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post #241 of 351
Heads up, Classic Who fans: Sylvester McCoy's (aka Radagast the Brown) special airs tonight 7/27/2013 on BBCA ... That is all.
post #242 of 351
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Heads up, Classic Who fans: Sylvester McCoy's (aka Radagast the Brown) special airs tonight 7/27/2013 on BBCA ... That is all.

I hope it's an episode with Ace and not with Mel. Man I disliked her almost as much as I disliked Tegan.
post #243 of 351
Others here may already be aware (I wasn't), but in the linked article I read this nice little tidbit:

"Also in November, the movie "An Adventure in Space and Time" stars David Bradley (Walder Frey in "Game of Thrones" and Filch in the "Harry Potter" movies) as William Hartnell, the first Doctor. The movie "tells the story of the genesis of 'Doctor Who,' which first aired on Nov. 23, 1963, and the many personalities involved.""


http://www.stltoday.com/entertainment/television/gail-pennington/tca-who-are-you-matt-smith-minus-his-mop-wraps/article_e57b951f-b07a-5f29-aa4d-4c3558caf944.html
post #244 of 351
Actor who will play the 12th Doctor will be announced live on Sunday on BBC1 & simulcast on BBC America.

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/
post #245 of 351
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Actor who will play the 12th Doctor will be announced live on Sunday on BBC1 & simulcast on BBC America.

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/

And here’s the official word, Doctor Who fans: the next Doctor will be revealed before a live studio audience in a special set to air Sunday, August 4 at 2 pm ET on BBC AMERICA, according to a release today (August 1).
http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2013/08/twelfth-doctor-to-be-unveiled-in-live-bbc-america-special-sunday/
post #246 of 351
So have their been any leaks or speculation about who its going to be?
post #247 of 351
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So have their been any leaks or speculation about who its going to be?

Carrot Top?
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Carrot Top?

I guess thats a no...
post #249 of 351
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So have their been any leaks or speculation about who its going to be?

Just heard on NPR that it's some Scottish actor I'm not familiar with. British bookies have him 6 to 5.
post #250 of 351
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Just heard on NPR that it's some Scottish actor I'm not familiar with. British bookies have him 6 to 5.
Peter Capaldi, who was spectacular in Armando Iannucci's The Thick of It. Capaldi is quite good, if he is the new Dr I think he'll do a great job, I would certainly be happy with him in the role.
post #251 of 351
Peter Capaldi and Daniel Rigby are both being widely tipped here. BBC One at 1900 tomorrow night could be a good watch here in the UK!
post #252 of 351
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Peter Capaldi and Daniel Rigby are both being widely tipped here. BBC One at 1900 tomorrow night could be a good watch here in the UK!

I's being simulcast on BBC America, as well as Space Channel in Canada and ABCTV in Australia.
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Looks like we might have a Doctor that will birch slap the shirt out of people who say "Whovian" "Timey Wimey" or "Fezzes are cool."

His first action as new Doctor should include slapping the taste out of the mouth of the first person under 30 that speaks to him. Like a straight old school backhand across the jaw.
Edited by darthrsg - 8/4/13 at 7:27pm
post #255 of 351
I already like him more than Smith. smile.gif
post #256 of 351
they's got's some 'splain' da do ...

Face already used in DW (minor role in "Fires of Pompey") and "Torchwood: Children of Earth" (not so minor role as the Gov. D-Bag in charge of "negotiations" with species 426)

OTOH, the opportunity for a major RETCON here. wink.gif
post #257 of 351
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So have their been any leaks or speculation about who its going to be?

I'm holding out for Tony Slattery. smile.gif

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they's got's some 'splain' da do ...

Face already used in DW (minor role in "Fires of Pompey") and "Torchwood: Children of Earth" (not so minor role as the Gov. D-Bag in charge of "negotiations" with species 426)

OTOH, the opportunity for a major RETCON here. wink.gif

No explaining to do at all. Freema Agyeman was in the 2006 episode Army of Ghosts before the 2007 episode Smith and Jones where she became a companion, and she was certainly NOT playing the Martha Jones character, as she died I that earlier episode.
post #258 of 351
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they's got's some 'splain' da do ...

