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post #121 of 351
I think they've done a very good job of mixing it up this season. The ghost story, the monster (alien) on the sub, etc.
post #122 of 351
Angels Take Manhatten really stands out though.
post #123 of 351
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Me too. Not wanting to get the title wrong, I just checked IMBD to get it right: The Silence in the Library is maybe my favorite Who episode ever. In checking that I discovered he also wrote Blink, which is the first appearance of the Weeping Angels. I think he wrote one or two episodes a year during the Davis-Tenant run. And then there's Jekyll, which I seem to hold in higher regard than most people.smile.gif I'm in awe of that one.

Another stellar Moffat story, with a good mix of emotion and whimsy, is the Christopher Eccleston Doctor 2-parter The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances.
post #124 of 351
The bad guys turning people into "tan mom".
lol
post #125 of 351
Diana Rigg & her daughter both in this last ep ... Wow, nice to see "Emma Peel" again..
post #126 of 351
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Diana Rigg & her daughter both in this last ep ... Wow, nice to see "Emma Peel" again..

She is in Game of Thrones, too.
post #127 of 351
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Another stellar Moffat story, with a good mix of emotion and whimsy, is the Christopher Eccleston Doctor 2-parter The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances.

I think that arc is some of the best television I have ever seen.
post #128 of 351
I hope there will be only one episode with the kids... (yeah I know the kid spinoff is off the air but c'mon)
post #129 of 351
Just a reminder that the series finale is tomorrow night.
post #130 of 351
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Just a reminder that the series finale is tomorrow night.

Series? Oh, never mind, they call them all series instead of seasons over there. smile.gif
post #131 of 351
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Series? Oh, never mind, they call them all series instead of seasons over there. smile.gif

Oh, don't get me started. I was on set for three episodes (including this finale), and never did a single producer, director, or crew person correct me when I said 'season' instead of 'series'. But OH MY GOD, make that substitution on AVS, and suddenly, the nerd police come out in full force LOL. wink.gif
post #132 of 351
Even more nerdness, isn't this whole run from Eccleston through Smith considered the "5th Series" of Dr. Who? tongue.gif

Never mind, apparently the Ninth was Eccleston, Tennant the Tenth and Smith is the Eleventh.

I seem to recall the "re-boot" in 2005 being called the fifth series though, maybe I'm wrong.
post #133 of 351
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I seem to recall the "re-boot" in 2005 being called the fifth series though, maybe I'm wrong.

We are technically at the end of the 7th series of what is colloquially called 'New Who'. And there's no direct correlation between the number of the Doctor, and the number of the series.
post #134 of 351
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We are technically at the end of the 7th series of what is colloquially called 'New Who'. And there's no direct correlation between the number of the Doctor, and the number of the series.

There is the argument that we are at the end of the 8th series... though I don't think anyone really counts them that way... but we had Series 1-4, then the "year of Tennant Specials" then 5-7... Some count that year of specials as a series. When you think about it, they did 6 total specials that year since they did 4 instead of a series, then a 2-part one at Christmas... so in terms of work... 5 of those specials were nearly the same as 10 regular episodes... so it was only a slightly shorter season than the rest.
post #135 of 351
So, um... Y'all get that?

John Hurt is the real '9th' and everyone after him (Eccleston, Tennant, and Smith) are pushed up one.

I've always wondered about what went on during the Time War, the destruction of Gallifrey, the end of all the other Time Lords, and the Doctor's involvement in it.... looks like we'll finally be on the cusp of finding that out...

But, if Smith is really the 12th Doctor... does that mean when Smith is done the show is done?
post #136 of 351
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So, um... Y'all get that?

John Hurt is the real '9th' and everyone after him (Eccleston, Tennant, and Smith) are pushed up one.

Assumes facts not yet established ...
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But, if Smith is really the 12th Doctor... does that mean when Smith is done the show is done?

Assumes facts that can always be re-written smile.gif (I assume you're referring to a limit on the number of regenerations?)
post #137 of 351
OK ... did I miss River saying the Doctors name????
post #138 of 351
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OK ... did I miss River saying the Doctors name????

Nope ...we were Lucy'd ... again. Did anyone really expect them to reveal the name? biggrin.gif (Actually she said it, we just weren't allowed to hear it.)

PS: As for the number of TL "lives" ... supposedly it is 13 (12 regenerations + the original) ... unless it isn't. The "cannon" allows for any number of ways around that "rule," probably including a few that haven't even been thought of yet. wink.gif
post #139 of 351
I've seen several people asking where this "real 9th Doctor" rumor has come from... but nobody seems to know. There was nothing in that episode to make you think that... and in fact, I think there is a lot to suggest that rumor is off-base.

