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post #661 of 1138
Maybe your lenses are dirty?
post #662 of 1138
If you use a pure white background, you can see that 5% of each side of the image is darker than the rest.

I have tried to make an illustration, but it is quite poor tongue.gif

post #663 of 1138
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Originally Posted by Mickice View Post

Maybe your lenses are dirty?

I clean them after each use with a lens-pen designed for it, so i guess that's not where the problem is. My guesses are chromatic abberation, or some other optical effect, as is the same for both the left and right eye. On white background it shows as a brownish color, but on grey background it is more of a dim/darker character.
post #664 of 1138
wooo from the pic you posted.. thats not normal man. go to exchange new one if you just bought it .
post #665 of 1138
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Originally Posted by jommy999 View Post

wooo from the pic you posted.. thats not normal man. go to exchange new one if you just bought it .

Thankfully I have a 2-year warranty + 5-year extended complaint warranty. So i guess it won't be a problem to get an new unit. Bought it one week ago.


So you have a completely uniform picture?
post #666 of 1138
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Originally Posted by dorffy View Post

Thankfully I have a 2-year warranty + 5-year extended complaint warranty. So i guess it won't be a problem to get an new unit. Bought it one week ago.

yes but if you just bought it then you can just exchange new one with in a month , no need to go through warranty process. good luck .

edit : yes i have never seen anything like you show in the picture at all . mine all screen will be all white ( with oled screen , white even look pure white than normal lcd )
Edited by jommy999 - 12/21/12 at 3:05pm
post #667 of 1138
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Originally Posted by jommy999 View Post

btw vaktmestern , Thanks for the Darbee info . i bought it and loving it so much . it make T2 look like run on 1080p screen no kidding. biggrin.gif

cool.gif Hope more users try it out on they T2s fantastic device
post #668 of 1138
cool.gif dobble post
post #669 of 1138
yes i am highly recommended Darbee or Darblet to everyone . the unit itself does look cheap but don't let the look fool you , it does exactly like what the website say .
i was skeptical at first but vaktmestern says it work well with T2 therefore i have done more research about the unit and i bought it. it work like magic both game and movie ( Darbee setting : i end up using Game mode 65% with all bluray and at 70% with game and animation )

Darbee forum topic
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet

Darbee main site
http://darbeevision.com/
post #670 of 1138
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Originally Posted by jommy999 View Post

yes i am highly recommended Darbee or Darblet to everyone . the unit itself does look cheap but don't let the look fool you , it does exactly like what the website say .
i was skeptical at first but vaktmestern says it work well with T2 therefore i have done more research about the unit and i bought it. it work like magic both game and movie ( Darbee setting : i end up using Game mode 65% with all bluray and at 70% with game and animation )
Darbee forum topic
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet
Darbee main site
http://darbeevision.com/

Yeh, 65 i was using aswell sharpend up the picture really well cool.gif
post #671 of 1138
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Originally Posted by jommy999 View Post

1. the unit is easy out of focus therefore even with 2mph . you need to adjust straps very very tight to be able to keep it at the same place. ( your head movement will make the screen itself shaky too, its like you sit in a cinema and when you move you head the whole screen cinema is moving with you too ). i get carsick effect sometimes if i play game and moving my head too much .
2. after 3 hours ,the unit will have a message pop up telling you that you have been using it for 3 hours and you want to keep it on or turn it off ( i am normally using it about 1-5 hrs ) so the eye strain depend on the person i guess .
3. the effect of the screen won't make you feel like you look at the screen 2 inches away from you face. you can move your eyes look left and right or top and down ,it simulate and make you feel like you sit at the back row in the cinema.
thanks 4 that. i find it hard to be perfectly still for long periods so not sure how i would do with this unit.
no ps3, no blu-ray
no pc gaming rig
if i already had these I think I would buy this unit as there are a few 2nd handers for a good price
ive only got the xbox and a MacBookPro.

last question:

does playing First Person Shooting games with the HMZ improve your ability to play with the larger scale of everything ?
i only ask cause when i used to play on a projector i got better for some reason.

