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Oink, in case you haven't noticed it, the new forum software has a "Like" button you can click at the bottom of posts to signal your agreement. It's the little thumb to the left of "Multi."

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Oink, in case you haven't noticed it, the new forum software has a "Like" button you can click at the bottom of posts to signal your agreement. It's the little thumb to the left of "Multi."

Interesting but not quite the same. wink.gif
post #33 of 99
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All great comments - but let me jog everyone's memory as to the other films in contention.
Here is the list of Saturn Awards (who supposedly look out for our interests in the realm of sci-fi) nominees and winners since 2001.
Like the Academy Awards I disagree with many of the winners listed and some years were weak competition-wise. You will notice District 9 was not nominated in 2009.
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2009
Avatar - Winner
The Book of Eli
Knowing
Moon
Star Trek
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
. . .

I agree that District 9 being passed over for a Saturn Award nomination for 2009 was an outrage without more. When I consider, though, that Michael Bay's awful Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, starring that noted thespian, Shia LaBeouf, was nominated instead, I want to throw up in a wastebasket. The Book of Eli and Wolverine weren't much better but contemplating them at least didn't cause gastric distress,
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Oink, in case you haven't noticed it, the new forum software has a "Like" button you can click at the bottom of posts to signal your agreement. It's the little thumb to the left of "Multi."

Like oink, I still prefer the old "+1!" to indicate my strong agreement with another poster's comment. I guess I'm just old-fashioned.smile.gif
post #35 of 99
I'm a big fan of Sunshine and have the BD. But I played it for friends who are usually SF fans they didn't like it. I thought it presented some deep issues in the storyline. Of course I also became a fan of John Murphy's "Adagio in D Minor" too which has been reused a lot places as especially in trailers for other films.
http://www.johnmurphyofficial.com/tunesbox_1.html

Very simple, elegant piece with a lot of emotional depth (sort of Vaughn Williams like).
post #36 of 99
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I'm a big fan of Sunshine and have the BD. But I played it for friends who are usually SF fans they didn't like it. I thought it presented some deep issues in the storyline. Of course I also became a fan of John Murphy's "Adagio in D Minor" too which has been reused a lot places as especially in trailers for other films.
http://www.johnmurphyofficial.com/tunesbox_1.html
Very simple, elegant piece with a lot of emotional depth (sort of Vaughn Williams like).

Thanks! I picked up the soundtrack after I saw Sunshine.
post #37 of 99
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Sadly, any organization that would nominate both Lara Croft movies for "Best" anything has to be automatically discounted in my opinion. I don't care how weak the competition was in those years.

I'm scratching my head as how some of those even hit the science fiction genre. Just because a movie has one scene with aliens or technology, doesn't make it science fiction. Many of the comic movies are action adventure / fantasy, and not science fiction.
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Oink, in case you haven't noticed it, the new forum software has a "Like" button you can click at the bottom of posts to signal your agreement. It's the little thumb to the left of "Multi."
I wasn't aware...thanx.smile.gif

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Like oink, I still prefer the old "+1!" to indicate my strong agreement with another poster's comment. I guess I'm just old-fashioned.smile.gif
Maybe us old guys can't learn new tricks?biggrin.gif

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I'm scratching my head as how some of those even hit the science fiction genre. Just because a movie has one scene with aliens or technology, doesn't make it science fiction. Many of the comic movies are action adventure / fantasy, and not science fiction.
The term "science fiction" does get liberally used quite a bit these days.
IRRC, awhile back, we defined the term more concisely, with sub-genres, etc.....
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Interesting but not quite the same. wink.gif
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Thanks! I picked up the soundtrack after I saw Sunshine.
You were lucky then because due to some licensing snags the soundtrack CD wasn't release until much later and then only a limited edition. Fortunately Murphy has put his works on his site for listening.
post #41 of 99
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You were lucky then because due to some licensing snags the soundtrack CD wasn't release until much later and then only a limited edition. Fortunately Murphy has put his works on his site for listening.

Well.... I didn't say exactly how I got it. wink.gif
post #42 of 99
Pinbacker wasn't just an allegorical character, the movie also needed a human obstacle as well as natural obstacles for the sake of drama, so it needed an antagonist. The human drama could not sustain the movie past the point of Pinbacker's introduction because the crew, in spite of their quarrels, just got along too well for their friction to reach a climactic crises. The problem is, the antagonist here is brought in ham-handedly and does not come about naturally at all. They should have found a way to make one or more of the existing crew members antagonistic, it could have had more weight emotionally, plus it wouldn't be as ridiculous and one-dimentional as the skinless monster of Pinbacker stalking the crew members like a slasher movie. It was a big missed opportunity in an otherwise excellent hard SF movie. The proper way to make a science-fiction rational-vs-irrational allegory is The Mist.
post #43 of 99
Sorry to nitpick, but what's the point of discussing "the best sci-fi flick of the century" when "the century" is less than 12 years old?
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Sorry to nitpick, but what's the point of discussing "the best sci-fi flick of the century" when "the century" is less than 12 years old?

