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On a side note, Comcast has recently released or is releasing (we got it about a month ago) an update to their boxes that helps address the access to Closed Captioning.

With the update if you hit Menu on the remote twice, then select Setup > Closed Captioning Setup, you can toggle closed captioning on and off from there.
No more shutting the box off and associated bs.

Off topic - but wanted to thank you for pointing this out. CC was mandated years ago to be available on TV sets. Why Comcast et al got away for having it installed as a useless option that took an engineer to access, I don't know. Maybe that's part of the software upgrade that is being phased in that lets you plug in a 1T drive into the SATA port for added storage.
post #242 of 350
I liked last night's show, but when they skip over major deductions. like how Holmes came up with the names, they're really straying a long way from the premise of Holmes stories at their peril.
post #243 of 350
I watched this week's Elementary tonight and loved it as much as I have the earlier episodes. The chemistry between Jonny Lee Miller, as Holmes, and Lucy Liu, as Watson, is a wonder to behold. Believe it or not, I think Elementary is in a class with the iconic Sherlock, staring Benedict Cumberbatch.
post #244 of 350
Agreed, the chemistry between Miller and Liu is excellent. CBS has hit upon a cast that could carry this show for many seasons. I would easily recommend this show to anyone that regularly watched House. The producers do have to hold back on casting recognizable actors as the perp each time, the plot has become too predictable once a known actor is cast in a role.
post #245 of 350
While this might be blasphemy to some(and I've actually only watched the first 2 episodes of season 1 Sherlock) I actually prefer Elementary over the BBCs Sherlock eek.gif
I guess having watched all the Elementarys I've become accustomed to it's characters in particular Jonny Lee Miller so I actually prefer his manner over Benedict Cumberbatch in the original Sherlock.
For me Elementary also has the advantage of being in full HD(and great HD on CBS it is) while I only got Sherlock on 480i DVD. Lastly I kind of prefer the 1hr(45 minute with Tivo) format over the ~1hr. 30 minute format of Sherlock who's episodes seem more like a movie than a serial program.
Maybe as I watch more I'll warm more up more to Sherlock but as it stands now I think Elementary has it's advantages smile.gif
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post #246 of 350
I also had issues with the new BBC series. For example, I felt like "A Scandal in Belgravia" was the only episode that lived up to all the hype that I heard before seeing the series. While episodes like "Hound of the Baskervilles" and "The Reichenbach Fall" were filled with eyerolls.

OTOH, I really like the way the showed all the connections that Holmes is making in the BBC series and feel that Elementary is doing a poor job in that area.
post #247 of 350
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While this might be blasphemy to some(and I've actually only watched the first 2 episodes of season 1 Sherlock) I actually prefer Elementary over the BBCs Sherlock eek.gif
I guess having watched all the Elementarys I've become accustomed to it's characters in particular Jonny Lee Miller so I actually prefer his manner over Benedict Cumberbatch in the original Sherlock.
For me Elementary also has the advantage of being in full HD(and great HD on CBS it is) while I only got Sherlock on 480i DVD. Lastly I kind of prefer the 1hr(45 minute with Tivo) format over the ~1hr. 30 minute format of Sherlock who's episodes seem more like a movie than a serial program.
Maybe as I watch more I'll warm more up more to Sherlock but as it stands now I think Elementary has it's advantages smile.gif
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They are available in blu-ray and look very good. Like Elementary, prefer BBC's Sherlock.
post #248 of 350
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OTOH, I really like the way the showed all the connections that Holmes is making in the BBC series and feel that Elementary is doing a poor job in that area.

I was initially attracted to Doyle's Sherlock Holmes for the deductive reasoning, found that very interesting. The BBC show I tried to watch a few times but just never clicked with it, will probably give it another try now that I'm hooked on Elementary. Asking for Elementary to have a high level of "smart" writing might be too much to ask of CBS (over the heads of the execs smile.gif ). OTOH Lucy Liu is way better to look at than Martin Freeman, and I think Jonny Lee Miller is more talented in general than Cumberbatch.
post #249 of 350
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I was initially attracted to Doyle's Sherlock Holmes for the deductive reasoning, found that very interesting. The BBC show I tried to watch a few times but just never clicked with it, will probably give it another try now that I'm hooked on Elementary. Asking for Elementary to have a high level of "smart" writing might be too much to ask of CBS (over the heads of the execs smile.gif ). OTOH Lucy Liu is way better to look at than Martin Freeman, and I think Jonny Lee Miller is more talented in general than Cumberbatch.

