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post #481 of 1138
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Originally Posted by ekendahl View Post

Audio technica 50 are the ones I use. I don't think you can go wrong there. Also I can crank them up pretty much without my wife complaining at night in bed. An other option might be some surround phones. I don't have any experience there though.

smile.gif think ill go for those then before xmas got sum sony surround ones but im curious if wired ones will give me a better movie exsperience.
post #482 of 1138
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Originally Posted by ekendahl View Post

Hi,
I am fairly happy with my T2. About the only time I have to watch films are when everyone has gone to bed (yes – I’m “married with children”) and it is quite awesome to have this thing on in bed together with a pair of good closed earphones. I can live with the somewhat uncomfortable “helmet” but I am disturbed that it is not possible to get full focus. I mean – I can see that the nice picture is all there moving the thing around a little but not all at once. Very disturbing!!! Like someone else said – I get the feeling that I am not getting close enough to the lenses. Btw – there was not any lens protection on this thing out of the box were there…? Sometimes I get the feeling that there is… snip snip...

I had the exact same problem (of getting full focus) at the start, but it's perfect now after tweaking with the straps and headrest position. Do you use the "light blocker" and cable guide? You might want to get rid of them as they interfere with getting perfect fit (at least they did in my case). Also you might want to make sure you are having a source that feeds it 720P instead of 1080P as it has to scale at 1080P and you might not set it up correctly then frown.gif

I started out trying to get full focus on the PS3 @1080P, which didn't work good as it is scaling the signal down to 720P (duh). It went much easier when I used laptop with 720P smile.gif Did you check out the HMZ-T1 thread? they modify the MHZ to have the lenses independent, might be worth it to check out some of the video's and see how they do it?

IF you feel you cannot get close enough to the lenses and you have the headrest forward, then you can try removing the foam part and replacing ti with something else (sponge).?
Edited by theWulfen - 11/24/12 at 2:04am
post #483 of 1138
1080 vs 720 should have no issue on focus.

For headphones I use the SONY MDR-V6, $50 on Amazon and in my opinion sound amazing.
You will not be disappointed!!!!!1111 Do it!
Edited by Mickice - 11/24/12 at 6:40am
post #484 of 1138
With regard to the PS3 and the HMZ-T2, should I manually tell the PS3 that the device is 720p? I believe that it AUTOMATICALLY calibrates it for 1080p. Is there a difference between it's auto calibration of 1080p and manually setting it to 720p?

Will I notice a more clear and less fuzzy picture at 720p vs. 1080p?

Please advise.
post #485 of 1138
With regard to the PS3, does the SCREEN SIZE adjustment in video settings make a difference for 3D MOVIES?
I've watched movies at 10 inches and 1000 inches - there doesn't appear to be any differences with regard to the effects experienced - same effects at both settings.

However, for GAMES like ZEN PINBALL 3D, SONIC 3D, and MORTAL KOMBAT 3D, playing with this setting DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE - and if you have it "set wrong," the 3D effect can be very overwhelming whereby you need to reduce the effect because it is too hard on the eyes.

Any advice, thoughts, feedback on this post? Please advise.
post #486 of 1138
I have had the HMZ-T2 now for almost a month, and all I can say is that I LOVE IT!!!!
It truly is an immersive experience.

I use it in a recliner - it's awesome - and I shut all the lights off - feels like I am actually THERE - feels like I am actually in the middle of a movie theatre when watching movies.

I use it with the PS3 . . . I own the new PS3 Pulse headphones and THEY ARE AWESOME - it is VERY COOL to feel the ear cups VIBRATE around the ears during explosion scenes, fight scenes, or any scene/action sequence that has a lot of bass!!!!!

It is MANY MORE TIMES MORE COMFORTABLE than the HMZ-T1!

If you are "on the fence" with regard to whether or not you should buy this awesome tech toy . . . GET OFF THE FENCE AND BUY IT!!!!! IT IS AWESOME!!!!!

