. I went to view one with the intentions of buying one. I really wanted to like this thing. This would be the ONLY chance to buy an OLED 3D TV at this time as none others exist outside of prototype trade show queens that always make their appearance at shows but not on shelves.

So I put this thing on and tested it. First the dopes at the store have the brightness too high so black levels looked worse than a cheap LCD. I fixed that and calibrated the thing. Now I got those inky OLED blacks, great! Now on to adjust the IPD slider things. I did that but my eyes seemed to be perfect in between those clicks so I had to settle for the closest. I guess people's IPDs are all set on 5 mm increments now? Who would have known. Then I waited for the crystal clear image to come through. It was there, in the middle. I fiddled around but everything toward the edge was a blurry mess. If I shifted the goggles to the left a bit I could get the middle and the left to look good but the other side was blurry. Shifted the other way the right good, left blurry. I think at one point I had them almost perfect but I breathed and it got all blurry on the edges again. Needless to say I left without the goggles and was dissapointed and angry at the same time. First why the big steps in the IPD adjust? Are Sony's engineers idiots? Do they even test these things? Then I looked at the lenses . They basically just made them the EXACT size needed as a bare minimum so that any deviations in the molds which normally show on edges will distort the image! Would it have killed them to add a few milimeters extra and make the lenses a little larger to compensate for edge abnormalities? Again are Sony's engineers idiots? Do they even test these things! I don't see how these things left the test stage. I left shaking my head. I just don't see how they could do all of that and not know that the lenses were inadequate. I just don't get it.

I like the concept and didn't even mind that they were only 720P, but for me these things still need work. Hopefully the T3 will fix these things.
Edited by DaveC19 - 11/20/12 at 8:51pm
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post #439 of 1014
11/21/12 at 12:35am
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Originally Posted by Yalishender View Post

Can anyone confirm the following?
The HMZ-T2 sold in Japan works on 100V 50-60HZ. Units for the US should be 120V 60HZ and rest of the world (Europe and Australia) 220-240V.
I have read on another thread that the HMZ-T1 was the same BUT actually despite the description the units would work worldwide without any transformer (step down or up voltage). The Sony websites mentions specific voltage probably to avoid import/exports of products. Given the fact that this draws only 15W, I imagine full voltage support would be piece of cake and actually cheaper to produce.
So my question is simple: can the unit sold in Japan work on 220-240V? Anyone who has tested and knows please let me know.
Cheers!

I purchased the HMZ-T2 100v set (thanks, blazin3d!) and was concerned with the voltage as well. Even though I read some posts stating that running it on 120v should not be an issue, I was still a bit paranoid about it so I used a step-down transformer. Even though it can supposedly run on 120v, I don't have the equipment or the know-how to test the components myself, especially inside the black box. Plus I'm unsure if running it at 120v would affect the longevity of the unit or if the internal components would be overly stressed because of the extra voltage/heat. I'm not an electrician, but I do know that these units are not cheap in my book and I'm not willing to take the risk of releasing the magic blue smoke. To go from 100v to 220-240v seems to be an even greater risk.

Back in 2001 when I picked up my first pair of "Face-Mounted Displays," the Olympus Eye-Trek FMD-250W from Akihabara, I had the same concerns about voltage. It was spec'd at 100v as well and I wasn't ready to leave Japan until my concerns were addressed. That was when I picked up the step-down transformer and haven't had any worries about it since. The FMD-250W still runs for the most part as it did the day I picked them up, although it is quite an antique in comparison to the HMZ-T2.

So from my perspective, if you have concerns with voltage, invest in an appropriate transformer.

My $0.02US
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post #440 of 1014
11/21/12 at 5:55am
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Originally Posted by DaveC19 View Post

I just want to add my thoughts of this HMZ-T1 setup. I went to view one with the intentions of buying one. I really wanted to like this thing. This would be the ONLY chance to buy an OLED 3D TV at this time as none others exist outside of prototype trade show queens that always make their appearance at shows but not on shelves.
So I put this thing on and tested it. First the dopes at the store have the brightness too high so black levels looked worse than a cheap LCD. I fixed that and calibrated the thing. Now I got those inky OLED blacks, great! Now on to adjust the IPD slider things. I did that but my eyes seemed to be perfect in between those clicks so I had to settle for the closest. I guess people's IPDs are all set on 5 mm increments now? Who would have known. Then I waited for the crystal clear image to come through. It was there, in the middle. I fiddled around but everything toward the edge was a blurry mess. If I shifted the goggles to the left a bit I could get the middle and the left to look good but the other side was blurry. Shifted the other way the right good, left blurry. I think at one point I had them almost perfect but I breathed and it got all blurry on the edges again. Needless to say I left without the goggles and was dissapointed and angry at the same time. First why the big steps in the IPD adjust? Are Sony's engineers idiots? Do they even test these things? Then I looked at the lenses . They basically just made them the EXACT size needed as a bare minimum so that any deviations in the molds which normally show on edges will distort the image! Would it have killed them to add a few milimeters extra and make the lenses a little larger to compensate for edge abnormalities? Again are Sony's engineers idiots? Do they even test these things! I don't see how these things left the test stage. I left shaking my head. I just don't see how they could do all of that and not know that the lenses were inadequate. I just don't get it.
I like the concept and didn't even mind that they were only 720P, but for me these things still need work. Hopefully the T3 will fix these things.

even i am so wary of the 'fit' issues - that instead of importing from Hongkong [220-240V , 50/60hz version] i prefer to wait to try before i buy!