Alas, there's no telling when a Series 3 of Sherlock might be filmed. The careers of both Benedict Cumberbatch, who plays Holmes, and Martin Freeman, who plays Watson, are on fire these days, so who knows when they will find time to film three more 90 minute Sherlock films.
post #250 of 350
If you want to see real Sherlock Holmes, watch the Jeremy Brett version. By far the best Holmes ever. I'll go as far as say it is one of the best series in TV history. Brett really "gets" the Holmes character and the stories are faithful to the originals.
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If you want to see real Sherlock Holmes, watch the Jeremy Brett version. By far the best Holmes ever. I'll go as far as say it is one of the best series in TV history. Brett really "gets" the Holmes character and the stories are faithful to the originals.

I have trouble staying awake watching Brett.
post #252 of 350
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Alas, there's no telling when a Series 3 of Sherlock might be filmed. The careers of both Benedict Cumberbatch, who plays Holmes, and Martin Freeman, who plays Watson, are on fire these days, so who knows when they will find time to film three more 90 minute Sherlock films.

Not positive of this but seems I remember reading that both are contractually obligated to a 3rd season.
post #253 of 350
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Alas, there's no telling when a Series 3 of Sherlock might be filmed. The careers of both Benedict Cumberbatch, who plays Holmes, and Martin Freeman, who plays Watson, are on fire these days, so who knows when they will find time to film three more 90 minute Sherlock films.

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Not positive of this but seems I remember reading that both are contractually obligated to a 3rd season.

Yep. According to reports, both really enjoy 'Sherlock' and want to continue. Given that, it's just a matter of finding the time to sync up their schedules (pronounced shedules, as the Brits would do. wink.gif )
post #254 of 350
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Given that, it's just a matter of finding the time to sync up their schedules (pronounced shedules, as the Brits would do. wink.gif )
Ah, giving us just a little does of the local "colour", right?
post #255 of 350
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Originally Posted by BarnacleBill View Post

If you want to see real Sherlock Holmes, watch the Jeremy Brett version. By far the best Holmes ever. I'll go as far as say it is one of the best series in TV history. Brett really "gets" the Holmes character and the stories are faithful to the originals.

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Originally Posted by BarnacleBill View Post

If you want to see real Sherlock Holmes, watch the Jeremy Brett version. By far the best Holmes ever. I'll go as far as say it is one of the best series in TV history. Brett really "gets" the Holmes character and the stories are faithful to the originals.

I have trouble staying awake watching Brett.

Just added to my Netflix instant queue. Don't think I've seen any before. We'll see if I can stay awake, the Cumberbatch/Freeman version did that well enough.
post #256 of 350
If you're expecting the same thing as the modern Sherlock, you'll probably be disappointed. As entertaining as the current BBC miniseries episodes are, they aren't faithful to the originals (and weren't meant to be), since they are designed as a "re-imagining" of the old cases. Jeremy Brett adapts Holmes's original cases for the screen, and the result is a mostly intellectual problem-solving affair. If you're hoping for the superfluous fights and chase scenes that even the Benedict/Cumberbatch version can't resist including, you'll have to look elsewhere.
post #257 of 350
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If you're expecting the same thing as the modern Sherlock, you'll probably be disappointed. As entertaining as the current BBC miniseries episodes are, they aren't faithful to the originals (and weren't meant to be), since they are designed as a "re-imagining" of the old cases. Jeremy Brett adapts Holmes's original cases for the screen, and the result is a mostly intellectual problem-solving affair. If you're hoping for the superfluous fights and chase scenes that even the Benedict/Cumberbatch version can't resist including, you'll have to look elsewhere.

I fell in love with the books originally, so sounds like the Brett version might be okay. Maybe I also didn't give the Cumberbatch/Freeman versions a good try as I think it was bedtime each time...
post #258 of 350
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Yep. According to reports, both really enjoy 'Sherlock' and want to continue. Given that, it's just a matter of finding the time to sync up their schedules (pronounced shedules, as the Brits would do. wink.gif )

Yeah, I think theres a strong probability that a Series 3 of Sherlock will come to pass. It is a quality show and i'm sure that Cumberbatch and Freeman are justifiably proud of it and will do everything possible to ensure that it continues. In that connection, I am pleased that Elementary will be getting a second season.
post #259 of 350
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Just added to my Netflix instant queue. Don't think I've seen any before. We'll see if I can stay awake, the Cumberbatch/Freeman version did that well enough.

