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Need help choosing a receiver with all of my devices

post #1 of 31
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OK, I'm finally leaving 1999 and going to 2012. I have a HK receiver that's been awesome for 13 years, but now I need to have the latest inputs and sound technology. I know, loooong overdue. So my questions, if can you please help. What receiver should I purchase (i'm also going to purchase a new TV)?

My Devices:
  • 5.1 Polk Audio Surround Speakers
  • PS3
  • XBox 360
  • Apple TV (have it and can't use it, no HDMI on my TV or Receiver)
  • Wii
  • Comcast DVR
  • DirectTV (Possibly in the future)
  • iTunes Streaming from my PC (AppleTV might take care of that)
  • iPad, iPhone and iPods

Other Wish List:
Picture in Picture (do I need a TV with multiple HDMI inputs?)
Single remote for all of my devices (yeah, i know it may not happen)
Might be nice to operate from my iPhone/iPad

Thank you!!!!
Edited by mubai - 9/3/12 at 9:13am
post #2 of 31
Picture in picture is unlikely to happen either. Unless I am mistaken. Seems most mid to high end lcd s might have it, and fewer plasmas do. What is your budget? We need details.

butter and jelly please.
post #3 of 31
Thread Starter 
~$3500 for TV
<$1000 for Receiver

There's just so much stuff out there, that it's hard to figure out what's good and bad. What will last and what technology is a must have...

Thanks!!!
post #4 of 31
Probably denon or Yamaha. With your needs they still support more legacy connections than onkyo does. If you're lucky, you might be able to score a denon 4311 or a Yamaha 1010,2010 with $1000. I don't know much about pioneer as I haven't done much research on them since they just started using class d amps. Many people like them though. Onkyo 818 might be worth a look, but make to see if it support all your connection needs.

You getting a plasma or LCD? I think smasung higher end plasmas support PIP now. My 51d8000 has it though I will probably never ever use it as I don't watch any tv or sports anymore. I am not sure if Panasonic does, but they make good plasmas too.

butter and jelly please.
post #5 of 31
Your setup is very similar to mine. Same brand of speakers, same receiver brand and almost everything else, even to the fact that I haven't upgraded in a while and looking to do it now.

Picture in picture is annoying. It was a factor when I got my tv, used it once. Seriously. It's big enough for it, 58 inch but we just never use it. Your budget for tv is big time. These days, 60 inch LCD are less than $1500. As far as receiver, you can definitely do a 2011 model on clearance for less than $400. It will be able to power everything you have, and with Apple TV, you are good for a long time. I'm looking at Denon 1913 for $299, Onkyo 719 for $249, plenty of power and inputs. Just a thought.
post #6 of 31
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Originally Posted by pukemon View Post

they still support more legacy connections

Hey pukemon, thanks for the info! What does the above comment mean? I would move to hdmi for all of my connections and all or most of them support hdmi.
post #7 of 31
The term "legacy" usually refers to dated connections (eg. composite video used by Wii and possibly component video used by xBox if non-HDMI model). The Wii can be upconverted to HDMI however by using a Wii2HDMI. And any of the Logitech Harmony remotes can be used to likely control all of your source devices, AVR, and TV, while a networking model will generally allow you to control the AVR via a smart phone from anywhere you have access to the WiFi router in the house. Look for clearance sales on last year's models to include the Denon 1912 and 2112CI.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 9/3/12 at 12:01pm
post #8 of 31
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Originally Posted by pukemon View Post

You getting a plasma or LCD?

Probably LCD. The black levels are pretty good nowadays compared to plasma, so I think I will go with the LCD. I'm going to get a 65", 70" or 80" TV. Although, I definitely have more options at 65".
post #9 of 31
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Having a hard time finding this one: Denon 1912CI. Any links?
post #10 of 31
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Originally Posted by tenwood View Post

I'm looking at Denon 1913 for $299, Onkyo 719 for $249, plenty of power and inputs. Just a thought.