I took it to StarBucks in Regina, Saskatchewan Canada last Sunday . . . watched the movie WHAT ABOUT BOB in HD on iTunes via the HDMI port on the MacBook Pro with Retina Display - I got A LOT of stares!!!! It's not the most portable device on the planet . . . but I did manage to watch a whole movie at StarBucks in the presence of the general public smile.gif.
post #487 of 1138
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Originally Posted by ILuvSonyHMZ View Post

With regard to the PS3, does the SCREEN SIZE adjustment in video settings make a difference for 3D MOVIES?
I've watched movies at 10 inches and 1000 inches - there doesn't appear to be any differences with regard to the effects experienced - same effects at both settings.
However, for GAMES like ZEN PINBALL 3D, SONIC 3D, and MORTAL KOMBAT 3D, playing with this setting DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE - and if you have it "set wrong," the 3D effect can be very overwhelming whereby you need to reduce the effect because it is too hard on the eyes.
Any advice, thoughts, feedback on this post? Please advise.

Sounds reasonable. The two "images" in 3D movies are fixed at the time of recording. The only thing a Blu-ray player can do to alter things is to move everything closer to you, or further away. I guess it uses this setting to move things closer to avoid having your eyes diverge while looking at objects that appear "further away than infinity", when you use a very large screen.
But in a game, the images are generated in your PS3, so it can generate a depth that's suitable for your screen size.
The fact that 3D movies have this fixed 3D means that the depth of a certain scene is only correct at a certain viewing distance (pretty much regardless of screen size). When you move closer everything becomes flatter, so a ball will look more like a disc.
post #488 of 1138
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ILuvSonyHMZ View Post

With regard to the PS3, does the SCREEN SIZE adjustment in video settings make a difference for 3D MOVIES?
I've watched movies at 10 inches and 1000 inches - there doesn't appear to be any differences with regard to the effects experienced - same effects at both settings.
However, for GAMES like ZEN PINBALL 3D, SONIC 3D, and MORTAL KOMBAT 3D, playing with this setting DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE - and if you have it "set wrong," the 3D effect can be very overwhelming whereby you need to reduce the effect because it is too hard on the eyes.
Any advice, thoughts, feedback on this post? Please advise.

Which one you prefer for games?
post #489 of 1138
yes the bluray 3d is fixed within the source on the disc so it won't effect depth of the movie but game will adjust with PS3 , the lower screen size the more depth you will get but i can't set as low as 10" as i'll have carsick effect ( getting a little headache and i want to throw up ), therefore mine setting at 30"
post #490 of 1138
Am only going to answer your q's from a 3D movie perspective as I game on a PC.

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Originally Posted by ILuvSonyHMZ View Post

With regard to the PS3 and the HMZ-T2, should I manually tell the PS3 that the device is 720p?
The so-called controller box is actually more of a video processor that is seen as, and allows the device to accept, a full HD 1080p signal, which it then downscales to 720p "internally" and sends to the device in what is probably a proprietary format since it feeds two displays.
For movies, you should connect to it as a full HD 3D-BD capable display so it gets the full res sent to it which the controller box can then convert for you and which is what its designed for.


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Originally Posted by ILuvSonyHMZ View Post

I believe that it AUTOMATICALLY calibrates it for 1080p.
Yes, the controller box is designed to do the conversion for you so it does an HDMI handshake as a 1080p 3D-capable display.


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Originally Posted by ILuvSonyHMZ View Post

Is there a difference between it's auto calibration of 1080p and manually setting it to 720p?
For movies, obviously I wouldnt set it to 720p as that just will not work.
Someone else will have to answer the games part of it as I dont know if it will accept that signal.


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Originally Posted by ILuvSonyHMZ View Post

Will I notice a more clear and less fuzzy picture at 720p vs. 1080p?
That depends on whether the downscaler in the PS3 is better than the one in your control box and the best way to test this is to try it without changing any other settings on your T2 itself.
Again, dont know if this applies to games or not but it definitely doesnt apply to 3D movies.


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Originally Posted by ILuvSonyHMZ View Post

I own the new PS3 Pulse headphones and THEY ARE AWESOME - it is VERY COOL to feel the ear cups VIBRATE around the ears during explosion scenes, fight scenes, or any scene/action sequence that has a lot of bass!!!!!
I feel obliged to warn you that hearing loss is a one-way street.
This is coming from someone who still has to cover his ears when the subway trains pull in, so I know for sure I dont have it but I also meet a lot of younger people who barely notice the same screech.
Take care of your hearing in your youth and it will take care of you when you are older.


