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post #1 of 11
8/31/12 at 8:32am
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Hello all,
I am new to this forum and am in the process of upgrading my home theater system.

My room is 11 x 17 that connects to an open eat in kitchen 11x15 with 8' drywall ceilings.

I have decided on the Denon AVR2313CI (not sure if I should upgrade to the AVR3313CI).

Front (pair) Ascend HTM-200 SE
Center Ascend HTM-200 SE Center
Surround (4) Ascend HTM-200
Subwoofer outlaw LFM-1 EX Subwoofer

Would anyone have any comments/suggestions?

I watch a lot of blueray movies, and music off HD Dish 701 receiver.

Cheers!
Edited by roadrunner255 - 8/31/12 at 8:59am
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post #2 of 11
8/31/12 at 3:21pm
Welcome to AVS.

Have you spoken to David or anyone else at Ascend about your proposed setup? If not then you should give them a call as they're extremely helpful. I own various Ascend speakers but have only heard the 200s in surround duty. I thought there was an official "owner's thread" here on AVS but I can't seem to find it. I have heard good things about Outlaw subs but no firsthand experience, and I'm a very happy Denon owner.
Edited by holt7153 - 8/31/12 at 3:27pm
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post #3 of 11
8/31/12 at 4:46pm
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Thanks, I spoke to a female, cant remember her name. She seemed knowledgeable, 3rd person that told me to try 5 speakers first then should I decide later to go with 2 more I can.

I believe I will be going with the Sierra for the front 3, and 170' for the 2 rear.

My brother likes his Velodyne, so I am checking out the Velodyne EQ-Max for a cu ft of under 3300.

So choices for the sub are Rythmik FV15 (pricey), Velodyne EQ-Max 15, or outlaw LFM-1 EX

I am looking for suggestions/comments, since I have not purchased electronics for about 12 years.

Cheers!
Edited by roadrunner255 - 9/1/12 at 5:59am
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post #4 of 11
9/1/12 at 7:27am
I have the EX sub. At it's current sale price of $600, it's the best all around performer there is. The Rythmik FV15 is a better performer, no doubt. But you can buy two EXs for the price of one FV15, and dual subs offer an advantage over one sub in terms of smoother in room frequency response, and better bass across a wider area of the room. Not to mention that even one EX should have more than enough overall output for your room. If you want to spend more money, I'd probably go with Ascend Acoustics CMT's across the front and one EX, unless you are a basshead smile.gif

Audioholics reviewed both the Velodyne EQ-Max 15 and the Outlaw EX, and rate the EX as a better overall performer and better value. The EX performs better at under 40hz, so you are better off going with it for HT usage; you'll get better impact from the low frequency bass. Here are the reviews:

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/subwoofers/eq-max-15
http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/subwoofers/lfm-1-ex-review

I'd also recommend putting your money into better Ascend speakers or going with dual subs over getting the AVR3313. You'll get more bang for your buck that way. You may or may not notice any difference with the higher level receiver.
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post #5 of 11
9/1/12 at 7:50am
Sounds like you spoke with Dina, and I agree as well that Sierra-1s or 340s might be a better choice up front. Either the 170s or 200s should be fine for surrounds, with the 200s being less deep (if that matters). In terms of subs, many around here would agree that there are better values than Velodyne.
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post #6 of 11
9/1/12 at 9:03am
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Thanks all, I have space limitations for the front 3, the 340' would be to high.

Also the EX dimensions are to large to fit in entertainment center (right front corner). I would need to put it in the rear right (pref) or left corners, hope that is not a listening issue.

Room is a rectangle 11' wide by 19' long, with an open eatin kitchen connected.

see diagram

11x18 eat in kitchen
Code:
 | entry -------------|
 |         TV receiver|
 |                    |
 |  X                 |4' window
 |  X                 |
 |  X 7' couch        |
 |  X                 |
 |  X                 |
 |                    |
 |                    |
 |                    |
 |   X   recliner X   |
 |  (Me)          sub |
 ------------------------
 Brick wall and Fireplace

Edited by roadrunner255 - 9/1/12 at 9:17am
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post #7 of 11
9/1/12 at 2:54pm
Yeah. You don't want to put the EX in an entertainment center anyway. Only a sealed sub or a front-firing ported sub would work in that situation (assuming there is enough ventilation for the amplifier to cool).

Rear of the room in a corner should be fine, other than you may "notice" where the bass is coming from a little bit. Try both and see which corner works best.
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post #8 of 11
9/1/12 at 2:56pm
Forgot to mention. CBM-170s for front L/R and then the 340 for the center would still be a step up, if that will fit.
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post #9 of 11
9/2/12 at 9:49am
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Thanks all, went with the Outlaw EX sub.

Question about sub cable I estimate the distance to be 35', the next size up is 50'.

My understanding is there is no sign. signal loss, can I go with the 50' to be sure or stay with the 35'?


Thanks again all great site!

Cheers!
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post #10 of 11
9/2/12 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by roadrunner255 View Post

Thanks all, went with the Outlaw EX sub.
Question about sub cable I estimate the distance to be 35', the next size up is 50'.
My understanding is there is no sign. signal loss, can I go with the 50' to be sure or stay with the 35'?
Thanks again all great site!
Cheers!

Might depend on the quality of the cable. Sounds like a good question for the AVS subwoofer forum.
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post #11 of 11
9/2/12 at 10:44am
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There were multiple posts that answered my question.

Thanks!
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