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post #91 of 133
1/27/13 at 12:27pm
They're great for their size for sure...
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post #92 of 133
1/28/13 at 4:46pm
looks good so far but ceiling fan? xD
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post #93 of 133
1/28/13 at 4:56pm
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I am going back and forth between doing 1 row of 4 at the perfect seating distance vs. a row of 3 and 2 single seats in back.

In order to do 2 rows without a riser I would do the front row and back row Rialto seats. That would give me a 14" difference between the front and back rows.

For a second, I had a fantasy of doing 3 rows, but then I realized that the chairs need 65" to fully recline which would put the front row just a few feet from the screen. That is a no go at 113" and AT material.

Having 2 rows may be dependent on the front row seats with no leg rests being comfortable. Another option is to buy 2 of 4seating.com's 50" x 70" x 14" risers for the back row. Which I are pretty reasonably priced at $419 each.
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post #94 of 133
1/28/13 at 4:56pm
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I am going back and forth between doing 1 row of 4 at the perfect seating distance vs. a row of 3 and 2 single seats in back.

In order to do 2 rows without a riser I would do the front row and back row Rialto seats. That would give me a 14" difference between the front and back rows.

For a second, I had a fantasy of doing 3 rows, but then I realized that the chairs need 65" to fully recline which would put the front row just a few feet from the screen. That is a no go at 113" and AT material.

Having 2 rows may be dependent on the front row seats with no leg rests being comfortable. Another option is to buy 2 of 4seating.com's 50" x 70" x 14" risers for the back row. Which I are pretty reasonably priced at $419 each.
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post #95 of 133
1/28/13 at 5:28pm
Good luck on the build. It will sound awesome! I myself settled on the orbitshifter lfu after doing multiple demos at Jeff's between the OS and Cap S2 . Good thing you anchored the equipment rack. With a S2 in the house you have to make sure everything is anchored including things in your neighbor's home biggrin.gif But for now make sure your ceiling fan is anchored good and you have a method of decoupling your projector nicely so that it wont vibrate when the S2 kicks in!
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post #96 of 133
1/28/13 at 7:17pm
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looks good so far but ceiling fan? xD
It is a converted bedroom. We have not yet experienced a summer in this house. If it is really bad we will get AC and ditch the ceiling fan, if not the ceiling fan may be just enough to keep it cool during movies. I reanchored it and it is surprisingly quiet.
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post #97 of 133
1/28/13 at 7:20pm
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Good luck on the build. It will sound awesome! I myself settled on the orbitshifter lfu after doing multiple demos at Jeff's between the OS and Cap S2 . Good thing you anchored the equipment rack. With a S2 in the house you have to make sure everything is anchored including things in your neighbor's home biggrin.gif But for now make sure your ceiling fan is anchored good and you have a method of decoupling your projector nicely so that it wont vibrate when the S2 kicks in!
I have most things anchored pretty well, but even though the floor is a concrete slab and the wall with the bookshelf is concrete, the pictures still rattle during Art of Flight.
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post #98 of 133
1/28/13 at 7:23pm
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Good luck on the build. It will sound awesome! I myself settled on the orbitshifter lfu after doing multiple demos at Jeff's between the OS and Cap S2 .
I went back and forth as well. I settled on the S2 because it fit so well below my mains and because, even though the output is around half of the OS, it can still reach reference in my small room with headroom to spare. However I still have bass envy for anyone with a pair of S2's or 1 OS.
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post #99 of 133
1/29/13 at 4:53am
Your equipment is great! Check into the AC/duct work for your room. Taking the ceiling fan out will be a great benefit, I agree in wanting to feel comfortable though. Your room is a dedicated room now, it's understandable when it's a crossover living room situation.

I hope to use JTR in my main theater room also. I currently have an Epik Conquest in my 3D room. I want to do DIY IB subs in the main theater room, but I don't know how to build it yet. I am subscribing to this thread.
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post #100 of 133
1/29/13 at 12:15pm
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Your equipment is great! Check into the AC/duct work for your room. Taking the ceiling fan out will be a great benefit, I agree in wanting to feel comfortable though. Your room is a dedicated room now, it's understandable when it's a crossover living room situation.

I hope to use JTR in my main theater room also. I currently have an Epik Conquest in my 3D room. I want to do DIY IB subs in the main theater room, but I don't know how to build it yet. I am subscribing to this thread.