Hey thanks for this information. Do you have links for the two models you mentioned at those prices?

Thanks!
post #11 of 31
Thread Starter 
If you have AppleTV, I assume Apple Airplay is redundant. Correct?
post #12 of 31
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Originally Posted by mubai View Post

Having a hard time finding this one: Denon 1912CI. Any links?

Should have been 1912. Give Electronics Expo or AVS Sales a "call".
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Originally Posted by mubai View Post

If you have AppleTV, I assume Apple Airplay is redundant. Correct?

Correct.
post #13 of 31
http://www.frys.com/product/6592273?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

For the Onkyo NR 709. The Denon is available today at Fry's store for $299.
post #14 of 31
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Originally Posted by tenwood View Post

http://www.frys.com/product/6592273?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

For the Onkyo NR 709. The Denon is available today at Fry's store for $299.

OK, I really like the features of the NR 709 and power output. I feel like it meets all of my needs (# of HDMI inputs, 3D pass-thru, iPhone remote, ethernet) . Is there anything the Onkyo 717 would add to my setup that I wouldn't get from 709? I really can't beat the $249 price tag, considering I was willing to go up 4x that.
post #15 of 31
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Damn, just realized that it's in store pickup only for most of them. I live in PA. Anyone willing to pick it up and ship it to me? smile.gif
post #16 of 31
Actually the 717 uses the lowest version of Audyssey 2EQ which cannot EQ the sub.
post #17 of 31
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Originally Posted by mubai View Post

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Originally Posted by tenwood View Post

http://www.frys.com/product/6592273?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

For the Onkyo NR 709. The Denon is available today at Fry's store for $299.

OK, I really like the features of the NR 709 and power output. I feel like it meets all of my needs (# of HDMI inputs, 3D pass-thru, iPhone remote, ethernet) . Is there anything the Onkyo 717 would add to my setup that I wouldn't get from 709? I really can't beat the $249 price tag, considering I was willing to go up 4x that.

If you were/are willing to go 4x that why you messing with that? Go for the 818 at least. Or denon 3312/13.

butter and jelly please.
post #18 of 31
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Originally Posted by pukemon View Post

If you were/are willing to go 4x that why you messing with that? Go for the 818 at least. Or denon 3312/13.
butter and jelly please.

The less expensive one meets my needs. I don't see the value in spending more. I can up my budget on the TV as well.biggrin.gif:
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Originally Posted by tenwood View Post

http://www.frys.com/product/6592273?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

For the Onkyo NR 709. The Denon is available today at Fry's store for $299.

Called frys it's a bit of a marketing scam. The sales rep said those receivers on sale at stores usually only has 1 available at 1 of their stores. mad.gif
post #19 of 31
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Originally Posted by mubai View Post

Damn, just realized that it's in store pickup only for most of them. I live in PA. Anyone willing to pick it up and ship it to me? smile.gif

They're arent any available. They've been out of stock since the new Onkyo receivers came out a few months ago. You'd be extremely lucky to find one.

I checked all stores within 100 mile radius of SF and they're aren't any. Same for SoCal.

If you really feel this receiver meets all your needs you can get one for $450 here.
http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKTXNR709/Onkyo-TX-NR709-7.2-Channel-3-D-Ready-Network-A/V-Receiver/1.html
post #20 of 31
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Originally Posted by mubai View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by pukemon View Post

If you were/are willing to go 4x that why you messing with that? Go for the 818 at least. Or denon 3312/13.
butter and jelly please.

The less expensive one meets my needs. I don't see the value in spending more. I can up my budget on the TV as well.biggrin.gif:
Quote:
Originally Posted by tenwood View Post

http://www.frys.com/product/6592273?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

For the Onkyo NR 709. The Denon is available today at Fry's store for $299.