ive always been more interested in larger field of view gaming though, have yet to go down that route due to needing good pc rig and multiple monitors, but now that the Oculus is gaining momentum I may just be patient and see what next year has for us.

cheers again
post #672 of 1138
Hi
While i got my demo courtesy my friend - i thing i find it tough is the way to mount it on my head - the most difficult part !
I had to try to get myself a perfect fit but it kept sliding off with slight head movement and i was scared of tightening the straps lest they 'd break to make my friend 'loose' his head over!
Finally i 'd to hold it in my hands while watching the screens inside So gave up the phantom to try with light-shield on.
display issues - no , mount issues - yes - horrible design for mounting on the head.

may be there is a tutorial somewhere to teach how to properly mount this thing without it sliding down at all over the nose-bridge! - any help ? mad.gif
post #673 of 1138
It has to be tighter on your head so it don't move around. And you could use a set of my cushion pads which really help more.
I use my cushion pads daily to use the T2 and watch movies and truly love it.
post #674 of 1138
Thats the main problem really, if u want the T2 to fit tight u need 2 adjust the straps firmly to prevent it sliding down cool.gif, But again that puts loads off pressure on the rear rubber strap making it streach n loose its rubber band stiffnes and when u add that the front head pad gets softer with time u end up with a T2 that will become 2 loose on the head..

Urge u all to keep a good eye on the rear strap for signs of aging , maybe even lubricate it to make it last longer, i would have keept my to T2s if the first unit dindt show aging signs and small cracks on the rear head band
The front head pad getting softer with time is another issue really not shure if there a way to prevent that, other than a head strap perhaps? but that not a good option really of the up n down adjustment of the front pad on the T2 gets off its position with a top strap mounted.
post #675 of 1138
@3Dtechno clearly you need to get the unit set up right first , it took me few days to get it to my liking , its not something that you put it on adjust few mins and its perfect . it take a little time for the first time use
i am using Bravia cushion pads since T1 and i am waiting to get a limited edition ( White one ) and light blocker delivery for my T2 ( i am saying this before many times and say it again that you need to get mods straps and dark room or light blocker properly to achieve what T2 suppose to do )

welcome back Bravia3D , how was your holiday ? i assume it was your holiday when you went out of town.

btw I hope i get your items delivery tomorrow , it arrived my local depot since Friday but they don't delivery on Saturday so a bit of luck i might get it by tomorrow which it gonna be nice Christmas presents for me. Thank you biggrin.gif

Happy Christmas everyone !
post #676 of 1138
I just watched bluray- 3D Resident Evil Retribution today wink.gif Great 3D ( native 3d with Red Epic camera was used ) and Great movie ( i am a resident evil fan so its great for me but my freind hate it lol )

for die hard Resident Evil fan , you have to watch it as Leon and Ada wong from the game are appear in this movie too eek.gif
post #677 of 1138
Hi! I'm new at this forum and joined mainly because of this thread. I've recently ordered a used pair of these hmz-t2 and therefore I have a couple of questions.

1. Do you think the warranty is intact even though I bought it from another person via the internet and he has lost the receipt(he bought it at webbhallen.se)? I think that he has not registered it at the sony website, so if I do then maybe I might to get the warranty? confused.gif

2. I have got a chair that is similar to the one in Sony's commercial. Do you think that I still could use the comfort pads that bravia3D sells? If so, and this is directed to bravia3D: Is it possible to get the forehead pad in the comfort pad set? Since I mainly will be laying backwards when using it and all of its weight will be on my forehead I think it will be necessary.

3. I know that nvidia GPU:s has support for this, but does anyone know whether intel integrated graphics( I've got a windows slate with intel gma hd graphics) also supports it?(with "this" I mean 3D movies)

Thanks in advance for any answers! I am so happy to have found this thread! biggrin.gif
post #678 of 1138
Finally got the offer from my friend for T2- guess he does NOT like it either.
Now NOT sure i'd grab the offer .

