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post #871 of 1040
Maybe it would have worked better with some black masking tape instead...

Anyway, thanks for the pics and description.
post #872 of 1040
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Originally Posted by DG25 View Post

Maybe it would have worked better with some black masking tape instead...

Anyway, thanks for the pics and description.

It's possible, worth a try anyways. Are you planning on using it?

I've noticed one more thing about tunnel-vision. It only affects the sides. The top and bottom parts don't have any glare, but theres a curve of light either to the right or the left of each eye (or both), and usually one is stronger than the other. I first noticed this while I still had everything disassembled, so I made sure to repaint the inside edges several times. The glare was still there.

What makes this more interesting is that the side with the stronger glare depends on where you have the lens slider positioned. If you flip it all the way to the left, you can block out one side of it, and the same for the right. Chances are you have the slider somewhere near the middle, so you see both sides.

This leads me to believe it's not about the edges of the lenses being exposed, but about the way your field-of-view is blocked by the plastic. On the top and bottom, it seems to block any glare, but not on the sides. I'm going to try adding something to slightly restrict my left/right view to see if that blocks out the glare without blocking out the edges of the screens.
post #873 of 1040
New problem...dead pixel on right side. Emailed seller about exchanging it. How common is this if I go through the wait of getting a new replacement? Is there a default acceptability with these when it comes to dead pixels?
post #874 of 1040
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Originally Posted by chibiracer View Post

It's possible, worth a try anyways. Are you planning on using it?.
First i plan reducing the tunnel vision view. If successful, i'll try some comfort mods. The tunnel vision is what bothers me the most now, because it kinda ruins the immersion.
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Originally Posted by chibiracer View Post

I've noticed one more thing about tunnel-vision. It only affects the sides. The top and bottom parts don't have any glare,
Yes, same here. I use the default position of the sliders (middle) and only the sides suffer. My impression is that the light is reflected by the plastic rim that rises 1-2mm over the lens surface, but i might be wrong. When you painted the lens, didn't you also covered a bit from the visible lens, like this?

Edited by DG25 - 2/18/13 at 2:43pm
post #875 of 1040
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Originally Posted by DG25 View Post

Yes, same here. I us the default position of the sliders (middle) and only the sides suffer. My impression is the the light is reflected by the plastic rim that rises 1-2mm over the lens surface, but i might be wrong. When you painted the lens, didn't you cover a bit from the visible lens, like this?

Hmm, I hadn't considered that the inside of the plastic might be bouncing light back.

No, I didn't paint any of the visible lens. The edges have a rougher, matte texture that I felt safe painting over, but I didn't want to risk ending up with a visible smudge or covering the screen. But if you're planning to use tape, and as long as the adhesive doesn't leave any residue, I suppose you could try different positions to see what works.
post #876 of 1040
With my pixel issue the vendor referred me to Sony's instruction manual:

Although OLED panels are produced using extremely high- precision manufacturing technologies, in some cases pixels may be permanently black or lit in red, blue, or green. This does not indicate system damage.

Well I am frustrated with the red one I have because I can't stop focusing on it. Having to deal with this is BS!
post #877 of 1040
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Originally Posted by jojopet View Post

With my pixel issue the vendor referred me to Sony's instruction manual:

Although OLED panels are produced using extremely high- precision manufacturing technologies, in some cases pixels may be permanently black or lit in red, blue, or green. This does not indicate system damage.

Well I am frustrated with the red one I have because I can't stop focusing on it. Having to deal with this is BS!

That sucks! I have heard of other manufacturers saying 1 or 2 dead pixels is an acceptable defect (I think it was Nintendo's policy on the DS screen). But ignoring something like that is really difficult.

Have you tried contacting Sony? Maybe you'll get lucky. I checked their website site before importing the HMZ-T2 and they do honor warranties on products that came from other regions.
post #878 of 1040
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Originally Posted by jojopet View Post

With my pixel issue the vendor referred me to Sony's instruction manual:

Although OLED panels are produced using extremely high- precision manufacturing technologies, in some cases pixels may be permanently black or lit in red, blue, or green. This does not indicate system damage.

Well I am frustrated with the red one I have because I can't stop focusing on it. Having to deal with this is BS!