First, it would be the mother of all ret-cons... and I don't think even Moffat wants to mess with the show that badly... it would be a big thing to retroactively say there was another regeneration that we didn't know about after all this time... and it is a cheap trick at that, like the proverbial rabbit from the backside of the hat.

Meanwhile... Christopher Eccleston (9th Doctor) was asked to be in the 50th by Moffat... Eccleston declined. McGann (8th Doctor) has said he would be in it if he was asked... so there is no reason to create a new intermediate regeneration. It would be a HUGE slap in the face to McGann who was apparently ready willing and able to be in the 50th to invent a new role and re-case instead of using McGann. Say what you will about the other classic series Doctors not looking the part... but McGann still does AND we never saw him regenerate anyway so there's no reason he can't be brought in at any time.

My money is on the Valeyard. I'll actually be disappointed if they don't make John Hurt out to be the future incarnation of the Doctor that we have already seen before (classic Dr Who during the Colin Baker years AND in the Dream Master episode from a couple of series ago)... also they went out of their way to mention the Valeyard in this episode too.
post #140 of 351
I'd be ok with it if it turned out that Mr. Hurt was the original "Doctor" ... before he picked the name ... But, being that this is Doctor Who, I'm sure that the answer with be simple, brilliant, completely unguessable beforehand but totally sensible in hindsight ... wink.gif

PS: Random thought of the day ... it would be hilarious if it turned out that the Doctor's real name was "Sweetie." biggrin.gif
post #141 of 351
Or could it be Eiteews.. or some anagram of Sweetie (Steewie? LOL)
post #142 of 351
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Or could it be Eiteews.. or some anagram of Sweetie (Steewie? LOL)

That would be brilliant.
post #143 of 351
Don't make me say the H Word... (which incidentally is an anagram of Dr Who...)
post #144 of 351
I've watched it (the finale) 3 times now...would be really interested in everyone's thoughts, esp. those who have watched all of the series. I've seen some of the earlier Doctors and all of the reboot..just wondering what everybody's take was on this one. Is it a gamechanger for the whole series?
post #145 of 351
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I've watched it (the finale) 3 times now...would be really interested in everyone's thoughts, esp. those who have watched all of the series. I've seen some of the earlier Doctors and all of the reboot..just wondering what everybody's take was on this one. Is it a gamechanger for the whole series?

I agree that the season finale was intriguing. Given the doctor's time traveling and physical regenerative powers, there are so many ways the writers can take the story from here, I'm afraid to speculate what will come next.
post #146 of 351
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Originally Posted by lonwolf615 View Post

I've watched it (the finale) 3 times now...would be really interested in everyone's thoughts, esp. those who have watched all of the series. I've seen some of the earlier Doctors and all of the reboot..just wondering what everybody's take was on this one. Is it a gamechanger for the whole series?

The more I think about it ... the more I'm thinking "Doctor Hurt" is a part of the Doctor's personality that he keeps bottled up ... There was an interesting blurb on one of the "inside the show" bits or "retrospectives" where either Matt Smith or Moffet said something to the effect of '...I wonder what it would be like if the Doctor were evil ...?' ... A clue perhaps? ... Time will tell ...
post #147 of 351
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The more I think about it ... the more I'm thinking "Doctor Hurt" is a part of the Doctor's personality that he keeps bottled up ... There was an interesting blurb on one of the "inside the show" bits or "retrospectives" where either Matt Smith or Moffet said something to the effect of '...I wonder what it would be like if the Doctor were evil ...?' ... A clue perhaps? ... Time will tell ...

If the Doctor were evil, he'd be like the Master.
post #148 of 351
In case anyone's interested, here's an article in FXGuide about some of the VFX work this season on Doctor Who, and about the finale specifically.

Doctor Who: Stargate's Adventures in Time
post #149 of 351
I guess what I'm asking is a two fold question. First, how good did you think this episode was? Second, and more to the point: Does this fit into the established Who mythology, or does it come out of left field?See, I loved the episode. I just don't know exactly why.smile.gif
post #150 of 351
I don't know how to answer your question exactly.

I've had some problems with the Moffat-ran series for a few years now. He starts off with a bang and with good ideas, but the payoff never seems to fit. Doctor Who has started to feel a lot like Stephen King stories... where you really look forward to it, are grabbed by the opening bits... and then disappointed by the ending.

That said... I didn't hate this episode. I liked it, even if it was a bit far-reaching in some ways (especially the bit with going all the way back to the first Doctor and directly interacting... that felt wrong to me)... to be fair, I'm going to wait to like or hate this proper until I see the anniversary special and see how they explain Hurt's character. I am in the camp who thinks/roots for him to be Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
the Valeyard, last scene proper in Colin Baker's final season... though mentioned a couple of times in modern Who
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