Most of them are in The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes. There are also 5 standalone episodes, most filmed between series 3 and 4. Best way to find these episodes on Netflix is to search for Jeremy Brett.
post #260 of 350
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Just added to my Netflix instant queue. Don't think I've seen any before. We'll see if I can stay awake, the Cumberbatch/Freeman version did that well enough.

Worth a try. You may really like them and with a different actor I might too. They have been on for years so somebody likes them. The Poirot series on PBS is my favorite and a lot of those episodes are on Netflix streaming as well.
post #261 of 350
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Just added to my Netflix instant queue. Don't think I've seen any before. We'll see if I can stay awake, the Cumberbatch/Freeman version did that well enough.

Most of them are in The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes. There are also 5 standalone episodes, most filmed between series 3 and 4. Best way to find these episodes on Netflix is to search for Jeremy Brett.

We'll see if I can get thru A Scandal in Bohemia....and there's a ref to the 7% solution already (why did they choose heroin for the new series I wonder?...cocaine is that out of style?). Watched about 10 minutes just to get a flavor before turning out the lights last night...
post #262 of 350
I like it. We have been wondering all along how they would transition into Watson not being his sober companion.
post #263 of 350
Did anyone catch the gliltch in the last episode--When Holmes & Watson were riding in the rearward facing seats in the limo there was a shot in which the car was driving backwards for about a block.
post #264 of 350
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Did anyone catch the gliltch in the last episode--When Holmes & Watson were riding in the rearward facing seats in the limo there was a shot in which the car was driving backwards for about a block.
Yes. smile.gif
post #265 of 350
Just started to watch 'Elemental' on Sky's UK catch-up service (excellent 1080i H264 HD + 5.1 downloaded to your PVR via broadband - effectively identical quality to live and recorded broadcast TV)

Enjoyed it. Not as visually interesting as the BBC's Sherlock, but Lee-Miller is very good. Isn't going to be as 'must see' as Sherlock, but have downloaded the rest to watch on a rainy Saturday afternoon. (Which aren't uncommon here in London)
post #266 of 350
Elementary isn't the only series to get this wrong, they were the latest in which I noticed. And what might "this" be?

Receiving a text message on your cell phone from a blocked caller, only to turn around an text that person back. Impossible. You can't send a text back to whom you have no idea where it came from.
post #267 of 350
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Just started to watch 'Elemental' on Sky's UK catch-up service (excellent 1080i H264 HD + 5.1 downloaded to your PVR via broadband - effectively identical quality to live and recorded broadcast TV)

Enjoyed it. Not as visually interesting as the BBC's Sherlock, but Lee-Miller is very good. Isn't going to be as 'must see' as Sherlock, but have downloaded the rest to watch on a rainy Saturday afternoon. (Which aren't uncommon here in London)

Glad you got onto Elementary. Sherlock is one of my favorite TV series but I think that Elementary is close. As you posted, Jonny Lee Miller is terrific as Holmes. I like Lucy Liu as Watson too. Miller and Liu have great on screen chemistry. Nevertheless, I do need a Sherlock fix. No telling when it is coming back, though, considering how busy both Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman are these days. I can't imagine how much talent and effort go into producing three one-and-a-half hour movies each season. If the quality of Series 3 of Elementary, when we finally get it, comes anywhere comes even close to that of Series 1 and 2, my hat will be off to Gatiss and Moffat.
post #268 of 350
Supposedly there's only one more season of Sherlock. Primarily due to both Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman having found better paying gigs.
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Supposedly there's only one more season of Sherlock. Primarily due to both Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman having found better paying gigs.

Benedict Cumberbatch (love that name) can be seen currently in the 5 part mini-series on HBO entitled, Parades End. Last of the 5 episodes tonight, but will be re-run this weekend and next week. A bit like Downton Abbey, but a little meaner. There is more sarcasm in DB.
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Supposedly there's only one more season of Sherlock. Primarily due to both Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman having found better paying gigs.

The co-creator of Sherlock, Steven Moffat is also quite busy showrunning Doctor Who as well.
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