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Originally Posted by ILuvSonyHMZ View Post

I took it to StarBucks in Regina, Saskatchewan Canada last Sunday . . . I got A LOT of stares!!!! It's not the most portable device on the planet . . . but I did manage to watch a whole movie at StarBucks in the presence of the general public smile.gif.
You should get Sony to sponsor you for those public appearances.
post #491 of 1138
A question for any T2 owner

I am planning to use my T2 sitting in the sweet spot in my HT without any headphones connected to the T2 so the sound comes from my 5.1 setup.

My concern basically is, when you watch a movie this way on the T2, is there any audio sync issue ?

Thanks in advance.
post #492 of 1138
I use my t2 on my 7.1 system and it is in perfect sync.
post #493 of 1138
Yea it works great, no sync problems.
post #494 of 1138
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Originally Posted by nikonf5 View Post

A question for any T2 owner
I am planning to use my T2 sitting in the sweet spot in my HT without any headphones connected to the T2 so the sound comes from my 5.1 setup.
My concern basically is, when you watch a movie this way on the T2, is there any audio sync issue ?
Thanks in advance.

There is an av sync delay option.
post #495 of 1138
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Originally Posted by Adamd View Post

I use my t2 on my 7.1 system and it is in perfect sync.
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Originally Posted by bravia3D View Post

Yea it works great, no sync problems.
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Originally Posted by Mickice View Post

There is an av sync delay option.

Awesome, thanks for the prompt replies.

One more question.

Does anyone know whether there is some multiple key-press options for entering a service menu or some other hidden option that was discovered on the t1 that is also present on this model ?

Thanks.
post #496 of 1138
to the owners of T2 - please tell me if this [T2] has custom aspect ratio options like changing the horizontal [x-axis] / vertical position [y-axis] / size [ Hsize,Vsize ] of the image on the fly ? Olympus eye-trek series have that feature but regd. T2 if anyone can verify ?
post #497 of 1138
Hello question! I want to use t2 and my 42 inc 2d led tv at the same time. (Playing a game on the t2 and the tv at the same time)

Which switch models are you using? I wish to buy one that guaranteed to work.
Thank you in advance.
Edited by babajaga85 - 11/26/12 at 12:26pm
post #498 of 1138
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Originally Posted by vaktmestern View Post

Try that epic mickey 2 in 3D best 3D game i ever seen eek.gif looks like ur inside a disney cartoon an demo up on xbox live stunning use of 3D
darbee is better than that i exspected was sceptical vs it but then i read more n more user that loved it n pictures of what it did. and finally john here convinced me earlyer with that sharpness comment i knew it was for me smile.gif

i have been research about darbee and now about 80% that i gonna buy it but i'd like to hear more from you , what you think so far of darbee with Hmz-t2
post #499 of 1138
Yeh no problem been using the darbee with it for a few days and its working like a charm. U do see more a effect on games on the T2 using it than movies. Sharper visuals ,
clearer backgrounds n texstures on games. xbox 360 dash looks razor sharp more details on peoples avatars Ion the clothes I think its a good upgrade to a T2 as long as the darbee is set at 40 to 60 percent -

On movies its has a good effect makes small details sharper like grass on a field or pores on people faces stand more out.

Get one try it and sell it if you dont fancy it but i think you will tho-
post #500 of 1138
Hey guys, this is just an update about orders from my website www.blazin3D.com

We are pretty much caught up on all orders, so new orders won't take so long to process and make, about 2-3 weeks if even that. I am very sorry I can't email all customers when their products were shipped, it is just so darn many, literally was 1,000's before.eek.gif

Many have bought the Pitch Black light blocker and forehead pad for the HMZ-T1 and using it for your T2. Yes, that works but the forehead pad was designed for the T1 and don't fit the T2 so great. And the light blocker is a bit big so we are going to design a new pitch black and forhead pad soon for the T2.



We have a few more ideas also, but need your feedback before we proceed.

1. A protective storage bag to hold your HMZ - advantage would be keeping it protected away from dust and scratches and made to fit the HMZ perfectly.

