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post #151 of 257
It only has wireless there is no subwoofer output jack, you have to use their adapter if you want to use your HSU. I'm sure for this market you are a very small percentage of people who will use a different subwoofer than the one supplied. So I don't think Yamaha found a need to put in a subwoofer jack.
post #152 of 257
I am not certain but the wording of the description of that adapter indicates that the subwoofer would need to be another Yamaha product and/or support yAired technology.
post #153 of 257
Hi All,

I didn't want to create a separate thread since there is healthy discussion here. Does anyone have experience comparing the 4300/3300 to the prior models ysp-4100 or ysp-5100?

Some of the differences I have gathered from the specs are:
  • 4100/5100 are taller, but thinner than the 4300/3300.
  • 4100/5100 have quite a few more mini drivers than the 4300/3300.
  • 4100/5100 are pricier
  • 4100/5100 use 1/8" larger mini drivers
  • 4300/3300 come with a wireless sub
  • 4100/5100 comes with wireless sub adapter (BYO Sub)
  • 5100 system is 120W vs 194W of the newer models (Sub excluded)
  • 5100/4100 has 4.5" woofers, 4300/3300 have 2.5" woofers

So this all great, but my primary concern is which sounds the best, has anyone compared them?
I'm presently leaning towards the older models because I have a home built sub I wish to use, but I'm willing to forsake that if the newer units offer a significant overall upper frequency superiority.
post #154 of 257
Send me the ysp-4300, ysp-4100 and ysp-5100; and I'll let you know wink.gif

I think you would be hard pressed to even find these in a store to demo.
post #155 of 257
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Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post

Send me the ysp-4300, ysp-4100 and ysp-5100; and I'll let you know wink.gif

I think you would be hard pressed to even find these in a store to demo.

I can't even find 1 of them where I live. I figure someone here has "upgraded" or at least owned one and got to try the other. We'll see.
post #156 of 257
On my setup, a u-verse STB is connected to the YSP-3300 HDMI1 input, and a Sharp Elite TV is connected to the YSP-3300 HDMI (ARC) output.

When the input on the TV is switched from HDMI1 (the YSP-3300) to antenna (broadcast), the YSP-3300 front panel display automatically changes from "HDMI1" to "TV-ARC".

Of course, this is after going through the TV and sound projector menus to enable ARC.

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Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post

New hiccup. I just spent about 30 minutes messing with the controls on the TV and the Soundbar.

This is my setup:

DISH Hopper ---> Yamaha RX-A1000 ---> Yamaha YSP-3300 ---> Panasonic 65VT50
LG Blu-Ray ---^

When I want to watch a signal directly from the Panasonic (ie VUDU on the Internet), I get no sound out of the YSP Speakers. I tried turning off the TV speakers and setting the TV to "Home Theater" Speakers, no luck.

So now I need to run the additional Optical Output from the TV to the Speakers anyway.

Do you see any why around this? Is the ARC HDMI supposed to be bi-directional?
post #157 of 257
Thread Starter 
Thx about the subwoofer question!
Got it!
post #158 of 257
I like the 4100/5100 series better than the 3300/4300. I think they tweaked the 3300/4300 for better auto calibration. But, if you tweak the 4100/5100 you can get much better results plus you can easily pair it with a nicer sub. I think the tall size and cost of the 4100/5100 has not made them as popular especially for TVs on stands. Some of them are tall enough to block bottom of the TV screen.
post #159 of 257
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Originally Posted by BobL View Post

I like the 4100/5100 series better than the 3300/4300. I think they tweaked the 3300/4300 for better auto calibration. But, if you tweak the 4100/5100 you can get much better results plus you can easily pair it with a nicer sub. I think the tall size and cost of the 4100/5100 has not made them as popular especially for TVs on stands. Some of them are tall enough to block bottom of the TV screen.

Interesting, thanks. I agree, the height of the 4100/5100 likely inhibits their sales to a degree. For me its mostly a non-factor as I plan to wall mount the unit. I've noticed the 4300 keeps being available for under $1200, I wish I could find a similar deal on a 5100/4100.
post #160 of 257
OK, after some more playing with then system, it looks like I got the ARC working. Audio from the TV will play on the 3300. Turning the TV OFF also turns OFF the 3300, but the 3300 does not turn ON with the TV.

The first HDMI cable I ran between the TV and the 3300 appears to be non 1.4. I can't read the writing on the cable because it was covered in the woven mesh.

Here are photos of the Port Savers I purchased through MonoPrice. With these connectors the 3300 will sit right up against the wall (then the only problem is the mic input for the system tuning).





post #161 of 257
FWIW,

My YSP-3300, in the setup described in my previous post, turns and and off with the TV.

The 3300 also cycles on and off correctly when driving a Sony XBR HX929.
post #162 of 257
Just curious, what drove you guys to the 3300 over the the 4100?
post #163 of 257
In my case the $950 sale price.