Sony has all the great capability to make a perfect product but the effort is Half-hearted to say the least !
Seems they more interested in making money than to roll out quality product par-se.
They already have the feedback regd. what went wrong with T1 .
They kept 'casing' more or less the same , removed headphones, gearwheel for ipd adjustments and added 3.5mm audio jack - and perked up price by usd$200 over T1.[usd$1000+] surely now they mean money let the innovation go to hell. WTF ?

1)what makes them wary of using better lenses and designing better mounts for comfort after all they do make cameras so optics is definitely their deptt.? They can always partner with eMagin for optics design. Can't they ?

2)Why do not they test prototypes extensively with 3rd party testers/gamers to fine-tune design before final production ?

Too bad Sony a company with power to unleash revolution is just wasting all opportunities away by becoming more business minded !


BTW - anybody who tried T2 - does adding the "non removable adjustable[up-down]" forehead pad help in achieving the full clear focus by any chance ? anybody !
Edited by ancjob - 11/21/12 at 6:11am
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post #441 of 1014
11/21/12 at 7:14am
Yeh it does cool.gif youneed to adjust it up or down to fit ur head, Once u found ur setting its really a quick 2 use it.
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post #442 of 1014
11/21/12 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by vaktmestern View Post

Yeh it does cool.gif youneed to adjust it up or down to fit ur head, Once u found ur setting its really a quick 2 use it.

Good or bad - T2 seems to be the last hope for virtual big screen 3D for me !
I hope this will resolve all my 3d needs.
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post #443 of 1014
11/21/12 at 9:06am
Its alright, Ancjob is right in that the optics should be bigger. We deserve 100% clarity out of each eye.

I still like it tho, it's my Christmas present. cool.gif
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post #444 of 1014
11/21/12 at 9:24am
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Originally Posted by vaktmestern View Post

Yeh it does cool.gif youneed to adjust it up or down to fit ur head, Once u found ur setting its really a quick 2 use it.

yes what he said

it took me good few hours for the first time on and off till i am happy with it and now its easy to put on and off with whole screen in focus , i am very happy with T2 ( also using my Sennheiser HD 598 is much improvement over T1 )

ps, the trick is make some padding on the back and strap which it will help with the weight or buy from bravia3D if you don't want to make one yourself
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post #445 of 1014
11/21/12 at 11:00am
Gone from 4hours usage to all night with no poblem smile.gif just to adjust it right really
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post #446 of 1014
11/21/12 at 12:10pm
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Originally Posted by jommy999 View Post

yes what he said
it took me good few hours for the first time on and off till i am happy with it and now its easy to put on and off with whole screen in focus , i am very happy with T2 ( also using my Sennheiser HD 598 is much improvement over T1 )

Same experience for me. It took a while for the first time setup to get the fit right, and now it is good to go each time that I use it.

On the headphones, I find that my Pioneer SE-DHP2000 works better than the supplied ones (or for that matter my Sennheisers, that I have also tried). The Pioneer system is connected directly into the video sources, and bypasses the Sony surround sound simulator, using its own.

Nice toys.

Rick
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post #447 of 1014
11/21/12 at 12:30pm
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post #448 of 1014
11/21/12 at 1:08pm
Hello fellow hmz t2 users. I have a problem that I would like to get solved.
I whant to play a 3d game(gt5) on my ps3 console, 
displayd on hmz t2 AND
 on my 42 inc 2d(not 3d) led samsung tv AT THE SAME TIME. 
Is this possible with a 1.4 hdmi 3d switch?
My gole is to have tournament so everybody can see. English is not my native thung.
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post #449 of 1014
11/21/12 at 1:39pm
Yes i use one cool.gif

but no not as a 3D game on the t2 and as a 2D on the sammy ats time tho smile.gif
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post #450 of 1014
11/21/12 at 5:09pm
Has anyone taken apart their hmz-t2 and have photos? Or is anyone willing to and post pics off the insides removed?
I'm thinking of seeing if I can design a new light weight case for it and the t1.
I'd do it, but I have sold all mine to others that wanted them.

My goal is to try and make a light weight new case one could wear made of possibly fabric and other material.
This way, it's light, and one could get good focus and a full screen view without the heaviness. It would be totally cushioned for comfort.
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