As last resort before you can return/exchange it, you can always try pixel jogger:
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fix dead stuck pixels improve PQ on Plasma LCD LED tv monitors etc.
keep playing repeat on for hours, check after few hrs, if problem is gone/fixed, improved PQ, else keep playing! Download HD:
Pixel Jogger 10min.mp4
http://www.sendspace.com/file/nypxl6
Pixel Jogger 60fps 10min.mp4
http://www.sendspace.com/file/59unmj

sample youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kxu-chASGg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhV_kfjEZb0

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1406663/pixel-jogger-break-in-improves-pq-plasma-lcd-led-tv-for-diy-users-only-w-disclaimer
Suppose OLED has fastest pixel responsetime, you can use the 60fps pixel jogger to let the pixel flikker at full 60Hz, maybe that will unlock to stuck pixel. (you'll need something to keep/bound that forehead rest (hidden) switch to keep the screen on, when hmz is not on the head).
Set contrast=max. and brightness=min., this will jog the pixels fully on and fully off.

Suggest to run pixel jogger 60fps for 8hrs, still red pixel stuck, then run the 30fps pixel jogger 8hrs etc. if after 24hrs pixel jogging doesn't solved it, then this is sure not be fixable by this method.

btw if you are still in the return period, you can return it and ask your money back.
Edited by iBrad - 2/19/13 at 2:56am
post #879 of 1040
I got it through Amazon USA. The company said they won't accept return over just 1 pixel as Sony wouldn't either (see manual). I can try the pixel jogger approach. The all out return will involve shipping back, with insurance, eating their shipping fee and 20% restocking fee. So basically it's $100 min. over 1 dead pixel. Unfortunately were stuck getting these from out of country, so if you have any option to buy one hands-on I'd do that. So FYI..it's almost order it and pray there's no issue like this.
post #880 of 1040
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Originally Posted by dislaire View Post

i don't know how to mod, i'm very new to this and won't risk to break a 1000$ device...For this price, we shouldn't need to mod for me, sony are really dumb( and i'm too for buying it).Wht advice can you give me? did you test blazin3d accessories?

I agree for the price it should be uncomfortable out of the box. But if you're stuck with it might as well make the best of it. I bought these items from amazon.
Inside replacement for welding helmet
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002AKIRG2/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Seat belt pads x3
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JKUMC6/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Note that I had to put the welding helmet part on backwards to get it to sit correctly but this thing is so super comfortable now. Doesn't sit on my nose and I only feel a slight pressure around my head like wearing a winter hat or something. You can still feel the weight on the front but leaning back or lying down can help that. Personally the weight has never been a problem for me. I also used zip ties to mount the welding helmet to the HMZ-T2 and I unscrewed the casing and popped out the forehead pad (Easy to do and replaceable). Only other thing I had to do was put two pieces of tape to keep the zip ties from slipping up or down. Here's some pics. Really recommend this mod! Any questions feel free to ask. I couldn't find anyone telling me exactly why to buy so I just dived in and figured someone would like a better idea at what to buy for this mod.





post #881 of 1040
Some good news from the Ps4 announcement as it seems that it will do 3D games at 1080p. One disappointment for me using the Ps3 was that 3D games were seriously downgraded in quality. Maybe by the time of its release we'll see a 1080 HMZ. Although Sony has said their shifting their focus from 3D to 4K, so maybe not.
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What's more, he said that stereoscopic 3D is not a focus for the new system, although it is 3D-capable.

"It's not a focus. But it does do it better. The basic capability is higher so more games will run at 1080p at 60 frames so it's an easier and better experience when you watch on 3D TV."
post #882 of 1040
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Originally Posted by stracenska View Post

Some good news from the Ps4 announcement as it seems that it will do 3D games at 1080p.

Have been following all the RSS feeds on the PS4 but havent heard anything mentioning 3D so where is your quote coming from ?

Not doubting its authenticity, just asking smile.gif
post #883 of 1040
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Originally Posted by nikonf5 View Post

Have been following all the RSS feeds on the PS4 but havent heard anything mentioning 3D so where is your quote coming from ?

Not doubting its authenticity, just asking smile.gif

http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/ps4-wont-support-4k-games-3d-taking-a-backseat-17693
post #884 of 1040
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by nikonf5 View Post

Have been following all the RSS feeds on the PS4 but havent heard anything mentioning 3D so where is your quote coming from ?

Not doubting its authenticity, just asking smile.gif

well the 3D situation with PS4 is a ****** one.
They said it will do Full HD 3D, but they also that they wont focus at 3D anymore.