The duct work is in place. It is just a question of buying the AC unit. Another benefit of taking the fan out is that I could ceiling mount my projector and get another seat in the back row. However, I need to figure out warm that room and the rest of the house will get before pulling the trigger.
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post #101 of 133
2/16/13 at 9:15pm
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I haven't posted in a while. I am still looking around for seats. We found a couple of places that sell them in town, but no one who actually has them available to try out. We will have to get up to LA at some point to sit in some before purchasing.

I also am going to take advantage of the sale pricing on the new Noesis 228HT's for LCR and move my T8's to surround duty.

I will also have to purchase a 4th T8 as a final rear surround. This will only cost a couple of hundred more than getting 4 new Slanted 8's so I think it will be worth it. I need to make some French cleats to hang them.
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post #102 of 133
2/17/13 at 4:08am
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I also am going to take advantage of the sale pricing on the new Noesis 228HT's for LCR and move my T8's to surround duty.

Nice, I read recently about the pre-order sale. Not in my budget yet:(
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post #103 of 133
2/17/13 at 3:57pm
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It was a big day for us. Check out this Craigslist find by my wife this morning.

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$800 for 4 actual leather coaster theater seats a year and a half old in perfect condition. You would not believe what a pain in the butt is was carrying them down 2 flights of stairs from the apartment of the seller and then down another flight into my theater, but we have them there now, cleaned up and ready for a movie after we return the Uhaul.
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post #104 of 133
2/17/13 at 5:49pm
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It was a big day for us. Check out this Craigslist find by my wife this morning.

e4u4usy9.jpg

vutyrasu.jpg

$800 for 4 actual leather coaster theater seats a year and a half old in perfect condition. You would not believe what a pain in the butt is was carrying them down 2 flights of stairs from the apartment of the seller and then down another flight into my theater, but we have them there now, cleaned up and ready for a movie after we return the Uhaul.

Very nice find!
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post #105 of 133
2/18/13 at 6:44pm
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Just ordered my Noesis 228HT's.

Check out this customer service. Jeff is making me a Triple 8X with 2010 internals to match my current LCR so I can move them to surround duty without having 1 speaker sound different than the others.

What mass market speaker company would recreate an old product for you?
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post #106 of 133
2/19/13 at 11:59pm
Thanks for letting me check out your room today Jedi. Very cool setup you have.
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post #107 of 133
2/20/13 at 6:22am
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Thanks for letting me check out your room today Jedi. Very cool setup you have.
Thank you. It was fun showing it off. At some point I would love to see your theater. I have never experienced any more than 7.1, and your projector must be amazing.
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post #108 of 133
2/22/13 at 10:31am
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I have been doing some thinking about surround placement.

I will be able to cut a hole in the back of the bookshelf and build a shelf for that T8 in. The bookshelves are thankfully 1" wider than the T8 when placed horizontal.

I am going to build boxes on the wall for the surround backs. I will most likely just make all these out of plywood and paint them white. If my wife approves, I will just leave the fronts open, if not, I will hide the speakers with grill cloth.

The right surround presents more of a problem. The only option for proper placement is to attach it to the ceiling. I will probably build a box similar to the others and screw it into the ceiling joists. I want to aim the surround speakers a little down, but building boxes to support them in an angled position may be beyond my construction capabilities.

The only problem is that I may have to buy a table saw to make the cuts for the boxes.
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post #109 of 133
2/22/13 at 10:35am
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I have been doing some thinking about surround placement.

I will be able to cut a hole in the back of the bookshelf and build a shelf for that T8 in. The bookshelves are thankfully 1" wider than the T8 when placed horizontal.

I am going to build boxes on the wall for the surround backs. I will most likely just make all these out of plywood and paint them white. If my wife approves, I will just leave the fronts open. if not, I will hide the speakers with grill cloth.

The right surround presents more of a problem. The only option for proper placement is to attach it to the ceiling. I will probably build a box similar to the others and screw it into the ceiling joists. I want to aim the surround speakers a little down, but building boxes to support them in an angled position may be beyond my construction capabilities.

The only problem is that I may have to buy a table saw to make the cuts for the boxes.
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post #110 of 133
2/22/13 at 10:37am
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Originally Posted by Jedirun View Post

I have been doing some thinking about surround placement.