I am trying to recall the exp. with this device.
Tunnel vision [very small exit ppl] with difficult casing mount - 'd i really enjoy 3D rips and blu-rays at all given the 'cons' of this
I have the cinemizer plus [FOV 32] and though exp. of 3D is NOT immersive but it's front heavy with weight on my nose-bridge though T2 'd not put weight on nose-bridge [Great!] but the tunnel vision with difficult mount seem to be the deal breaker - i guess i wait for T3 instead - my new year resolution smile.gif

it's indeed difficult situation for me to let go of T2 [the offer ]mad.gif
I do not mind tunnel vision but the casing is real frustrating fior me - if the Sony 'd change the casing totally - i'd be happy!

frankly in two minds as of now.
post #679 of 1138
Prices has dropped here on the t2, temting again but im going to wait n see if a T3 will ever come out cool.gif
post #680 of 1138
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Originally Posted by vaktmestern View Post

Prices has dropped here on the t2, temting again but im going to wait n see if a T3 will ever come out cool.gif

T3 may be there in 2013 if at all but i doubt there will be any changes, as even the prototype design with tracker , camera has the same casing .mad.gif
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1429066/sony-to-show-off-hmz-t2-prototype-with-head-tracking-and-pass-through-ar

BTW - How much is HMZ-T2 now in usd$ for u ?
post #681 of 1138
1200usd cool.gif dropped down from 1354usd bet that exspensive in us but not so here
post #682 of 1138
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Originally Posted by vaktmestern View Post

1200usd cool.gif dropped down from 1354usd bet that exspensive in us but not so here
where?

Finally - after a lot of thinking - i took the plunge and got the unit - HMZ-T2 for a great deal!
So i am now the owner of HMZ-T2
Now i have to start playing with this and learning what it has in store for me - the 5 hrs demo was nothing now i can really work as an owner and learn.
lemme see what it can do for me smile.gif
will keep u guys posted
post #683 of 1138
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by vaktmestern View Post

1200usd cool.gif dropped down from 1354usd bet that exspensive in us but not so here

Get a brand new one on ebay from Japan for 950-1000USD including shipping.
post #684 of 1138
What a failure HMZ serie, at last now they have OLED 3D HD microdisplays and then they put it on an heavy ancient VR HMD helmet design of 30 years ago.
Total wasted backward design, T2 still the same retarded design cutoff the headphone only, fire the designer asap!

Why not use/improve one of these 10yrs old design, its lighter and comfortable and angle adjustable:
http://ivanpoupyrev.com/e-library/Workshops_newsletters/headsets/headsets.htm
Sony Glasstron PLM-A55:

Olympus Eye-Trek FMD-100:

Cannon GT270:

HMDs: http://www.stereo3d.com/hmd.htm

btw on ebay new T2 one usd 939 :http://www.ebay.nl/itm/FREE-SHIP-New-Sony-HMZ-T2-Personal-3D-Viewer-Head-Mount-Display-from-Japan-/271119157298?pt=US_Video_Glasses&hash=item3f1ff60832

in europe new ones T2 831,69: http://www.factoryprices.nl/product_info.php?products_id=135848

Will wait for a total improved redesigned T3 if they learned their lessons!
post #685 of 1138
BREAKING SONY HMZ SERIES LINEUP!
From the HMZ top designer comes:
T3:

T4:

T5:

T6:


Still he don't know how to get rid of the frontweight!
post #686 of 1138
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Originally Posted by iBrad View Post

BREAKING SONY HMZ SERIES LINEUP!
From the HMZ top designer comes:
T3:

T4:

T5:

T6:

Still he don't know how to get rid of the frontweight!

But do we have any choice in really nice consumer HMDs as of now ?No one is stepping into HMD fad forget LG,Samsung etc as no one interested .
Currently JMZ-T2 is undisputed with whatever it's imperfections.