I assume that we will see very few games with 3D stereo on PS4,
post #885 of 1040
Maybe they decided their marketing money are better spend in other direction, while keeping the 3D functionality intact.
post #886 of 1040
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DG25 View Post

Maybe they decided their marketing money are better spend in other direction, while keeping the 3D functionality intact.

They said they stopped pushing 3D because the Sony Hardware division stopped.
post #887 of 1040
Shifting focus does not mean they abandoned it. They just moved onto other new technologies, like 4k. And like with any new tech from a company, the marketing budget goes there.
post #888 of 1040
2bad if sony wont make a 1080p lighter unit cool.gif
post #889 of 1040
The best comfort mod I've seen yet that is from the HMZ-T1 thread:
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Originally Posted by dashkitusa View Post

Now the pictures













post #890 of 1040
Hoping Sony launches a 4k model soon.
post #891 of 1040
Where can we get a game pad/seat like the one pictured in the USA? That would really add to a great, simple VR setup.
post #892 of 1040
Sony is not giving up on 3D they don't want to talk about it now because the hype of 3D has worn off, all 3 new systems will do full 1080P 3D and will look incredible to the point that it will sell systems. A little bit of the problem is they don't see how to get extra revenue from 3D so whats the point for them. But with in a year or two it should be a game add on for $10-$20 for those that want it and it be on every big game. 3D is leaving beta stage and headed to viable profit making feature.
post #893 of 1040
Its very odd when people keep on saying 3D is dead.... when its not. Like all things technology... the industry can't singing about the same thing year after year. They need to excite us with new things... like 4K. If 3D was dead the industry would not bother adding 3D to their 4K sets.... yet as far as i can see a lot of 4K sets including sony support 3D.

When i was young.... a selling point was USB on TVS. Letting you play videos. Then they stopped raving about it and it was HDMI. Just because they stopped talking about it does not mean our TV's no longer have USB.....

And the industry clearly love 3D, and they can't work out why the general public is so slow with the uptake.

I envisage a future where glasses free TV's will create the depth.... combined with Holographic projections to create the fore=ground object or "Pop-out". That way it would be easier on our eyes.

Sadly the 3D moment was held back by several factors and the industry have their fair share of the blame.

1. Lack of content.
2. The manufactures stubbornness with making us pay £70 for a pair of 3D glasses when we know now generic £20 ones work just as well and in many cases better. I mean how did they expect us 3D enthusiasts to inspire and convience our friends and family members to join in with our 3D movies when we need £500 to fit the whole family with glasses? Ridiculous.
3. Manufactures not sticking to one glasses type and forcing us to buy only their brands.
4. PS3 and Xbox360 let down 3D because they are just not powerful enoght to render HD 3D at a good frame rate.

Anyway long live 3D, its only going to get better from this point, 4K will make passive 3D amazing and HD. New generation consoles hopefully will be powerful enough to show us true HD 3D gaming and how immerse it can be. Products like Oculous rift will send 3D gaming thru the gaming community like wild fire.

The future for 3D is gonna be amazing.

Fingers crossed.
post #894 of 1040
Hello friends,
I just received this amazing product from a Japanese friend, and which unfortunately reads 100v ac IN. But in my country 220 - 240 V ac is used.
Please suggest whether I can go ahead and plug it into 220v or do I have use a transformer.
post #895 of 1040
If you had read the thread u would have seen its a universal plug meaning ur good to go. No transformer needed. Enjoy
post #896 of 1040
Yes, it has an universal PSU inside, so it works without a transformer.
post #897 of 1040
Asked this in the T1 thread and didn't get a response, so I'll ask here. Has anyone gotten HDMI control to work with the PS3? I can't get it to work which I find odd considering they're both Sony products.
It's simple to test for those using a PS3. While watching a movie see if you can control playback using the HMZ menu buttons. "HDMI Control" must be turned on.
post #898 of 1040
I have used it on AVI files watched on my PS3. Use it while watching and hold button down longer.
post #899 of 1040
The reason u cant controll ur ps3 is that the ps3 only has a 1.3 hdmi port .. cool.gif I controlled my 3D BD player with the hmz-t2 as the 2 is 1.4 hdmi units.
post #900 of 1040
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Originally Posted by jojopet View Post

I have used it on AVI files watched on my PS3. Use it while watching and hold button down longer.

Interesting, okay, I'll try holding it down longer.
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