I will be able to cut a hole in the back of the bookshelf and build a shelf for that T8 in. The bookshelves are thankfully 1" wider than the T8 when placed horizontal.

I am going to build boxes on the wall for the surround backs. I will most likely just make all these out of plywood and paint them white. If my wife approves, I will just leave the fronts open, if not, I will hide the speakers with grill cloth.

The right surround presents more of a problem. The only option for proper placement is to attach it to the ceiling. I will probably build a box similar to the others and screw it into the ceiling joists. I want to aim the surround speakers a little down, but building boxes to support them in an angled position may be beyond my construction capabilities.

The only problem is that I may have to buy a table saw to make the cuts for the boxes.

I've got in-ceiling side surrounds.....they work well as long as they're pointed the right way, and angled as much as possible toward the listener.
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post #111 of 133
2/22/13 at 10:54am
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I've got in-ceiling side surrounds.....they work well as long as they're pointed the right way, and angled as much as possible toward the listener.

I may have to figure out how to angle the side surrounds. Maybe a lip at the front of the shelf to keep them from sliding off.
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post #112 of 133
2/22/13 at 3:53pm
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I will mount the side surrounds horizontally and try to angle them down 30 degrees to match the angle of the slanted 8's.

I will mount the rear surrounds vertically and just put them flat against the wall since I don't have to mount them so high.
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post #113 of 133
2/22/13 at 9:47pm
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Here are plans for the right surround and rear surround boxes.

I still have to figure out exactly what to do to get a 30 degree baffle angle for the speaker going in the bookshelf. The back of the bookshelf is open to a storage space which helps.

I found a table saw for $129 that should do the job.



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post #114 of 133
2/24/13 at 3:25pm
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The theater is really coming together. We watched Casino Royale last night as our first movie in the new seats. I was worried that we had placed them too close to the screen. We had to put them there in order to be able to get behind them without climbing over them. However, it worked out perfectly, it seems to be a perfect distance from the screen. The picture looks great and seems to fill your field of view without making you scan around the screen all the time. This is a 112" 16x9 screen distance of 9'.

As soon as I get the new speakers and install the surrounds, I will be pretty much done and satisfied. Actually I am pretty much satisfied now with the exception of the fact that I know I am missing the surround content.
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post #115 of 133
2/24/13 at 3:49pm
Yeah, that caught me off guard when I first sat in your seats. The screen is close, but it is super immersive. Made me think mine are too far!
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post #116 of 133
2/24/13 at 8:10pm
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Yeah, that caught me off guard when I first sat in your seats. The screen is close, but it is super immersive. Made me think mine are too far!
With the amazing projector you have, you can can probably be right on top of the screen before the picture degrades, so you can choose whatever screen angle suits you best.
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post #117 of 133
3/2/13 at 9:46pm
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I have been doing some more thinking. I think I may angle the side surrounds down 45 degrees rather than 30 degrees so that I can get full coverage for my row of seats. Since the speakers will be by the ceiling and nearly on top of the two side seats. This also makes the angles easier when cutting the shelves.
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post #118 of 133
3/2/13 at 9:50pm
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I finally had a carpet repair guy come over and patch an area that got burned as when they were building my screen into the wall. There were also a couple of tiny areas of damage near by. It only cost $200 and the patches are pretty much invisible. I thought I was going to have to replace the whole thing or buy an area rug to cover up the damage.
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post #119 of 133
3/29/13 at 12:14pm
Great build thread!

I am in the process of finding at least two T8's, possibly four , to replace my Klipsch surrounds in my room. My LCR are T12's, which are amazing speakers..

Very anxious to see how you end up mounting these on your wall...
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post #120 of 133
3/29/13 at 1:18pm
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Great build thread!

I am in the process of finding at least two T8's, possibly four , to replace my Klipsch surrounds in my room. My LCR are T12's, which are amazing speakers..

Very anxious to see how you end up mounting these on your wall...
Thank you.

I have never heard T12's, but have always been jealous of them. I am really liking the 228's though and do not know how the system could sound any better.

I have closets on both side walls of my room so I am having them hidden in the walls. All that will be showing is white grill cloth. However, the backs will be visible in the closets.

4 T8 surrounds are overkill in my small room, but even with the construction, it is cheaper than trying to sell them and buy new single or slanted 8's.
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