Even i thought a lot abt the 'Weight' and other imperfections before taking the plunge but Sony T2 had it's way so ended up getting up smile.gif
It's sad whoever designed lineup are complete newbies in HMD tech. , do not know a thing about "Ergonomic" design at all. mad.gif

May be T3 with usd$1200 ot T4 with 1400usd or T5 with usd$1800 or T6 with usd$2000..........T7 [>usd$2000]
By the time they perfected hmz lineup it'd well be out of consumer pricing market into the professional ones [running into several thousand usds]
post #687 of 1138
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Originally Posted by 3Dtechno View Post

But do we have any choice in really nice consumer HMDs as of now ?No one is stepping into HMD fad forget LG,Samsung etc as no one interested .
Currently JMZ-T2 is undisputed with whatever it's imperfections.
Even i thought a lot abt the 'Weight' and other imperfections before taking the plunge but Sony T2 had it's way so ended up getting up smile.gif
It's sad whoever designed lineup are complete newbies in HMD tech. , do not know a thing about "Ergonomic" design at all. mad.gif
May be T3 with usd$1200 ot T4 with 1400usd or T5 with usd$1800 or T6 with usd$2000..........T7 [>usd$2000]
By the time they perfected hmz lineup it'd well be out of consumer pricing market into the professional ones [running into several thousand usds]
Yes, you are totally correct!
This SONY T2 is the best cheapest 3D consumer HMD available at this moment and there is no alternative.
T2 is just a quick "small update" to earn back the investment costs of T1.
I think T3 will be totally redesigned back as the former glasstron types.

I think there is still market for these 2D/3D videoglasses and the "cheap low res" chinese variants of will properly upgrades within 10yrs to 3D hi-res.

Epson Moverio BT-100, "expensive" crap stand alone android only, mid res 3D videoglasses with projection LCD!, is the only other brand trying to step in.

Will see if T3 over 3yrs got a properly comfortable full hd redesign!, will get a T2 if the price comes around 500 USD.
Edited by iBrad - 12/25/12 at 3:03am
post #688 of 1138
Eventually HMD's will get smaller and smaller.. But smaller may not always be better, just look at Silicon Micros ST1080.. That thing is a piece of crap.
post #689 of 1138
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Originally Posted by iBrad View Post

Yes, you are totally correct!
This SONY T2 is the best cheapest 3D consumer HMD available at this moment and there is no alternative.
T2 is just a quick "small update" to earn back the investment costs of T1.
I think T3 will be totally redesigned back as the former glasstron types.
I think there is still market for these 2D/3D videoglasses and the "cheap low res" chinese variants of will properly upgrades within 10yrs to 3D hi-res.
Epson Moverio BT-100, "expensive" crap stand alone android only, mid res 3D videoglasses with projection LCD!, is the only other brand trying to step in.
Will see if T3 over 3yrs got a properly comfortable full hd redesign!, will get a T2 if the price comes around 500 USD.

My greeting to all on Christmas

I have been experimenting with T2 for quite sometime now
Have mastered the art of mounting it on - once it's mounted slightly tight i does not fall off / slide but yes the optics 'd be improved as the viewing angle in VERY small , need to look right on to get the screen clear from edge to edge so sweet spot is definitely there and [very small] / takes some patience to achieve.
Being front heavy - it puts pressure on the forehead so frequent breaks are ok
Configured this to work with my nvidia laptop after downloading the nvidia 310.33 win 7 64 bit driver to play the blu-ray iso via powerdvd and it worked great after some hiccups [driver issues]
3d is quite good but the pop factor is not that apparent as in the shutter type 3D led TV technology .
But given the ergonomic issues - for diehard 3D fans - 40-65' inchers 3D led TVs will be better anytime [active shutter tech].
But the lack of good 3D content is still an issue for major investment in large 3D TVs for me atm.


over all - i am happy with this device

pros :
portable ,great display quality
2D and 3D work great [pop factor not so good]
private entertainment

cons
already ppl know it's imperfections

suggestions :
Make it 1080p and change form-factor to make it light and improve optics to eliminate "Sweet spot", make it usb powered

Final word :
HMZ-T2 rules , forget smd st1080 , moverio bt-100 etc this device is the best - if they decimate the imperfections [already discussed] then this will be the 'Killer HMD'
Now i do not have to run after every new HMD in the market and wait for T3 with improvements done as suggested till then T2 is a nice companion.
Time to put my old school HMDs to auction on ebay and recover some money i'd invested a long time ago smile.gif

cheers to all
post #690 of 1138
What a love/hate relationship the hmz is!biggrin.gif
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