Face already used in DW (minor role in "Fires of Pompey") and "Torchwood: Children of Earth" (not so minor role as the Gov. D-Bag in charge of "negotiations" with species 426)

OTOH, the opportunity for a major RETCON here. wink.gif

Colin Baker, the 6th Doctor, had also appeared in a previous series as a different character.

They have used plot devices in the past to allow the same actor to portray two different characters though - Lalla Ward (who played the second Romana after regeneration) and Anthony Ainley (who played a regenerated Master) for example.
post #259 of 351
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Colin Baker, the 6th Doctor, had also appeared in a previous series as a different character.

They have used plot devices in the past to allow the same actor to portray two different characters though - Lalla Ward (who played the second Romana after regeneration) and Anthony Ainley (who played a regenerated Master) for example.

And don't forget Bernard Cribbins.... companion to Peter Cushing in Daleks - Invasion Earth 2150 AD, and lately Donna Noble's grandfather.

Good to see them revert to an older doctor, bringing back memories of the glory years of Pertwee and Troughton.
post #260 of 351
All the damn 'splainin' is what's wrong with half of the show these days. Stop it already and fight some bad dudes.
post #261 of 351
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Colin Baker, the 6th Doctor, had also appeared in a previous series as a different character.

I just find it "interesting" that in all the press blurbs, they go out of the way to point out his seconds long role in "Pompeii" but completely ignore his part in "Torchwood." In fact, when he walked out of the "time vortex," my first thought was, "That's the dude from Torchwood: COE." I had to go to imdb-dot-com to make sure I wasn't hallucinating. smile.gif It's almost like they want you to forget John Frobisher even "existed."
post #262 of 351
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No explaining to do at all. Freema Agyeman was in the 2006 episode Army of Ghosts before the 2007 episode Smith and Jones where she became a companion, and she was certainly NOT playing the Martha Jones character, as she died I that earlier episode.

Yes and "Gwen" from Torchwood was also in a DW episode ... but at least they (eventually) explained that her character in DW was an ancestor. (IIRC)
post #263 of 351
So.... will they have to bleep his dialog?

NSFW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al7XJxlDoyQ

jdg
post #264 of 351
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Yes and "Gwen" from Torchwood was also in a DW episode ... but at least they (eventually) explained that her character in DW was an ancestor. (IIRC)
I saw David Tennant in a movie AFTER DW. 'Splain that you Hardwick #hashtag Lovers!
post #265 of 351
Patrick Troughton was also in the original Omen... as a monk...

Explain that!

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But seriously... no big deal here... the only odd bit here is that Karen Gillan was also in that same Pompeii episode. This is the first time I'm aware of that both the Doctor and a companion appeared previously on Who in the same episode before being cast as Doctor/companion.
post #266 of 351
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Patrick Troughton was also in the original Omen... as a monk...

But seriously... no big deal here... the only odd bit here is that Karen Gillan was also in that same Pompeii episode. This is the first time I'm aware of that both the Doctor and a companion appeared previously on Who in the same episode before being cast as Doctor/companion.

Not really the point: The point is that I don't remember any of those aforementioned "one off" guest appearances - those were all background (and frankly forgettable) characters. OTOH, John Frobisher was a memorable series long gig in the DW/TW universe ... Mr. Capaldi is going to have to hit a grand-slam homer in his first episode to erase the memory of JF. I don't really know him from anywhere other than TW:COE (although I'm sure he's been in other TV shows a/o Movies that I've seen.)

More to the point:

1) It doesn't matter how many "Hamlets" or "Broadchurchs" that Mr. Tennant does, he's still always going to be the Doctor. (to me.)
2) Eve Myles is always going to be "Gwen."
3) Barrowman is always going to be "Capt. Jack."
4) Freema is always going to be "Martha Jones" no matter how many episodes of L&O: UK she does, or how much slumming around she does at "The CW."
5) Karen G. .... Amy Pond.