2. A new pitch black for the T2, we need your opinion on a new forhead pad though you guys think would work best. Photos of you using a sponge would help.

3. A full front face cover pad with lens protectors - advantage would be while using the HMZ the front face pad rest around your eyes and on your cheaks making it more comfortable in theory







My idea for the front face cover pad would be a soft cushion that is in the shape of the HMZ's whole viewing side and would cover the entire area. Of course 2 rectangles would be cut out for the lenses. In theory, I have yet to test this more but should provide more comfort and less light to enter disturbing viewing.

The HMZ-T2 is almost perfect, much better fit and full screen viewing with NO blurry edges. But with a few comfort mods it's even better and can be worn for hours with comfort!

Give us your input on what you think about the items listed above and if enough are interested we shall proceed.
post #501 of 1138
Really like option 3 that would go well down with the users.
post #502 of 1138
Yes, it's hard to design and do but I think it would help much also. It would include lens protectors also.

We will also be selling HMZ-T2's for those that want them on our site soon. Price should be around $1,000 but not sure, gotta calculate shipping. Won't include pads or light blocker though.
post #503 of 1138
Hello question! I want to use t2 and my 42 inc 2d led tv at the same time. (Playing a game on the t2 and the tv at the same time)

Which switch models are you using? I wish to buy one that guaranteed to work.
Thank you in advance.
post #504 of 1138
baba, I am not sure but in this thread others have mentioned about it so may wanna check. smile.gif
post #505 of 1138
i love the sound of the option 1 bravia3d
i have a cat in the house so kinda hairs and dust eveywhere so now i have to try to put back in the box everytime i don't use t2
post #506 of 1138
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Originally Posted by ancjob View Post

to the owners of T2 - please tell me if this [T2] has custom aspect ratio options like changing the horizontal [x-axis] / vertical position [y-axis] / size [ Hsize,Vsize ] of the image on the fly ? Olympus eye-trek series have that feature but regd. T2 if anyone can verify ?
Nope, can't be done. It only has overscan options.
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Originally Posted by nikonf5 View Post

Awesome, thanks for the prompt replies.
One more question.
Does anyone know whether there is some multiple key-press options for entering a service menu or some other hidden option that was discovered on the t1 that is also present on this model ?
Thanks.

Hm, not sure if the service menu has been discovered yet.
post #507 of 1138
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Originally Posted by bravia3D View Post

My idea for the front face cover pad would be a soft cushion that is in the shape of the HMZ's whole viewing side and would cover the entire area. Of course 2 rectangles would be cut out for the lenses.

I am not sure how that will feel for glass wearers.It might put pressure on our glass frame.....
post #508 of 1138
It may unless I make it thin, I'll have to do some test
post #509 of 1138
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Originally Posted by Mickice View Post

Nope, can't be done. It only has overscan options.
Hm, not sure if the service menu has been discovered yet.

thanks for the reply ! Mickice
So image controls to completely control the way image is positioned or it's size adjustments are missing - too bad eye treks had those niche options , Ah huge price but T2 still needs work mad.gif

SMD seems better option price-wise but they have stopped taking orders and are struggling to keep their business afloat !

Had it NOT been for 3D - i'd have tried glasstrons or even eye treks.

For a consumer HMD with OLED and latest 3D support - T1/T2 seem the only choices !
T1 sill retailing for usd$700 on ebay - so i am thinking what to do ?


Has T2 really improved on the 'optics' or is it more or less ' the old wine in a new bottle ' ?
Edited by ancjob - 11/27/12 at 2:43am
post #510 of 1138
The optics are a bit improved over the T1 version. And what's better is you get a full screen view with no blurry edges. Trust me when I say.. The HMZ-T2 is the BEST HMD on the market for now. The SMD was trash, I had bought 2 and they were horrible. And Silicons customer service was even worse. It is no wonder they stopped taking orders and having so much trouble.

Those waiting on the optimus rift saying it will be so much better won't be happy, it will be for GAMES not 3D movies. It is made for a full immersive game experience and won't even work with all games, it is NOT designed for movies in mind. The games will need to be designed for it to work which is why they have dev versions going out now.
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