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post #271 of 782
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Originally Posted by dagameballa View Post

its a 123" vutec britewhite..and I sit about 10 feet back..I see this pj lighting up a 140" easily in 3d dynamic..3d dynamic was so bright. the 3 options for 3d color wise are, cinema, thx and dynamic..dynamic was holy s&*% bright..I didnt try cinema..once I saw how amazing and perfectly bright thx mode was. I stopped there.

Thanks,  with you saying how brite 3d was I was curious as to the size of your screen

What is the gain on the britewhite?

 

Do you think I would have any trouble lighting up a Seymour CenterstageXD 115'' diagonal, 1.2 gain white screen? In 3d?

Thanks.

post #272 of 782
lol no..not at all..and it's a 1.3 gain..I can honestly say that thx mode in 2d..was not as bright as dynamic in 3d..probably dynamic 3d was a couple hundred lumens brighter. I could not leave dynamic 3d on..my eyes hurt immediately..as my cousin would say bright enough I was seeing stars.
post #273 of 782

^^^ Thanks!

post #274 of 782
I might proceed with caution with the 5020.

I just took delivery of a 3020 this past saturday, and after less than 3 hours of use it has suffered from a pinkish/purplish dust blob at least a few pixels across (very noticeable in white/light background)....

Epson is shipping me a new one as we speak.

Hope this isn't a trend, I was worried about the non-sealed light path....

Otherwise picture is quite good for a $1,500 projector. Watched Madagascar 3d blu-ray and I could not detect any visible crosstalk/ghosting.
post #275 of 782
Oh man..thats not good..yep I have thought about that too..but I had the 3010 for around 5 months..but basically a new one every month and never had a dust blob.
post #276 of 782
I got my focus issues squared away, really loving this projector. I also went into the service menu to start tweaking the iris but the values are already much lower by default over the HW30 so I'm not sure how much wiggle room we have.
post #277 of 782
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Originally Posted by jsil View Post

dagameballa,
Did you see any flickering when using 3D glasses.

If you are really picky about this I'd wait for zombie10k's impressions in the shootout thread. I believe he says he sees flicker on the HW30/50 and the 5010 but he said had he not had the Benq W7000 DLP that he may not have noticed.
post #278 of 782
Thats probably a good idea..I have seen tons and tons of 3d material..but I am no pro! just to my eyes..I see no flicker...but the 5020's 3d is much cleaner than the 5010. wink.gif...ZOMBIE definately has way more knowledge than I do! I trust his word!!!!!
post #279 of 782
Seeing flicker is a personal perceptual issue, just because one person see's it does not mean the guy sitting next to him will.

Now this does not mean that certain displays cannot be more likely to induce it for those that are more susceptible.

Jason
post #280 of 782
haha...cousins back to back!
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post #282 of 782
Please ignore review for now, until complete, it has a lot of copy/paste from AE8000! example:
Brightness: Manufacturer claim: 2400 lumens, 2178 measured max, 602 lumens, post
post #283 of 782
dagameballa,
What about the color uniformity issue is it still there?.
post #284 of 782
I exchanged the pj last night..the 2nd one has perfect uniformity! this pj, and I'm not making a purchase justification, really is a gem. everything about it. Has to be best bang for the buck.
post #285 of 782
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Originally Posted by gnolivos View Post

Please ignore review for now, until complete, it has a lot of copy/paste from AE8000! example:
Brightness: Manufacturer claim: 2400 lumens, 2178 measured max, 602 lumens, post

dont forget the 500,000 contrast ratio.. lol
post #286 of 782
I'm trying to decided which one to get the Epson 5020 or Benq W7000. I'm looking at 3D.
post #287 of 782
I'm sure you will be happy with either of those choices!
post #288 of 782
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Originally Posted by dagameballa View Post

dont forget the 500,000 contrast ratio.. lol

Another error in the review. No sharpness pic for the 5020, just two for the ae8000.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/epson/home-cinema-5020/performance.php#sharp
post #289 of 782
Here's PC's review of the Epson 5020. They loved it too!