Called frys it's a bit of a marketing scam. The sales rep said those receivers on sale at stores usually only has 1 available at 1 of their stores. mad.gif

Trust me, and many people will agree. You get more if you spend more in a receiver. You can get a very nice TV well below your TV budget. For less than $3000 you can get a ~65" Samsung or panny top of the line plasma, or at least 60"+ plus on a LCD. Mid to high end even. I would at least try for a denon 3312/13 or a Yamaha 1010 and use rest for TV and still come out on top both ways.

butter and jelly please.
post #21 of 31
Thread Starter 
I bought the Denon 2312 open box at BB. Also the Panny VT50 65". TV arrives on Friday.

Thanks for all of the help!!!
post #22 of 31
Great. smile.gif

Be sure to review the Denon AVR-XX12 Owner's thread linked in my sig (posts #3-6) for helpful information as well as posting in that thread should you have any setup questions. Also as the unit is open box, the first thing you'll want to do is to reset the microprocessor (p. 144 OM).
post #23 of 31
i also bought the denon 2312ci its an open box from bestbuy but for the price you cant go wrong
now i am waiting for my speaker wires to get here so i can install everything
post #24 of 31
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Great. smile.gif
Be sure to review the Denon AVR-XX12 Owner's thread linked in my sig (posts #3-6) for helpful information as well as posting in that thread should you have any setup questions. Also as the unit is open box, the first thing you'll want to do is to reset the microprocessor (p. 144 OM).

Will do on the review and thanks for the resetting the microprocessor tip!

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Originally Posted by carsfreak88 View Post

i also bought the denon 2312ci its an open box from bestbuy but for the price you cant go wrong
now i am waiting for my speaker wires to get here so i can install everything

How much did you pay without tax?
post #25 of 31
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Will do on the review and thanks for the resetting the microprocessor tip!
How much did you pay without tax?
the price was $399 and the receiver looks brand new not even one scratch on it
what about you?
post #26 of 31
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the price was $399 and the receiver looks brand new not even one scratch on it
what about you?

Ahh, you beat me $449.tongue.gif Mine was the demo on the shelf so some dust and finger prints. I'll know more once it's plugged in, but at $399 or $449 you can't beat it. I bought the TV and got about $1000 off of list, so quite happy with my savings.
post #27 of 31
thats not bad at all i got friendly with the guy at my bestbuy my receiver came with no set up mic or the remote so the guy i know there opened a brand new 3312 they had in stock to get me the remote and the mic and all the paper work so it was a good deal and i hope he will be able to put a tv for me in the side on black friday
post #28 of 31
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Originally Posted by carsfreak88 View Post

thats not bad at all i got friendly with the guy at my bestbuy my receiver came with no set up mic or the remote so the guy i know there opened a brand new 3312 they had in stock to get me the remote and the mic and all the paper work so it was a good deal and i hope he will be able to put a tv for me in the side on black friday

Yeah, I had no remote for mine and he found some other Denon remote and gave it to me. There was another open box Denon with nothing besides the receiver for like $350, can't remember the model, but I passed on that one. I can remember that this one was a better model. I just ordered HDMI cables and had them overnighted, shipping cost more than the cables...lol, but still overall cheaper/better than getting them locally. Can't wait to watch some movies!!!
post #29 of 31
tell me about it i have everything ready all i am waiting for is some speaker wires from mono price i hope i get them before the weekend
btw what speakers are you planing to use with your system
post #30 of 31
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Originally Posted by carsfreak88 View Post

tell me about it i have everything ready all i am waiting for is some speaker wires from mono price i hope i get them before the weekend
btw what speakers are you planing to use with your system

I have Polk audio from 1999-2000 time frame. I dont know the models off hand but they still rock! Also got a free Sony sub from my bro-in-law. I got my Tv today and the HDMI cables arrived at 10am from mono price. TV is awesome!!!! biggrin.gif

Need to search the forums bc my receiver is not outputting audio and video to the TV. The FM tuner works though.

TV works fine with the same HDMI cable hooked up directly to the cable box.
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