I was on the fence about the Atlantic Technology H-PAS Powerbar 235
post #164 of 257
The 3300 is $947 shipped at Buy.com again, also 4 available at their Ebay site for the same price.
post #165 of 257
Ditto on the price, and it's much better looking than the 4100 and 5100
post #166 of 257
post #167 of 257
better hurry if anyone else wants one. I got the first of the 4 available YSP-4300s as well at 1136.99 on the rakuten.com and their ebay seller website pages...an hour later there's only one left.

i have an unopened YSP-3300 i am now going to return (it arrived today via UPS) that I got from them. if anyone wants it instead lemme know and I can send it for that + shipping via Paypal. ohterwise it goes back this weekend via RMA.
post #168 of 257
I ordered mine this morning at that price. Hopefully they still have some. Update. Since I had never ordered anything from that website before my credit card would not be accepted. By the time I got it fixed, they were sold out at that price. So new soundbar for me.
Edited by tigercat74 - 3/9/13 at 8:01am
post #169 of 257
Here is my Yamaha YSP-4300 with my Samsung UN60ES7500 on a wall unit IMG_20130309_140643.jpg 915k .jpg file
post #170 of 257
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Originally Posted by Kempsterx5 View Post

Here is my Yamaha YSP-4300 with my Samsung UN60ES7500 on a wall unit IMG_20130309_140643.jpg 915k .jpg file
post #171 of 257
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post #172 of 257
I did end up getting a 4300 at the price you guys mentioned last week. It works great except the subwoofer does lose connection and then takes some time to reconnect. Do you guys think my wireless router is causing this problem? I have DSL modem that has built in wireless. Could this be the problem? I saw where someone got an Airport Express and this fixed his problem. Would this be a good option for me. Plus the router is in a different room then the subwoofer. Thanks in advance.
post #173 of 257
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Originally Posted by tigercat74 View Post

I did end up getting a 4300 at the price you guys mentioned last week. It works great except the subwoofer does lose connection and then takes some time to reconnect. Do you guys think my wireless router is causing this problem? I have DSL modem that has built in wireless. Could this be the problem? I saw where someone got an Airport Express and this fixed his problem. Would this be a good option for me. Plus the router is in a different room then the subwoofer. Thanks in advance.
Certain Routers have known to cause problems. I think since yours is so far away i dont think that would be it. I do run a Apple Airport extreme and have no problems.
post #174 of 257
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Originally Posted by Glenee View Post

Certain Routers have known to cause problems. I think since yours is so far away i dont think that would be it. I do run a Apple Airport extreme and have no problems.

Thanks for your answer. I have not had any problems with it today,
post #175 of 257
I too have been having issues with my wireless sub. It will lose connection and take a while to reconnect. Problem is that I am getting random "pops" and "clicks" from the sub. It can get super annoying.
I have resorted to disconnecting it and making it reconnect. It will get a clean connection and not have the pops and clicks.

I am wondering if my wireless router is contributing to channel interference. It is a Linksys 4300 that is in the same room as the YSP 4300.

Anyone know what channel/frequency the wireless sub works on?

I suppose I can try and pick up an Airport if that is what has fixed it for others, although I'd rather not shell out more cash.
post #176 of 257
Try changing the access code on the back of the subwoofer and in the setup menu. I switched mine to C3 and have had no problem with disconnect since then.
post #177 of 257
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Originally Posted by pyrosee View Post

I too have been having issues with my wireless sub. It will lose connection and take a while to reconnect. Problem is that I am getting random "pops" and "clicks" from the sub. It can get super annoying.
I have resorted to disconnecting it and making it reconnect. It will get a clean connection and not have the pops and clicks.

I am wondering if my wireless router is contributing to channel interference. It is a Linksys 4300 that is in the same room as the YSP 4300.

Anyone know what channel/frequency the wireless sub works on?

I suppose I can try and pick up an Airport if that is what has fixed it for others, although I'd rather not shell out more cash.

I too have heard those very same 'pops' and 'clicks' but what I'm noticing is that, when I use my soundbar my wireless devices like iPad, iPhone and laptop cannot connect to the net anymore. I assume that it has something to do with both the WiFi and the wireless subwoofer both using the 2.4GHz band to transmit their respective signals. The only way I can use my wireless devices, would be to switch off the soundbar and then reboot the router. It gets annoying quickly but it was a workaround for now.mad.gif

I've ordered a dual band Linksys 3700 router and I plan on setting it up so that the TV and XBox will use a wired setup while the wireless devices use the 5GHz band. I hope this will work, I'll soon find out. But I'm not sure if it'll solve the intermittent sounds/connectivity issues for the subwoofer. I really don't want to buy an Airport router. Does anyone have the same issues with a Linksys router? mad.gif
post #178 of 257
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Originally Posted by tigercat74 View Post

Try changing the access code on the back of the subwoofer and in the setup menu. I switched mine to C3 and have had no problem with disconnect since then.

I will give this a shot this evening and see if it helps.
post #179 of 257
FWIW, my LinkSys E2000 wireless router is in a different room from my YSP-3300, separated by two walls. The E2000 is set to N mode on the 2.4 GHz band.

I did not change the yamaha wireless access code from the factory setting. I have never detected any disconnects with the wireless sub, which is located about 6 feet from the right end of the sound projector.

If your wireless router permits adjustment of transmit power, that might be worth experimenting with too.
post #180 of 257
The 4300 is listed on Rakuten.com for $1136.99 again... snatch it up!
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