http://www.projectorcentral.com/epson_5020UBe_home_theater_projector_review.htm
post #290 of 782
Does the 5020 have any masking support and if so can someone give some detail? Thanks!
post #291 of 782
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Originally Posted by Deja Vu View Post

Here's PC's review of the Epson 5020. They loved it too!
http://www.projectorcentral.com/epson_5020UBe_home_theater_projector_review.htm

Pulled the trigger on the 5020UBe based on Art's and this review (and everyone's useful feedback!). Thank you. Can't wait! biggrin.gif
Hope the lag is indeed 50ms is all I can say.
Edited by Squuiid - 11/1/12 at 5:06pm
post #292 of 782
You won't be dissaponted! congrats!
post #293 of 782
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Originally Posted by dagameballa View Post

You won't be dissaponted! congrats!
Are you able to tweak any of the brightness,contrast and other basic picture settings while in 3D mode? I'm a little concerned about the Dynamic modes brightness and was curious if you can turn down some of the settings while in the 3D mode.
post #294 of 782
I was checking out scenes I knew had slight ghosting on the 5010 and horrible on the 3010 as I'm typing this..I have messed with 3d brightness..3d depth and screen size adjustments..I found the 3d depth best on zero..screen size on 160" even though mine is a 123" and 3d brightness on high exhibits the most minor ghosting on the toughest scenes..I pause the movie when i see ghosting..mess with the settings till it goes away...all the scenes so far with 3d mode in bright...the minor amount of ghosting that is there..goes away in the medium setting. and thx 3d mode has full cms control available, nothing is greyed out!
post #295 of 782
Thanks dagameballa for checking this out on the ghosting issue.
post #296 of 782
I'm putting it through the ringer! I have only seen minor ghosting with the 3d setting on high! zero flicker..I'm shaking my head back and forth...holding my head still moving my eyes back and forth fast side to side, top to bottom..zero flicker..tearing anything..the image remains solid no matter what! I'm gonna say I think it is these new awesome glasses! Boy having that big ugly cyclops guy in wrath of titans face right in your face in 3d..I just realized man he is ugly.
Edited by dagameballa - 11/1/12 at 6:27pm
post #297 of 782
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Originally Posted by dagameballa View Post

I'm putting it through the ringer! I have only seen minor ghosting with the 3d setting on high! zero flicker..I'm shaking my head back and forth...holding my head still moving my eyes back and forth fast side to side, top to bottom..zero flicker..tearing anything..the image remains solid no matter what! I'm gonna say I think it is these new awesome glasses! Boy having that big ugly cyclops guy in wrath of titans face right in your face in 3d..I just realized man he is ugly.

Does the 5020 have any masking support?
post #298 of 782
Read the PC review. While 50 ms is an improvement, that is still disappointingly high.

I played a bunch of fighting games (which require even faster twitch and response times than FPS) such as P4A, TTT2, AE, UMvC3 on the 5010 and despite what others say, the input lag was extremely noticeable. Even with shooters, it was ridiculously laggy (for instance, perfect active reloading was almost impossible in Gears 3). Again, while 50 ms is an improvement, it's disappointing that Epson couldn't get it down to around 30 (like the Panasonic 8000).

Oh well, I guess I'll stick with the 8100 another year and wait for the 5030 (or whatever Epson chooses to call the next version).
post #299 of 782
Zombie tested 80ms. I think that's probably what you're experiencing. AWFUL from Epson for gamers!!
post #300 of 782
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Originally Posted by gnolivos View Post

Zombie tested 80ms. I think that's probably what you're experiencing. AWFUL from Epson for gamers!!

Hmm, interesting. On one hand, maybe Zombie got it wrong. On the other, maybe Epson sent a "ringer" 5020 to PC sort like how car companies send ringers to Motor Trend to test that have practically nothing in common with the products in the showroom.

Either way, whether it's 50 or 80, the 5020 still has disappointingly high lag that will not suit even the most casual of gamer.
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