6) John Simm ... DI(DCI) Sam Tyler or The Master ... it's a toss up. wink.gif

Yes I realize there's a long tradition, in Theater, of one actor playing several roles (in the same play!) but that's not quite the same thing.

Clearly, the choice is not a show stopper, but it will require some recalibration. smile.gif Again the fact that Mr. Capaldi's much more meatier role in TW:COE has not been mentioned in the press packets or the live "reveal" show leads me to believe that TPTB might also be a wee bit concerned that it might cause some confusion.
Edited by HDTVChallenged - 8/5/13 at 11:14pm
post #267 of 351
It makes sense now. HDTV CHALLENGED. :-) I get it now.
post #268 of 351
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More to the point:

1) It doesn't matter how many "Hamlets" or "Broadchurchs" that Mr. Tennant does, he's still always going to be the Doctor. (to me.)
2) Eve Myles is always going to be "Gwen."
3) Barrowman is always going to be "Capt. Jack."
4) Freema is always going to be "Martha Jones" no matter how many episodes of L&O: UK she does, or how much slumming around she does at "The CW."
5) Karen G. .... Amy Pond.

6) John Sims ... DI(DCI) Tyler or The Master ... it's a toss up. wink.gif

Yes I realize there's a long tradition, in Theater, of one actor playing several roles (in the same play!) but that's not quite the same thing.

Clearly, the choice is not a show stopper, but it will require some recalibration. smile.gif Again the fact that Mr. Capaldi's much more meatier role in TW:COE has not been mentioned in the press packets or the live "reveal" show leads me to believe that TPTB might also be a wee bit concerned that it might cause some confusion.

Please don't take this as an insult... but isn't everything you listed above really your inability to look past an actor and see the role rather than a limitation of the actor?

I've seen John Pertwee in other things... Patrick Troughton in other things... Peter Davison in other things... Paul McGann in other things... Christopher Eccleston in other things... David Tennant in other things...

When I hear about the casting and see a still photo promo, I say "hey, the Doctor is doing something new!" but when I'm actually watching the other thing... IF the actor is any good, then all that goes away.

Heck... I have a much more difficult time with an actor like Jack Nicholson who is virtually the same character in every movie... whereas the people you are talking about here actually change their character when they are in Doctor Who vs when they are not... and I don't find it confusing at all.

Truth be told... I saw the Omen long before I had seen Doctor Who... and I didn't see Troughton and say "hey, it's that monk from Omen"... Peter Davison was on "All Creatures Great & Small" but that wasn't on my mind when watching Doctor Who. Christopher Eccleston I saw in 28 Days Later before Doctor Who, but I didn't see the crazy/mad post-apocalypse dictator-military-man in Doctor Who.

If anybody is "always" anything... then it's either a fault of the actor not being versatile OR a fault of the viewer refusing to break the connection.
post #269 of 351
There is also a chance Moffat doesn't consider Torchwood as part of the Whoverse. He could look at it as a Davis creation not related to his vision of Who, so there is no conflict with Capaldi having been in both.
post #270 of 351
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Please don't take this as an insult... but isn't everything you listed above really your inability to look past an actor and see the role rather than a limitation of the actor?

No .. I'm just saying that a lasting impression has already been made. This is kind of like saying Ricardo Montalban would have been a smashing choice to play Capt. Picard or Capt. Archer.
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Truth be told... I saw the Omen long before I had seen Doctor Who... and I didn't see Troughton and say "hey, it's that monk from Omen"...

Oddly enough I didn't really make the conscious connection there until it was mentioned here in the thread. wink.gif OTOH, it *is* true that I don't necessarily look at Denny Crane and think there's Capt. Kirk ... but those are two widely (if not wildly) divergent universes.

PS: I guess the irony here is that if Capaldi had not done such an excellent and memorable job in TW:COE, I wouldn't have made the connection so "instantly."
Edited by HDTVChallenged - 8/5/13 at 11:23pm
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