If you read the first post you will note that the thread was inspired by a story in Total Film magazine. My take on the story is that there has been a general dearth of great sci-fi movies so far this century. Agree or disagree that's the theme of the story.

There is little disagreement that Sunshine is a flawed movie and could have been a great film like 2001 with the right scripting. But from the list of sci-fi movies produced so far in this century I would still place Sunshine at the top or near the top of my personal list.
post #45 of 99
As far as Sunshine goes, I could never buy the premise that there would be anything any interstellar culture could do that would affect a star in any way whatsoever. Then it turned into Event Horizon.

Better certainly were Children of Men (one of the best dystopian/sci-films of all time IMHO), Moon, Source Code, A.I. Artificial Intelligence , District 9 and Never Let Me Go; and of the frothier, more comic-book-y sort of tilms, X2, Serenity, Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones, and Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow .

There are some pretty sorry titles on that list, too.
post #46 of 99
Thread Starter 
I'm glad you like Children of Men, so do I. But I don't own it nor any of the others on your list with the exception of District 9 - ownership is one my acid tests. Dystopian films as a rule don't rank at the top of my personal list.
post #47 of 99
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Not the best for me. I prefer to choose The Matrix as best. This movie comes with Si-fi and goes with horror

The Matrix was 1999. If we're sticking to this century...

Unless you mean the trilogy as a whole.
post #48 of 99
I'll credit Sunshine for allowing me to think more of Chris Evans. I thought he played the role well.
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I'll credit Sunshine for allowing me to think more of Chris Evans. I thought he played the role well.

Wow, yeah... me too. Sunshine and Street Kings did for me.
post #50 of 99
Looking over his filmography, the only of Danny Boyle's movies that I like unreservedly are 28 Days Later and Millions. The rest of his films generally have good ideas but flawed execution.
post #51 of 99
The opening ceremony for the 2012 Olympics of Boyle's was so out there that I think it qualifies as a memorable thingie.
post #52 of 99
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Originally Posted by Scott Simonian View Post

Well.... I didn't say exactly how I got it. wink.gif

No, there was eventually a CD but it was apparently a limited edition. I recall I think on IMDB people asking where the soundtrack was an there was info about it being hung up over licensing issues. If you had the CD it might be worth far more than you paid for it.
post #53 of 99
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No, there was eventually a CD but it was apparently a limited edition. I recall I think on IMDB people asking where the soundtrack was an there was info about it being hung up over licensing issues. If you had the CD it might be worth far more than you paid for it.

I am familiar with the situation so it took me some "digging" to "find" it. tongue.gif
post #54 of 99
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Looking over his filmography, the only of Danny Boyle's movies that I like unreservedly are 28 Days Later and Millions. The rest of his films generally have good ideas but flawed execution.
Haven't seen Millions.
I like 28 Days Later and Slumdog, without reservations, but Trainspotting is his masterpiece.
post #55 of 99
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Haven't seen Millions.
I like 28 Days Later and Slumdog, without reservations, but Trainspotting is his masterpiece.

I have Slumdog in my BD collection and you know how selective that is. I rest my case.smile.gif I really like 28 Days Later, too, and Trainspotting is one of my all time favorite films. I get something new from Trainspotting every time I watch it. Sunshine is all right. It is intriguingly written and has a strong ensemble cast, including the always wonderful Mark Strong, but I don't think it is in a class with some of Boyle's other work.
post #56 of 99
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Agree or disagree, one of my favorite space films.
Original question posted on the Total Film website:
http://www.totalfilm.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17742


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post #57 of 99
I do like Sunshine but it was a bit too similar to a b-flick called Solar Crisis, IMO.
Sunshine is way better in all departments but again I made the connection to SC and that kind of spoiled it.
It's probably just me wink.giftongue.gif

I would probably pick The Matrix but Sunshine is definately one of the better ones.
post #58 of 99
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Originally Posted by Fredrik View Post

I would probably pick The Matrix .
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The Matrix was 1999. If we're sticking to this century...
Unless you mean the trilogy as a whole.

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post #59 of 99
Haha, sorry for not reading your earlier post, I guess I was wrong on the correct century there tongue.gifsmile.gif

I'll vote for Inception then.
post #60 of 99
In case anyone is interested, this BD is $8.99 on Amazon right now.
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